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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:21 PM
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Neocons for Ahmadinejad
This is why the neocons are doing everything they can to undermine President Obama. It's because he's succeeding in helping guide our world onto a path less likely riddled with endless wars, hatred and oppression of the people.

And for that, it's all-out neocon rage.



Again, thanks to Andrew Sullivan for the outstanding coverage of the revolution.



17 Jun 2009 01:09 pm
Neocons For Ahmadinejad

Danielle Pletka insists she doesn't want the coup to succeed, she's just making "a sad observation about reality." Now? As the revolt reaches a critical phase? Instead of waiting to see what might happen? Here she pronounces the resistance over:

The uprising is little more than a symbolic protest, crushed by the elite Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.


She could write that yesterday? Pletka is a hard-right neocon, very close to the Kagans, and a former aide to Jesse Helms. Her support for Ahmadinejad is the same as Daniel Pipes' and the Mossad's. What we're seeing is how much of the neocon agenda really was about freedom. I have long since stopped believing that, having observed them closely for the past few years. They are about warfare against Israel's perceived enemies, and extending US hegemony to eclipse any rival regional or global power. That is the prism through which you have to watch their every statement. But why is the New York Times giving a platform at this moment to people who got the Iraq war so terribly wrong? Are there no consequences for total neoconservative failure?




17 Jun 2009 10:41 am
The Mossad Wants Ahmadinejad

Unbelievable quote from Meir Dagan:

"The reality in Iran is not going to change because of the elections. The world and we already know Ahmadinejad. If the reformist candidate Mousavi had won, Israel would have had a more serious problem because it would need to explain to the world the danger of the Iranian threat, since Mousavi is perceived internationally arena as a moderate element...It is important to remember that he is the one who began Iran's nuclear program when he was prime minister."



I have nothing to add to Jeffrey's humane comments.




17 Jun 2009 03:05 pm
Will The Neocons Never Learn?

Here's Wehner:

How President Obama deals with this matter — whether he takes actions that show tangible support for the forces of liberation or whether he sits passively by as events unfold, nervous to offend cruel regimes — will tell us a lot about him and his core commitments.



Oh, yes, obviously Obama wants the uprising to fail. Jesus, these people are shameless.




Eric Cantor pipes up today:


AFP/Getty Images/File


June 17, 2009

WASHINGTON (AFP) – A top Republican US lawmaker called Wednesday for Congress to pass tough new sanctions targeting Iran and condemned Tehran's crackdown on post-election protests as "a horrible human tragedy."

"We are witnessing, in Iran, a horrible human tragedy. You've got a government there that has been seen crushing its people in the streets of Tehran," Republican Representative Eric Cantor told AFP.
"How do you expect to trust, to engage with, a regime like that? How could we ever tolerate a regime like that having nuclear weapons?" said Cantor, the number two Republican in the House of Representatives.

Cantor said the US Congress should quickly pass legislation aimed at choking off Iran's gasoline imports and foreign investments in its energy sector to break its defiance of global demands to freeze its suspect nuclear program.

.....

"It's very clear that democracy in Iran is somewhat of a mystery and that clearly the clerics in that country are the ones that control the levers of power. And our policy vis-a-vis Iran needs to reflect that reality," he said.
Cantor also said the Obama administration had not sufficiently criticized the official crackdown on protests by Mousavi supporters.
"Their silence on the issue of human rights violations is very troubling to me. America has a moral responsibility to stand up for human rights around the world and to condemn the abuses that are occurring in Tehran today," he said.

.....



A mystery, Eric? Why don't you try educating yourself?




Joe Klein writes in McCain Unhinged:

June 16, 2009

For two years now, John McCain has been entirely consistent on Iran: every last statement he's made--at least, those that I've seen--has been (a) fabulously uninformed and (b) dangerously bellicose. He's still at it, apparently. There is no question that President Obama's more prudent path is the correct one right now. There is also no question that the neoconservatives are trying to gin up this situation into an excuse for not engaging with the Iranian government in the near future--and also as a rationale for their dearest, looniest dream, war with Iran.

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17 Jun 2009 12:18 pm
Yes They Can

A reader writes:

My wife's grandmother, uncle and aunt still live in Tehran and she spoke to them on Monday - they said that the atmosphere at the polling booth on Friday was unlike any other election since the Whereistheirvote revolution and hope for some real change soon. For what it's worth, not one of them thinks Obama should be saying anything more than he has - that's partly what made the Shah so hated. I would also say that anyone who doesn't think that Obama's No Ruz message and his speech in Cairo didn't contribute at least something to this uprising doesn't know any Iranians - the feeling of hope that Obama gave to Americans and people all over the world (rightly or wrongly…) has trickled down to Iranians. On a human level, as well, everyone knows how far a little respect can go.

Also for what it's worth, anybody who thinks that this is going to blow over soon should remember the revolution where exactly the same thing was said about the protestors against the Shah. Not saying it's the same thing but Iranians have staying power and have a talent for revisiting the same grievances for a long time ..... .


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And so do we, here in America.





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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 04:15 PM
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1. Did you forget the $400 million to destabilize the Iranian government?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 04:35 PM
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2. Notice how young Iranians who are opposed to Ahmadinejad...

are often flashing the peace sign? This is what neocons DON'T want to see.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:52 PM
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3. They see the "myths" that they "made" failing and disappearing. So they are desperate.
Edited on Wed Jun-17-09 09:54 PM by applegrove
People are stepping out of the narrative neocons had running for America and stepping into Obama's much brighter much more hopeful one.
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