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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 10:37 AM
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organic tobacco


its a wonder that some farmers aren't growing organic tobacco.

smokers wouldn't inhale all the crap cig. companies put in their cigs. would only inhale tobacco and the paper's smoke.

growing tobacco usually takes a lot of pesticide. so organic would have to work around that.

but then, perhaps, the cig companies would probably burn down any organic farmer's drying barns.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 10:40 AM
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1. American Spirit has an organic tobacco.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 10:46 AM
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3. thanks for the link but the black background with black text was


really hard to read. I gave up.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 12:15 PM
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15. Just do a search - American Spirit Organic. They have an age pop-up
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 12:15 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
at American Spirit and if you don't supply your age, they won't let you view the site.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 10:44 AM
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2. That's great. If you smoke organic tobacco, at least you'll die healthy.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 10:47 AM
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4. I'm not advocating smoking tobacco just wondering why no organic


for smokers. it surly would be better without all the additives.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:04 AM
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7. The organic heirloom tobacco
gets sold to pipe tobacco sellers.
$700-1000 per pound I am told.
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eddieb2 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:48 AM
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13. You can get pot
cheaper then that.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:04 AM
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8. They have organic tobacco, but it's not common
Tobacco's got two big problems that make it hard to be organic:

Problem one is it pulls all sorts of crap out of the ground. If there's any arsenic in your soil--and most soil has it naturally--tobacco will pick it up. Last I checked, Organic certification frowns on arsenic in your crop.

The other problem is it produces buds called suckers, which "suck" all the production out of the tobacco. You've got to get rid of them; if you don't use chemicals you have to go out in the field and sucker the plants by hand. It is extremely labor intensive, which would make this tobacco really expensive.

In Barbarians at the Gate, they discussed one of RJR Nabisco's marketing blunders, an all-natural cigarette called Real. (This was in the 1970s.) It didn't do well. The real market is in "additive free" cigarettes--which are just tobacco and paper. RJR's Winston brand is additive-free now, and sales are up.

Another problem with an "organic" cigarette should be obvious to all: trying to mitigate harm in cigarettes by removing the additives--mostly flavorings--is hard to justify when the most harmful part of the cigarette is the tobacco itself.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:18 AM
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10. flavorings are not the most additives, the other crap is


all the plants are cropped/topped by hand. I doubt they have created a machine that can do this.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 10:57 AM
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5. organic rat poison is also very good, or so I hear. nt
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:02 AM
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6. your point is?
nt
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:06 AM
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9. I'll take oxymorons for $200.
Don Pardo, tell him what he's won!
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 12:20 PM
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16. except it's not an oxymoron
"Other than that, great point!"
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:45 AM
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11. I'm curious as to whether organic tobacco causes all the problems
that treated tobacco does.

I love the smell of pipe smoke. I don't miss cigarettes at all, but Pipies never bothered me.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:48 AM
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12. I am growing some organic tobacco in my back yard right now.
Just for the hell of it.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:52 AM
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14. my father did too
nt
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 12:48 PM
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17. Heirloom seeds?
If so,start seedbanking them.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:09 PM
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19. yes I have 3 different kinds.
Got them from a heirloom seed company in Kentucky
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 12:54 PM
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18. Drawing smoke, organically generated or not, into ones lungs
IS NOT HEALTHY!
But hey! I got organic lung cancer!
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