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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:02 AM
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Why doesn't anyone say what Limbaugh really is. He's just a shock jock.
He's not a politician.

He's a shock jock exactly like Howard Stern.

He aims in a different direction but does the exact same thing.

He will always push a discussion into controversial and offensive extremes because that's what draws in an audience.

He doesn't do it because he believes it, he does it because it keeps his numbers up and makes him rich.

Period.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:04 AM
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1. He can thank MSNBC for all the publicity to.
They talk about him more than he talks about himself.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:04 AM
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2. Not exactly, he is in the same category as Father Coughlin
read on Father Coughlin
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:05 AM
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3. The African Radio hosts were shock jocks too....
The Nazi Radio hosts were shock jocks too.....in the beginning....

until they all tapped into an under current of anger and hate......

They can hide behind the guise that they may not believe a thing they say and they are only doing it for ratings....but with those increased ratings come egomania, narcisissm and a greed to keep feeding the frenzy.....

We can write them off and ignore them at our own peril.....
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:06 AM
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4. He's never said he wasn't. He has said he's only an entertainer.
Now it's time to get his kool-aid drinking ditto-heads to look at him for what he is.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:07 AM
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5. There's another dimension to FatFuck, though,
that's lacking in Howard Stern.

Howard doesn't give a rat's ass - besides the usual ratings worries - who believes what he says. He doesn't say anything that would make people change what they believe or try to give them information about things going on in the world.

While I can't take but a few minutes of Howard Stern, I applaud his readiness to go after the far limits of free speech, and I always have. People like Stern keep us honest in terms of our commitment to the First Amendment.

But, Rush wants to convert. He wants people to take up what he says as gospel truth. He doesn't do "shock jock" - he proselytizes, and he craves followers, in spite of all his disavowals. He wants to be god.

It doesn't matter whether or not he believes what he says - Rush and Howard are the same there - but it does matter to Rush that his listeners believe it. I doubt Howard gives a second thought to who believes him just as long as he's in the spotlight.

Otherwise, you're on to something, but Rush is dangerous, and Howard is entertainment ...........................
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DatManFromNawlins Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:49 AM
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8. Limbaugh only wants to convert because conversion = ratings = $$$$$
He really doesn't give a shit what anybody in the Republican party actually thinks, which is why he ripped on McCain so much before McCain became the nominee.

Limbaugh is looking for 2 types of individuals: those who have lived a secure life pretty much devoid of the difficulties that others face... the soccer mom and the company guy... as well as those who have right-leaning tendencies who don't have a lot and are looking to make sure nobody takes what they have away from them, and screw the details.

What both parties have done very well is polarize the public. Force them to choose a side. And once they've chosen a side, proselytize until they become true believers in the ONE TRUE WAY. So instead of focusing on issues that really matter, we get them buried under philosophical bullshit because nobody is willing to compromise so long as it is an emotional kiillswitch. The lack of a true 3rd political party gives people like Limbaugh the psychological ammunition he needs to make it an us vs. them argument. I personally don't believe that Limbaugh is any kind of social conservative at all, but he'll play one if it means an extra $30 million in his contract.

Howard Stern is a giant fucking douchebag who engages in pushing the limits of decency, not free speech. There is nothing Stern has said or will ever say that provokes even a moment of thought. He an insecure juvenile prick trapped in a 50+ year old body, and he wouldn't give a shit about free speech if it weren't directly related to his source of income.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:24 PM
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12. Yep, I wholeheartedly agree. This is why he's dangerous....
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 12:25 PM by OneGrassRoot
same for O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, etc.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:18 AM
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6. He is more clown than shock jock.
But you point is well taken.

The problem is that supposedly reputable journalists **report** what he says as though it were NEWS.

Whenever I hear, "Rush Limbaugh said...," on a news program, I want to ask, "And what does Krusty think about issue X ?"
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ddiver Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:07 AM
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7. He's a shock jock. Done.
I have never given him any weight at all.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 06:15 AM
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9. he is a paid propagandist.
period.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 07:20 AM
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10. absolutely right
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:22 PM
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11. Yeah, he's kinda that too. So he's got two periods to his name.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:31 PM
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13. You can't really know what his motives or personal ideology are
You can make an informed guess. You can base that on how he talks and what he talks about.

I contend that Stern is what he is and takes only his ratings seriously. His whole public persona is an act.

The Great Gasbag IS different. The indications are that he actually *does* believe what he says. He *does* want to be a leader and an opinion maker. Sure, ratings are part of it. But not all of it.

Are all the other right wing gasbags just entertainers, too? Look at them. I see lots of true believers.

Howard Stern trades in titties and fart jokes.

The others all trade in serious issues.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:36 PM
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14. Ahhh, because those who think so are trying to ignore this fried brain's pie hole?
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 12:36 PM by L. Coyote
:rofl:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:36 PM
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15. Howard Stern never egged anyone to use a gun and commit violence against another
nuff said.

BTW, about 5 years ago Stern was ragging on Limbaugh about the crap that Limbaugh was selling in his store. Stern, as a joke, bought one of Limbaugh's Office Chairs (EIB - Excellence in Broadcasting). Stern said he has found better office chairs for sale at Staples at a way lower price.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:37 PM
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16. You are wrong. Howard Stern doesn't disseminate Republican talking points. The Rightwing's ORGANIZED
from the top down.

The ignorance of so many DU'ers as to the extent of organization amongst the Rightwing is baffling.

Have you not paid attention?
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:05 PM
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17. RW Idiots respond to Limbaugh as a leader, but he still is actually just a shock jock.
It isn't Limbaugh that makes himself powerful.

It's the imbeciles that swallow the logs that exude from his anus like mouth.





(Yech. I'm too graphic even for myself here.)
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