Why can't late term abortion providers have clinics in very blue states?

[CTyankee]

I am wondering why Tiller and now Carhart are offering these services in places that are so dangerous to their lives?

New England, where I live, is very, very blue. I don't understand why these services can't be offered here for women from out of state. I know it is a distance for women in the midwest and that troubles me. But perhaps a fund could be set up for their travel here from the more dangerous states.

I guess I just don't understand why we allow them to defeat us there when we can win here. Since it endangers the lives of women and doctors, we should reconsider where these clinics are located. While I view this as an American tragedy, the greater tragedy is the loss of lives of those embroiled in this controversy...

[Ian David]

1. Abortion isn't in as high demand in The Blue States. n/t

[Gwendolyn]

5. Late term abortion is reserved for women whose health is at risk...

... or because the child will not be viable. That can happen to anyone, anywhere, more often than not to women who wanted their children. It doesn't really have anything to do with the whole birth control issue.

[Ian David]

6. That's a good point. n/t

[ejpoeta]

2. if you give into them, they will just keep going. that's why i was so disheartened

though i understood, about the family closing the clinic permanently. they win. and that will embolden them. they WILL come to you and do all that stuff where you are too. it doesn't matter. dr. barnet schlepian lived in Amherst NY. NY is a blue state. It doesn't matter where they have these clinics... these people will harass and terrorize.

[muntrv]

3. The pro-fetus terrorists exist in blue states too.

[hyphenate]

4. New England has clinics

and so do most urban areas that I can think of, but there is likely less necessity to have late-term abortions in such settings, as people have access to some of these services earlier in a pregnancy. Hell, there is a Planned Parenthood less than a mile from me, in fact. Whether education has a part or not, people don't have to worry about such clinics or providers.

Hmmmm....I would wonder how many women are in "charge" of their own bodies in strongly held repug areas--it would seem a great way to keep women from becoming "uppity" in these regions, by keeping them from having access to clinics like that, and then finding there is no contingency for problems later in the pregnancy.

We know that women are generally hated, or kept at arm's length, by those old "white men" who signed the "Partial Birth Abortion" law some years back. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these bastards decided to lock up any woman during her last trimester and forbade them from access to anything "subversive."

And no, I'm not forgetting all those women who approve of such schemes--they can do whatever they want, as long as they shut the fuck up about all the women who DON'T approve, or who don't have the ability to comprehend what's going on.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

7. Have guns, will travel.

If domestic terrorists like Roeder are determined to kill, state lines won't stop them. Law enforcement needs to step up and protect legal clinics, no matter where they are located.

[valerief]

8. The people in the dangerous states should be able to get abortions

in VA hospitals--and guarded by the U.S. military!

[ManiacJoe]

9. The VA cannot cover the costs of the vets.

You want to add more to the list?!?!?!

[valerief]

11. Sure they can! Cut back on the damn wars. nt

[marybourg]

10. In blue states, late term abortions are offered in university

hospitals, when needed, without fanfare. In the rabidly red states, hospitals have already been terrorized, and abortions have been down-sourced to clinics. There are funds to help women travel to clinics, but child care, discretion and time are problems also, for these women.

[CTyankee]

12. That is what I suspected. So what we need, if not federal marshals at clinics in

red states, is the ability for women to travel to university hospitals wherever is closest for their care. That is why I mentioned a fund set up to do this. I don't know how this would work, tho.

[marybourg]

14. Abortion funds national organization:

http://www.nnaf.org/

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13. Saddly... there is no safe haven...

Ever hear of John Salvi

[RamboLiberal]

15. You think the nutcases against abortion only live in Red States?

PA is a blue state though Carville was right about it is Alabama in the middle. Heard interview yesterday on Rachel with a nurse from an abortion clinic in Allentown PA. One of the nutjobs asked - I think of an escort - if they wanted to die by a bullet or a knife. She said her home, the doctor's home, other workers homes, plus the clinic are picketed by these nutjobs.

The nutjobs live in Blue states as well or they are wiling to travel to picket.

[Scout]

16. because women shouldn't have to leave their own state for medical care

how are the women in the red states going to find the blue state clinics? how are they going to afford the time off work, the travel, hotel stays, etc.

it's not "winning" if they murder the doctors and close the clinics except for the few in the blue states.

:shrug: