We need more spokesmen like Howard Dean out there talking about Health Care Reform

[Winterblues]

"If you like your current Insurance plan you can keep it just as it is. However if you want something different you will have a choice"...Why would anyone fight something like that? Why would Republicans deny Americans the right to choose the plan they want? That question needs to be asked over and over again... It is about "Choice"

[DJ13]

1. It is about "Choice"

Depends on the choice offered.

From the looks of it there wont be the kind of choice most want coming out of Congress.

[Winterblues]

3. From everything I have heard any Democrat say including Obama

The entire thing depends upon offering everyone a Choice of what type coverage they like. The only thing you won't have a choice of is whether you choose or not. You WILL have some sort of coverage, either Private or Public but you WILL be covered or face penalties.

[DJ13]

4. Its always "pay pay pay" or else

I really think that if they try to ram the Massachusetts health care model down our throats in the current economy its going to backfire.

[sandnsea]

5. Of course you will have to pay

Unless you are 150% of the poverty level, you will have to pay. Did you think you wouldn't have to pay for single payer??

[DJ13]

8. Did you think you wouldn't have to pay for single payer??

Yeah, but this is nowhere close to single payer.

This is a mandatory insurance coverage, which isnt what most people wanted when polled about reforming health care.

This is a welfare program for the health care industry.

[sandnsea]

11. The public option will be

It'll cover prescription drugs too which is more than Canada's does. Quit whining and call your Senators and demand open enrollment and the public option. Every one of us actually has to do something.

[Cleita]

2. Listening to Ed Schultz right now and he's on fire about the issue.

Says Ed Kennedy and Chris Dodd met at dinner to discuss the issue. Also, said that in the next few hours the Senate is going to release the first draft of their health care plan. If it's anything less than real reform jam your Senator's phone lines and fax machines about it. Don't bother to email. Apparently they don't read the email and since it's quiet it's easy to ignore. But phones ringing and fax machines rattling away should get their attention.

[leftstreet]

6. No, we need the politicians to SHUT UP and start LISTENING to US

and not the medical industrial complex.

But they didn't want US at the table, so now they're out there telling us what's good for us.

pffft

[madfloridian]

7. Many at DU now have turned against Dean and don't want him speaking out.

They are angry that he is not pushing the single payer, and don't see that he believes that the public option will lead there.

I get the angry ones when I post anything about it now.

:shrug:

I agree it is good he is being a spokesperson.

[slipslidingaway]

9. That is not true, I for one would like him to continue speaking out

but I also would like him to make the distinction between a public option plan competing with private plans and SPHC, instead of blurring the lines as he did on the Ed Schultz show.

You posted this video and changed the title to "Single payer groups accuse Dean of having them arrested in Portland" from the original title of
"June 5, 2009 Oregon Single Payer Action" and I did not hear anyone in that group who accused Dean of having them arrested. Maybe you could point out that part because I may have missed it in the video or blog post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=321786&mesg_id=321786


From what I can gather they were protesting the exclusion of SPHC advocates from the discussion while supposedly there were empty seats at the event. If that is true then Dean could have suggested the they be allowed admission, even if he did not organize the event and ticket raffle system.

Single-payer is being silenced, from the debates to the WH summit to the Senate Finance Committee, if Dean believes they should be heard then he can speak out against their exclusion, especially when he is at the event and could possibly change the outcome.

:shrug:

This should not be a fight among those who advocate for SPHC and people who want to keep their private insurance and have a public option available and we should try to make sure that we do not help the divide.

We should be discussing the differences and details, as much as we know at this point, and that includes the financing for both plans which should get more discussion.

Our tax dollars will also be used to subsidize the purchase of private insurance policies according to the report of Dean's address to the AHIP Convention, where this extra money will come from I'm not sure.

[slipslidingaway]

10. I think the funding issue is an important component that is sometimes

overlooked in many of these discussions.

[slipslidingaway]

12. From another post, but fits with your OP...

Choice is great when you have unlimited money to spend...unfortunately I think the balance sheet of the US is not in the greatest shape.

Tax dollars will be used to purchase private insurance.

:crazy:

Someone once said the best thing about being wealthy is that it allows you to make mistakes, I do no think we have that luxury.


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