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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:12 PM
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Muslims and Jews conned into eating meat bulked out with cow and pig products

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/...


Chicken injected with beef waste sold in UK


Cafes and restaurants across Britain have been selling chicken secretly injected with beef and pork waste, The Independent can reveal today.

In a hi-tech fraud run by firms in three EU states, food manufacturers are making bulking agents out of porcine and bovine gristle and bones that help inflate chicken breasts, so that they fetch a higher price.

The swindle was only detected by the Food Standards Agency (FSA) using new scientific techniques because the non-chicken material had been so highly processed it passed standard DNA tests.

Thousands of restaurateurs and cafe owners are likely to have been conned into buying chicken containing the powder – which binds water into chicken breasts – while diners have been unwittingly consuming traces of other animals when eating out.

Britain's two million Muslims, Jews and Hindus are forbidden from eating either pork or beef. Muslims would ordinarily eat halal chicken and Jews kosher chicken sold through approved caterers and butchers.

The Hindu Forum of Britain described news of the adulteration, which will be confirmed publicly today, as "shocking and potentially very distressing". Its secretary general, Bharti Tailor, said: "Eating beef is expressly forbidden because cows are considered to be sacred as they are a representation of the bounty of the gods, even unknowingly. The fact that the protein powders injected into chickens served in restaurants and cafes contain even traces of beef or pork is horrific. And that Hindus will have been eating beef contaminated chickens will be mentally agonising. Many will feel that they have broken their religious code of conduct."

The food regulator acknowledged the serious consequences of its findings. "Use of these proteins does not make chicken products unsafe, but it is important that people are given accurate information about their food," the FSA said.
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oh yuck!

what the hell is "beef waste"?

is beef waste used here? are their companys that sells beef waste? etc., etc.
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  - It's called "offal" and it is how it sounds  Taverner   Jun-08-09 12:13 PM   #1 
  - It doesn't sound appetizing.  KittyWampus   Jun-08-09 12:26 PM   #14 
  - The usual floor sweepings..  MineralMan   Jun-08-09 12:14 PM   #2 
  - I usually just buy a bucket of pig vaginas and make my own hotdogs. n/t  Ian David   Jun-08-09 12:16 PM   #5 
     - Don't forget rat droppings for that ball park flavor. n/t  sarge43   Jun-08-09 12:20 PM   #6 
     - There ya go. However, you're not getting  MineralMan   Jun-08-09 12:20 PM   #7 
     - There's a Rush Limbaugh/Ann Coulter joke in there somewhere,  nichomachus   Jun-08-09 01:50 PM   #22 
        - You went far enough.  sarge43   Jun-08-09 03:46 PM   #35 
  - Oh yuck.  Richard D   Jun-08-09 12:15 PM   #3 
  - Or, for our vegan readers, a tofurkey...  MineralMan   Jun-08-09 12:24 PM   #11 
  - Fortunately, a kind and just diety won't punish you for a mistake that not's your fault, right?  Ian David   Jun-08-09 12:15 PM   #4 
  - I went on a diety once, and lost a few pounds,  MineralMan   Jun-08-09 12:22 PM   #9 
  - Actually, Ian, in Judaism, no you wouldn't be "punished."  mamaleah   Jun-08-09 01:57 PM   #24 
     - correct, jews consider *knowingly* eating pork a problem, and even that isn't absolute  unblock   Jun-08-09 02:02 PM   #25 
     - Don't you mean schmear?  Ian David   Jun-08-09 02:34 PM   #27 
        - LOL  mamaleah   Jun-08-09 02:54 PM   #30 
  - but why are they injecting into chicken? was the chicken lacking something?  ensho   Jun-08-09 12:21 PM   #8 
  - Cheap weight. That's why.  MineralMan   Jun-08-09 12:23 PM   #10 
  - what is "beef waste"? Profits for agribusiness.  KittyWampus   Jun-08-09 12:24 PM   #12 
  - "Beef waste." How delightful.  flvegan   Jun-08-09 12:25 PM   #13 
  - LOL! When the euphimism for something STILL sounds hideous, you know it isn't good.  KittyWampus   Jun-08-09 12:28 PM   #15 
  - is beef waste used here? are their companys that sells beef waste? etc., etc.  unpossibles   Jun-08-09 12:32 PM   #16 
  - We don't call it beef waste here.  MineralMan   Jun-08-09 12:45 PM   #17 
     - probably not  unpossibles   Jun-08-09 12:51 PM   #18 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-08-09 12:53 PM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-08-09 02:30 PM   #26 
  - That is kind of funny, but meat sellers should be honest about their products. nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-08-09 01:00 PM   #20 
  - Corporations . . .honest . . .bwhahahahahahahaha  nichomachus   Jun-08-09 01:51 PM   #23 
     - I said "should be honest". nt  ZombieHorde   Jun-08-09 03:14 PM   #32 
  - k+r  Blue_Tires   Jun-08-09 01:02 PM   #21 
  - Even the chicken breasts have turned in to hot dogs.  harun   Jun-08-09 02:38 PM   #28 
  - Buncha whiners!  superduperfarleft   Jun-08-09 02:44 PM   #29 
  - "Oh, but that's DIFFERENT!"  Ignis   Jun-08-09 03:45 PM   #34 
  - We call it "Beef Bi-products" here...  JuniperLea   Jun-08-09 02:58 PM   #31 
  - What a disgusting thing to do period.  arikara   Jun-08-09 03:34 PM   #33 
  - Strange  mrfrapp   Jun-08-09 04:47 PM   #36 
  - and no one has been stuck dead yet?... wow - imagine that..... nt  votingupstart   Jun-08-09 04:51 PM   #37 
  - "the non-chicken material had been so highly processed it passed standard DNA tests."  Ohio Joe   Jun-08-09 04:58 PM   #38 
  - ugh....that's fucking sick  Blue_Tires   Jun-09-09 07:07 AM   #39 
 
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:13 PM
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1. It's called "offal" and it is how it sounds
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:26 PM
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14. It doesn't sound appetizing.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:14 PM
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2. The usual floor sweepings..
"what the hell is "beef waste"?"

It's all the stuff they can't make into cat or dog food. Gotta use it somehow, I suppose.

Wanna hot dog?

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:16 PM
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5. I usually just buy a bucket of pig vaginas and make my own hotdogs. n/t
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:20 PM
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6. Don't forget rat droppings for that ball park flavor. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:20 PM
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7. There ya go. However, you're not getting
Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 12:21 PM by MineralMan
everything you should. Ask about the pork snouts next time your ordering pig vaginas. They add a certain je ne sais quois to homemade hot dogs.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:50 PM
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22. There's a Rush Limbaugh/Ann Coulter joke in there somewhere,
but I'll not go there.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 03:46 PM
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35. You went far enough.
Thanks heaps for that visual. :evilgrin:
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:15 PM
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3. Oh yuck.
Can't answer your question, but for an experiment splurge on an organic chicken. You can taste the difference.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:24 PM
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11. Or, for our vegan readers, a tofurkey...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:15 PM
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4. Fortunately, a kind and just diety won't punish you for a mistake that not's your fault, right?
:sarcasm:

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:22 PM
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9. I went on a diety once, and lost a few pounds,
but I gained them right back.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:57 PM
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24. Actually, Ian, in Judaism, no you wouldn't be "punished."
Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 02:03 PM by mamaleah
Even in Orthodox Judaism, if you have made the effort to eat what has been certified as kosher, and it is not, and you unknowingly consumed it, you are not at fault.

But nice try at an anti-religion smear.





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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:02 PM
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25. correct, jews consider *knowingly* eating pork a problem, and even that isn't absolute
for instance, insulin-dependent diabetics can certainly take their insulin, even if it comes from a pig.

moreover, these aren't considered "sins" as they are more markers of identity than anything else, which is why jews have zero problem with gentiles eating pork or violating any of the rules that apply to jews.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:34 PM
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27. Don't you mean schmear?
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:54 PM
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30. LOL
Although that product looks gross.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:21 PM
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8. but why are they injecting into chicken? was the chicken lacking something?


what's the purpose of the injection?

is beef waste controlled by our health dept.?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:23 PM
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10. Cheap weight. That's why.
I used to have to shovel lots of cow waste when I worked at a dairy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:24 PM
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12. what is "beef waste"? Profits for agribusiness.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:25 PM
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13. "Beef waste." How delightful.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:28 PM
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15. LOL! When the euphimism for something STILL sounds hideous, you know it isn't good.
actually, it's not funny :puke:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:32 PM
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16. is beef waste used here? are their companys that sells beef waste? etc., etc.
I would bet $100 it's in a lot more meat products than you realize.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:45 PM
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17. We don't call it beef waste here.
We call it "beef by-products," and they're used in all sorts of things. Had your chondroitin today?
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:51 PM
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18. probably not
But then, I am a vegetarian and a fairly informed label reader. And as someone who has flirted with veganism (and also had friends and roomies who were), I know a lot of the ones to look for. I also tend to cook a lot from basic ingredients whenever I can.

I suppose my shampoo may have that in it, but otherwise I am probably ok. Plus, I don't eat my shampoo.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:00 PM
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20. That is kind of funny, but meat sellers should be honest about their products. nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:51 PM
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23. Corporations . . .honest . . .bwhahahahahahahaha
You crack me up.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 03:14 PM
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32. I said "should be honest". nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:02 PM
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21. k+r
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:38 PM
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28. Even the chicken breasts have turned in to hot dogs.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:44 PM
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29. Buncha whiners!
I'm getting hungry for rib-eye! People for the eating of tasty animals! For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three! WOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

/sarcasm
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 03:45 PM
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34. "Oh, but that's DIFFERENT!"
I guess the anti-veggie screed du jour on DU will have to be re-written:

"People for the Eating of SOME PARTS ONLY OF CERTAIN Tasty Animals"

"Mmm, now I'm hungry for a steak WITHOUT SO MUCH BEEF OFFAL!"

"I had a burger WITH UNIDENTIFIED QUANTITIES OF WASTE IN IT for lunch!"


Hmm, the new ones just don't seem to have quite the same impact, do they? :shrug:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:58 PM
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31. We call it "Beef Bi-products" here...
But it must be noted on the label.

What a disgusting thing to do to people without their knowledge!
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 03:34 PM
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33. What a disgusting thing to do period.
People are accepting too much crap as "food" these days. No wonder there are all these chronic diseases and cancers.
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 04:47 PM
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36. Strange
Why single out Jews and Muslims? As far as I can tell everyone has been conned. There's no reason at all that chickens should be injected with anything and you don't need a religious text to tell you that.
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votingupstart Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 04:51 PM
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37. and no one has been stuck dead yet?... wow - imagine that..... nt
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 04:58 PM
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38. "the non-chicken material had been so highly processed it passed standard DNA tests."
WTF? What kind of processing nulls DNA?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 07:07 AM
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39. ugh....that's fucking sick
another kick
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