ABC News: CIA hires terrorist group to operate inside Iran.

[tjwash]

Full Story Here

New York, April 4, IRNA - Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has hired a Pakistani terrorist group that has carried out a series of deadly terrorist attacks inside Iran, ABC News has reported on Wednesday.

The group, members of the Baluchi tribe, operates from Pakistan's province of Baluchestan, just across the border from Iran.

ABC cited US government sources it did not identify as saying the US has maintained close ties to its leader, Abdel-Malik Regi, since 2005.

The group, called Jundullah, has carried out raids, resulting in the deaths or kidnapping of Iranian ordinary people as well as soldiers and officials.

The large Iranian community residing in the US protested strongly to Voice of America (VOA)'s live interview with Regi recently in which the terrorist claimed responsibility for the operations.

Regi admitted to have personally executed some of the Iranian captives, the ABC News report said.

Link to ABC News Article

A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News.

The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran.

It has taken responsibility for the deaths and kidnappings of more than a dozen Iranian soldiers and officials.

U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional oversight.

Tribal sources tell ABC News that money for Jundullah is funneled to its youthful leader, Abd el Malik Regi, through Iranian exiles who have connections with European and Gulf states.

So we are now supporting an ex-Taliban terrorist to push us further towards a war with Iran. Same old pig, just with a new hat on. When pressed, Dubya and his cronies undoubtedly will say "No, no no no, these guys aren't Al-Qaeda, They're freedom fighters."

[Solly Mack]

1. Pakistan "Contra" anyone?

"U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional oversight"

Hmmm...and there are how many missing dollars that were supposed to go to Iraq?

[jwirr]

16. Wonder what be corporation is funding this group if gov. is not?

[Solly Mack]

20. well, there is no way any "militant' group is doing

this without funding...and I seriously doubt the CIA is merely giving advice...so

lost dollars earmarked for Iraq could have gone to a third party - say a dummy corporation or dummy group - and then funneled back to the militant group...

or money was overpaid for services to a legitimate company and the books only reflect a correct payment, and the extra funneled through another company or group...then onto the militants

[ClintonTyree]

45. Those "footballs", the bricks of cash Americans were tossing....

around and playing with, might have found a few "receivers" in Pakistan.

Your first thought was my first thought. The "missing" billions from Iraq have found a home. The god damned BFEE strikes again!

[lizbitchwitchy]

52. Government? Corporation?

What is the difference?

[Chemical Bill]

72. This is what drug money is for.

You know how Afghanistan has a bumper crop of poppies? Remember Air America in Vietnam, flying heroin from the golden triangle? Remember the Contras smuggling cocaine? Anybody notice a pattern? Bueller? Bueller?

Bill

[Solly Mack]

94. Excellent point!!

[blm]

109. And where did Poppy Bush DUMP the tons of cheap IranContra cocaine? Inner cities

and black communities.

The 1996 report on CIA drugrunning that dumped all that cheap coke into black communities never got the traction it needed with the public because the Clinton WH helped downplay and deny the report and targeted the reporter, Gary Webb, for a takedown while they stonewalled on the documents that finally showed up in 1998 when the public was distracted with sex stories.

BET has a documentary out now called American Gangster which gives an overview of that report and includes the CIA document that proves Webb's report was accurate.

[cadmium]

111. There you go!

One thing to note about the Bush-Cheney's is that they go back to the same playbook . Oil, fear, drugs, and weapons are their currency.

[peacetalksforall]

36. Missing money went to Dubai and from there it went to Chalabi wannabees

in the U.S. and Europe?

[Solly Mack]

39. Who knows

but you can bet it's some well traveled money

[RaleighNCDUer]

64. "Contras" was my first thought, too.

Looks like Negroponte got his little organization going during his stint in Hondur...er, Iraq.

[Supersedeas]

81. as the line between good and evil gets grayer and grayer...Gitmo Renditions and this

[Solly Mack]

95. Yep - it's not like they (Bush inc) don't know how it's done is it?

[file83]

104. 9/11 anyone?

Since "hiring" terrorists (covertly of course) to start 2 wars worked so well with Afghanistan and Iraq on 9/11, why not do the same thing with Iran?

[shadowknows69]

2. So, we hired them but we're not paying them?

and that's what make it ok??

[tjwash]

3. Plausible deniability.

nt

[shadowknows69]

24. That's not even PD that's just BS

n/t

[Kikosexy2]

31. The CIA...

do cause a great deal of ills in the world...it needs to be dismantled....nothing good comes from them....

[KansDem]

4. So why can't Bush hire this same death squad to take out OBL?

Assuming Bush still wants to capture/kill the man responsible for 9/11. Isn't OBL supposed to be in hiding inside Pakistan? Hell, the death squad wouldn't even have to travel far; Bush would save big bucks by not having to pay for international travel.

[originalpckelly]

10. OH MY FUCKING GOD: Because this group is tied to al-Qaeda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jundullah

That's the fucking reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KansDem]

13. So why is the CIA hobnobbing with al Qaeda?

I thought they were on our side?

[blm]

22. The CIA loyal to Bush1 never stopped hobnobbing with terrorists and helped create Al Qaeda.

You think BFEE ever STOPPED funding terrorism in the 90s just because Kerry and Gonzalez caught them doing it, did you?

[KansDem]

28. Well, color me dumbfounded...

...and naive!

[lizbitchwitchy]

53. News Flash!

The government, the CIA and most government agencies are NOT on our side. We are nothing but fodder - dispensable and that which makes the money machines turn round and round. What up and smell the facisct pigs and the traitors in the white house and all over our chambers of Congress - And don't forget to keep your eye on the bloodspill.

[crikkett]

77. al Quaeda or the CIA? n/t

[Virginia Dare]

84. Isn't that how we ended up with Al-Qaeda?

wasn't OBL the CIA's man in Afghanistan? Maybe they're back on our side again?

[Cabcere]

42. You know, I'm really beginning to think that the only interest

Bush has in bin Laden is...well, I think this sums it all up quite nicely.

[The Lost Patriot]

71. If you would like to know why......

we aren't looking for OBL, start by taking a glance at the FBI most wanted list. Under OBL's supposed attacks and crimes, 9/11 is not one of the mentioned attacks. As a matter of fact, nobody on their most-wanted list has any listing under the 9/11 incident. You would think 9/11 would be major reason for wanting these guys. Why is the crime unlisted? Very wierd to me.

[KansDem]

80. Thanks, Lost Patriot!

Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.

FBI 10 most wanted

You're correct; no where in the above description does it mention 9/11. Very weird, indeed!

And welcome to DU! You won't be "lost" for long!

[Raksha]

106. I believe the FBI said there wasn't enough evidence

connecting Osama bin Laden to 9/11! Weird, huh? I don't have a link or more specific information on this--I just remember reading it somewhere.

[electron_blue]

78. Yes, it's your assumption that's flawed. OBL is safe as long as Bush is in power

[jazzjunkysue]

102. OBL and abortion will always be preserved by the * crime family.

They are always defined by their hate, and must be able to point to a source of fear and hate to maintain any sort of influence over dump voters.

[blm]

5. This is a typical BFEE operation - they've been funding terrorism and unrest for decades now.

This is why it was so important for BushInc to get the books closed on IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI and CIA drugrunning stories.

Does anyone really believe that Poppy Bush and his cronies woke up one day in Jan 1993 and decided to STOP drugrunning, armsdealing, moneylaundering and funding global terrorist groups just because they were no longer in the White House?

Fock that - BFEE became STRONGER in the 90s. Now they have control of most broadcast and print media around the country, too, and can pretty much get away with shit like this.

[Solly Mack]

11. My first thoughts

Been there done that...and it's happening again

[blm]

17. Want to know WHY it's still going on?

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

But, of course, YOU know well why. Just hoping more people catch on about the rEALITY this nation faces.

[Solly Mack]

23. good ole bullshit national healing

We're experiencing the consequences of so-called national healing now...and we will continue to do so until a true reckoning is had

[blm]

25. Open the books and the world will have its greatest shot at PEACE.

.

[Solly Mack]

27. I agree. America continues to sacrifice the people in order to

protect the lies and crimes of government.

And as crazy as it sounds, have convinced some of the people to cheer such a position.

[BuyingThyme]

6. Well then, let's start arresting these folks.

Isn't that what the Patriot Act is for?

[JuniperLea]

7. "We" never learn

Remember the Taliban?

[originalpckelly]

8. Remember what Sy Hersch reported? This must be it.

If I remember correctly, these folks are somehow tied to al-Qaeda.

[Raksha]

43. Yes, I remember what Sy Hersh reported.

I printed out his New Yorker article, "The Redirection" and read it through twice. He spoke in general terms about the U.S. funding terrorist groups linked to Al-Qaeda.

Somehow, being forewarned by Sy Hersh didn't make the shock any less to me when I logged onto DU and began reading this thread. I feel just...devastated. I have tears in my eyes and more than anything I feel so ASHAMED! WHY do these monsters want to make us ashamed to be Americans??? I can't take it any more--impeach these bastards!!!

[Amonester]

48. If this simple answer to your "why" can help you, I hope it can:

Why? Because they don't give a flying fly about anyone feeling ashamed, or about anyone who got murdered in their wet-dream-of-a-new-Pearl-Harbor come true and their relatives, or about anyone getting blown up by IEDs, or about anyone drowning to death in their own beds because of their imcompetence. All they ever wanted is u n l i m i t e d power to do whatever they feel like will raise themselves -- and their drunk-dead cronies -- a few more millions here, or a few more billions there, or another trillion on their next term, and then BRAG about it at their next family-reunion.

That's really all that matters to them.

It is not your fault if these sickos do not, never did, nor will never care about ANYONE else than THEMSELVES.

I truly hope this simple -- but true -- answer can help you feel not ashamed. It's not your fault.

[Raksha]

56. I know it isn't my fault. Like just about everyone here at DU,

I wasn't fooled for one minute by their brazen attempts to use 9/11 as a pretext for war with Iraq, which the neocons wanted anyway--in order to get control of Iraq's oil and as a pretext for destroying democracy in the United States.

I am ashamed because they are committing their crimes against humanity in the name of the American people!

The only way we can redeem ourselves--not just in the world's eyes but in our own eyes is to impeach Bush and Cheney. That's at least as important, if not more so. We have to reaffirm to ourselves what we stand for and what our core values are, and sponsoring terrorists is NOT what we stand for!!! I really don't care if Bush and Cheney get impeached on their LAST day in office, although the sooner the better. The important thing is that we repudiate them and everything they stand for.

[Glimmer of Hope]

50. I had to print out the article and read it twice too. I couldn't comprehend it then

and I can't comprehend it now.

[Raksha]

57. Not because it's intrinsically incomprehensible, although the interactions

of the key players Sy Hersh talks about are rather convoluted. The real reason it's incomprehensible is because it's unthinkable--at least if you're a normal person. But once you truly understand these monsters are not, and never been, normal people, then it becomes comprehensible.

[blm]

87. Once you understand the real story of IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI and CIA drugrunning

it becomes easy to see that the BFEE just CONTINUED its operations throughout the 90s even as Americans were lulled into thinking that Bush1 and his cronies were out of power.

The BFEE operations NEVER STOPPED in the 90s and instead became STRONGER and more widespread as Democrats who had been exposing their crimes became marginalized while Democrats willing to provide cover to BFEE operations gained power within the DC powerstructure.

[JackRiddler]

91. This must be a PART of it...

Hersh was talking about US support for Saudi-connected Qaeda-connected Sunni jihad groups hired to "help" in Iraq and destabilize Lebanon.

It never ends, it never gets less than obvious. Al Qaeda is a CIA asset. Which makes 9/11...

[indepat]

9. If it walks like and quacks like state-sponsored terrorism, it is state-sponsored....

[kimmerspixelated]

12. IMPEACH THESE BASTARDS, NOW!!!

[calimary]

90. So... I hope we're still calling our congresscritters and demanding

IMPEACHMENT.

I try to do it every weekday. Please note the TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers conveniently located in my sig line below.

[jwirr]

14. So we are creating another Bin Ladin/Al Quada. Could we get any

dumber?

[blm]

19. BFEE operations never STOPPED in 1993 just because they were out of the White House then.

In fact, the BFEE grew STRONGER in the 90s and also gained control of most broadcast and print media to ease their path.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[BuyingThyme]

29. Thank you.

[JackRiddler]

92. Your "we" is carrying a false assumption.

The covert state has learned, they are merely applying the same old lesson. Divide and conquer abroad by supporting the worst wherever they are found - manufacture the enemy for domestic purposes - generate the next set of wars - profit mightily.

[LSK]

15. k&r

[Henny Penny]

18. Just Iran???? n/t

[juno jones]

21. Down in the basement here

is a researcher named DrDebug. His research turned me on to something called 'the safari club', which was a private club for spooks that GHWBush founded in '76 or '77. Their main goal was to fund the mujahadeen (now called 'taliban' and 'al qaida') for the purposes of giving the USSR their own vietnam. These groups are all conected at the roots and it goes back farther in time than many suspect. It's very scary, really...

On edit: Here's a big chunk of recent history with footnotes. Funny how the players just keep recycing thru our government...
http://www.spitfirelist.com/f524.html

[Raksha]

55. The "safari club," huh? Interesting.

Thanks for the link...I'll take a look at it.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

26. I read this info yesterday. Am I surprised? Totally NOT!!!

These creeps are BELOW 'immoral' since they claim to hold no morals, at all. They'll do whatever they want to achieve their ends. Sickest of the sick in humanity.

That's why they MUST be subjected to the rule of law and PAY PAY PAY to society for every abuse of power over society.

[sniffa]

30. oh how sweet

we must pay the terrorists over there, or something something over here.

i thought aL queda was the "enemy"?

[blm]

32. This really is the BIGGEST story of the day and its slipping into the cracks.

.

[sniffa]

37. i k&r'ed

get it to countdown.

[Bucky]

33. Damn! I've heard of this, but I'm surprised ABC ran this story

Double sourcing a story like this is pretty difficult. They had to devote some resources to running a story like this down. I never thought I'd see a big network actually report this policy. Those Jundallah's are bad news; their attacks have killed lots of people. If the US has sponsored this, we've given them a cause for declaring war.

"I've set a clear doctrine: America makes no distinction between the terrorists and the countries that harbor them. If you harbor a terrorist, you're just as guilty as the terrorists..."
--George W Bush

[Raksha]

46. Maybe some of the Powers That Be decided it's time to take down

the BFEE? I mean the people who really pull the strings, whoever they are. Maybe BushCo has outlived their usefulness to them, so they leaked this story to ABC, or gave them the green light to leak this story, or something.

If that is the case, we need to beware of a limited hang-out. They will try to take a little bit of pressure off the system, allow a few "cosmetic" reforms, etc. but keep the real power structure intact. That's the biggest danger I can see: beware of a premature and incomplete "national healing." They ALL need to be taken down once and for all.

[Emit]

34. Recent and older DU threads discussing this

"ABC News Exclusive: The Secret War Against Iran" by deminks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

MSNBC.com Breaking: "18 killed in bus bombing in SE IRAN" by blitzen
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

and an even older one from last year:

"Confirmation of Larisa Alexandrovna's scoop on Iran Military Ops!" by benburch
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Solly Mack]

97. Thank you for posting those!!!

[peacetalksforall]

35. The U.S. Government loves terrorists - they have been working with

terrorist for over 40 years. From Cubans to Pakistani's - they have had the globe covered.

[blm]

79. And why BCCI is STILL the most important key to the global fascist agenda and

just about everything happening today.

[peacetalksforall]

38. Do we know how many lives have been lost and and children

denied attention and health care taken away because of two words - REGIME CHANGE.

[peacetalksforall]

40. We heard the U.S. was going in to Iran about two years ago for

spying and ???? Someone posted that someone they knew had been deployed to Iran.

[peacetalksforall]

41. ABC posting this is immediately suspect. Rapid supporters of the WH.

The writer went out of the way to state that Congressional approval would be required for unding. Sounds like a set up.

Thought crossed - is something about to be revealed that would put the WH/CIA in deeper trouble?

Or is this just more proof that the U.S. partners with al Queda?

The big question - why did ABC publish this? I haven't been near a tv - is everyone reporting it?

Somethins' up - perhaps they have been captured and there are some citizens in the group?

[annabanana]

67. legitimate cynicism!

ABC is now officially a suspect news source. This article is wildly out of character with their recent "reporting", and one HAS to wonder if there are other motives.

[Virginia Dare]

86. Brian Ross obviously has some good sources within the CIA...

this is more back-stabbing of the Bush Admin by CIA insiders who are understandably pissed about what's gone down there. Expect more to come.

[NashVegas]

96. The Night After They Had the Nukes Story!

Fair and balanced?

[KansDem]

99. I wondered the same thing. Why now? Why ABC?

I've grown increasingly suspicious of the US Corpomedia in recent years, so I have to wonder "Why this?" I wonder if it might be an attempt to discredit the CIA--moreso than usual with the average American--in order to produce a backlash regarding the Plame incident.

Either by:
1) Twisted logic: "If CIA is 'bad' and Plame was in CIA, then Plame is 'bad'"
2) Make Plame and Wilson persona non grata (see no. 1) in time for Wilson's civil suit (or to downplay the ongoing hearings).

I just don't buy that ABC is acting in the best interests of the nation as the "Fourth Estate."

[blm]

110. They could be operating under the plan for 'limited hangout' so that the record

shows the topic was part of the news cycle but nothing came of it. Every now and then a crucial story comes out but as long as none of the other media repeat it or discuss it, then it dies.

This has happened on many serious stories over the last two decades.

[peacetalksforall]

44. From the wikipedia article linked above - Pakistan chaing Jundallahl

"In February 2006 the Karachi anti-terrorist court awarded the death penalty and life imprisonment for eleven activists of Jundullah group for attacking the convoy of former Corps Commander Karachi, and incumbent Vice Chief of Army Staff, General Ahsan Saleem Hayat in Karachi on June 10, 2004.<5>"

How do we do it? How do we juggle all these factions?

Bush and Cheney walk down the path holding the hand of an Israeli leader on one side and the King of Saudi Arabia on the other.

They befrien and praise the leader of Pakistan at every opportunity. Pakistan against Jundallah. So the U.S. holds the hand of Muzharraf on one side the the hand of al Queda on the other.

[AnnieBW]

47. Because it worked so well in the past

Contras, Afghan Mujahaddin, etc...

[dysfunctional press]

49. they aren't "terrorists"...they're "guerilla fighters"...

if they were "terrorists", that would make us state-sponsors of terrorism, and land us on the axis of evil.

[Gman]

51. I guess you go with what you know

these criminals learned with Iran-Contra.

[mb7588a]

54. shucks. wrong time frame for valerie plame. nt.

[Vidar]

58. Ollie North & G. Gordon Libby must be proud.

[EVDebs]

59. Where did Congress approve the funding for this kind of military action ? nt

[dailykoff]

63. They approved it in 1947

when they created the CIA.

[EVDebs]

83. You're right about that. BCCI link in this article

The Evidence Is There: It’s Time for Congress to Investigate the Ties Between the Bush Family and Osama bin Laden
How the Bush family's private connection to a dirty offshore bank is the only link between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.

By Lucy Komisar, IPS News. Posted April 5, 2007.
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/50156 /

Now, then, about those links in the Attorney-gate scandal linking CIA/GOP/$...

[blm]

89. Why do many Dems still accept Bill Clinton's decision to ignore BCCI entirely

during his terms and the fact that he never even mentioned BCCI once in his entire book?

[EVDebs]

101. The Jackson Stephen's moneysource was BCCI $ ... w/strings attached sotospeak

Can we expect same from Hillary ? We know we can from the R's candidates, as this is the real scandal behind CIA/GOP/$ of Cunningham and Lam scandals.

Did we get the war the CIA 'paid for' ?

"It's all part of a growing ongoing investigation into corruption in defense and intelligence contracts, which already has sent former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to prison and, legal sources say, may threaten others in Congress and the CIA."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250 /

THIS IS THE MOTHER OF ALL SCANDALS, and they sure do love the $ too.

[jaybeat]

60. The terrorist against my enemy is not a terrorist

So let's see if I've got this right...

The "global war on terror" (which kicked into high gear on 9/11/01) is against, not a government or even a specific political or military movement (the war in Iraq being part of the "front lines" of the "global war on terror"), but against those who employ "terrorist" TACTICS...

EXCEPT, when, as in this case, they are working WITH us, AGAINST "state sponsors of terrorism," the "AXIS of EVIL," even if those SAME PEOPLE are, in fact, ALLIES and ideological soul-mates of the very same people who attacked the United States on 9/11/01, allegedly America's "wake up call" to the NECESSITY of the "global war on terror" against those who "hate us for our freedoms."

Oh, yeah. I'm with you. Makes perfect sense. Fight 'em over there so we don't have to fight 'em over here. Fund 'em over there so we don't have to... huh?

[merh]

61. so the admin can be arrested and detained and all of their

assets seized because they are funding terrorists.

And Syria is a bad nation because it supports terrorist, right.

[dailykoff]

62. Hey they're catching on.

It's only taken them what, 30 years to notice this crap?

[formercia]

65. It's about the oil

Lookie here...and if a few million heretics kill each other in the process, so be it. It's the Crusader way.

http://governmentofbalochistan.blogspot.com/2006/04/eco...

Economic Potential of Balochistan

Balochistan's colonizers, Iran and Pakistan, have used the argument that “resource-rich” Baloch territory cannot sustain as an independent country! According to figures given below, Balochistan has the potential to generate $58 billion per year within a short span after gaining its independence.

The excuses given in the past by the colonizers for totally neglecting Balochistan is that the major constraints in the industrial development have been the lack or the absence of infrastructure, scattered nature of population, vastness of area, dearth of skilled labor, social structure, tribal feuds and lack of marketing facilities.

[NuttyFluffers]

66. it wounds me that i'm so jaded that this doesn't surprise me

oh well, K&R for the nite crew.

[formercia]

68. The Big Oil Connection

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Be sure to go to the blog and read it all. It's very telling.

[hippiechick]

69. Great, and in 15 years we'll be 'smoking them out' ...

... and 'speading democracy' in their name again.

[formercia]

73. This is a 'Good' terorist group

They promise not to shoot us or set off a dirty bomb inside the US as long as we keep paying them. I'm sure none of the money is finding its way to 'Bad' terrorist groups.

[pauldp]

85. Yeah I'm sure they have nothing to do with all of that heroin

that's flowing out of Afganistan either.

[blm]

88. This has been going on for DECADES - and BushInc gets away with it because some powerful Democrats

have provided him with the cover.

[pauldp]

105. Lee Hamilton comes to mind. n/t

[blm]

107. Bill Clinton is Lee Hamilton on steroids.

Chuck Robb is usually tapped for coverup duties, too. John Breaux is suspect, too - he has always been personally very close with Poppy Bush.

I think BFEE has blackmail photos on some Dems.

[AikidoSoul]

70. K & R n/t

[tom_paine]

Busheviks have long committed treason with America's enemies

Prescott Bush laundering nazi money
Watergate
Iran-Contra
The entire evil Bush Appointistration.

[SemperEadem]

74. Damn.... just damn...

[Blackhatjack]

75. As Sy Hersh pointed out, this is not the only terrorist group the US is using inside Iran...n/t

[Marie26]

76. DU was way ahead of the pack on this

There've been threads on this issue for months.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

82. We need to keep the attention focused on this

no more death squads

[kaal]

93. freedom fighters today Al-Qaida tomorrow...

Do we ever learn..?!


It is a US policy to fund opposition groups of unfavorable regimes. Bush will very openly assert his support of the opposition in Iran. He previously called on opposition figures in Iraq to overthrow Saddam. Regime change is after all this US Administrations gift to the world.

It doesn't matter if the groups are a bunch of fundamentalist, murderers or extremist. They will always be supported if they serve the interests of the US.... Freedom Fighters so long as they serve our interests. When they don't they'll be labeled terrorists.


The Baluchi tribes are another people in the middle east very similar to the Kurd, who deserve their own Homeland. They are scattered around coastal areas of Iran and Pakistan. Many refugees went to Oman and are now citizens of that country. Supporting the Balushis is a very sensitive issue and giving them anything resembling a Nation will be opposed by US allies in the Persian Gulf region.

They are obviously just been used, as I doubt the US would ever assist them to attain their ambition of Independence from Iran and Pakistan. Jundullah are been used as Pawns very similar to Al-Qaida....

[derby378]

98. Well, that does it. The "War on Terror" is finally over.

Osama bin Laden won. al-Qaeda won. George W. Bush won. The Carlyle Group won.

We, the People, have lost.

[DireStrike]

100. What a surprise! I am SHOCKED! -nt-

edit to include

[jazzjunkysue]

103. Happy Easter news dump. Does ABC intend to keep covering news?

What will the other networks do, if ABC does news?

[BearSquirrel2]

108. If this is true ...

If this is true, it's an impeachable offense. One cannot both "fight" terrorism and BE a terrorist sponsoring state. It's hypocritical bullshit.

[halobeam]

112. kick for more views...

I'm going to ask ABC to continue on this, I hope we all do. Somewhere up this thread, it was stated that big stories like this get dropped in, and die. I whole-heartedly agree.

[cadmium]

113. Good point. They will probably

be strong-armed by the administration into saying this was a hoax or some such thing to blunt the implications. Good point to write ABC and to question how Afghan drub money may be involved.

[JackRiddler]

114. kick