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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:25 PM
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Confirmed: Tiller's killer associated with Operation Rescue
OR's site is down right now, but here is the Google cache of it:
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:ZzTSMfjbUlsJ:www.operationrescue.org/pray-in-may-to-end-aboriton-wichita-ks-may-17-20-2007/+%22scott+roeder%22+kansas&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Check out post #9.

# Scott Roeder Says:
May 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm

Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.
Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:27 PM
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1. the christian taliban in all it's glory
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:43 PM
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28. Here is ColbertWatcher's screengrab from another thread:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #28
74. death camp
Edited on Sun May-31-09 07:22 PM by spanone
pretzel logic
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #28
136. "Bleass Everyone?"
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:04 AM
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137. Typical freep-style misspelling
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 10:14 AM by peace frog
except he may be a murderer as well as a wingnut.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #137
142. No, that's how they pronounce it.
Bl-eeeeeaaasss. :eyes:
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #142
143. Phonics is alive and well, I see
although I'm sure the phonetical spelling of the word was purely accidental.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:27 PM
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2. Nice page.
Think I'll go shower in bleach now.
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tan guera Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:28 PM
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4. I call it Christo-Fascism
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:28 PM
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3. Is this guy the official suspect?
Has that been confirmed?

If so, Operation Rescue needs to be forcibly closed down by government agents.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Yes, Scott Roeder was picked up by Kansas authorities with connection to the murder n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #3
101. And if someone who once posted here
killed an official in the Bushco administration, should they shut down Democratic Underground?

Just posting drivel to a website does not make someone "officially" affiliated with the organization that runs the website. It will be interesting to see how Operation Rescue cooperates with the authorities, but I expect that they will.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #101
149. Operation Rescue does a whole lot more than post to a web site.
They sometimes fund these crazies. They encourage them, provide information on their targets, justify their behavior and frequently bail them out of jail. Oh, yeah Operation rescue is supporting (physically and emotionally) Murderers for Jesus.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:22 PM
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150. Actually, someone here has posted stuff like that here before and
the Secret Service was called. Skinner cooperated fully and was on board with everything, and the offending people were tombstoned. So nothing was shut down. There was no need to, because everything was above board and proactive.

It's when the organizations and websites DON'T cooperate....when they scrub records and try to hide things and protect people they KNOW are culpable....then certainly shutting them down should be considered.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:28 PM
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5. byebye Operation Rescue. n/t
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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:29 PM
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7. Oh snap.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #7
155. Oh "steak it"
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:30 PM
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8. Hmmm....so Operation Rescue breeds terrorists. How lovely. N/T
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Vyan Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #8
104. This isn't their first trip around the block
on terrorism and anti-Abortion Hate Crimes. Operation Rescue (aka Operation Save America) has been at this a long time.

http://my.execpc.com/~awallace/antinews.htm
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #104
148. Remember, this is the GOP's Operation Rescue . . .!!!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:32 PM
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9. OR provides aid and comfort to terrorists.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:40 PM
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23. weren't a couple of guys sent away for years for aid and comfort to Hamas?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8071113.stm

And how is Operation Rescue any different (aside form the fact the Holy Land Foundation didn't directly support violent activity, and only engaged in charitable operations, unlike any anti-abortion group)
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:42 PM
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24. Sure, but aren't they brown?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:43 PM
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27. Worse yet, they aren't part of the Republican base
nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:44 PM
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29. Then that answers that question.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:32 PM
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10. it's so creepy
Note how he specifies (inside, not just outside) of Dr. Tiller's church. I mean this is seriously creepy.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:32 PM
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11. Good work, SLT! Make sure you screen capture this and send it to KO and Rachel. n/t
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. You also might want to send this to the local PD department investigating this.
I just heard on the news that they are looking for links between the killer and anti-abortion groups.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:39 PM
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102. I think they should look at our "Local Catholic Church" because since we moved
here nearly three years ago, they had a good sized "Billboard" on their front lawn next to their steps basically calling abortion murder. Then the weirdest thing happened a couple of days ago.... they took it down. I have looked at that spot every time I drive by it and found it strange that they went from screaming about it on a sign to zilch. Could the word have been out????????? The Chamber of Commerce two blocks away, also holds Pro-Life meetings.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #102
147. The Chamber of Commerce . . . ???
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 11:49 AM by defendandprotect
Well, the right loves to penetrate and use religion and government ---

Our town is again heavy with GOP signs for candidates for Governor - primary in June.

No signs appear for Democrats in our town!!

I noticed the other day that the signs were on the sidewalk in front of the Lord & Taylor

store which makes it look like they are supporting Republicans for office.

I mentioned it and hope they make them move them.

There is so much intimidation in our town re "signs" that you only see Democratic Party

signs when we have a Democratic Mayor to enforce them!



And, agree with you on that Church Sign -- imagine the "word was out."
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #147
159. Yes. A recent Agenda posted on their Website locally had a "Pro-Life Meeting" listed.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:59 PM
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163. Amazing . . . !!!
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:32 PM
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12. Post #8 is more incriminating the #9 imo.
"God has Tiller's number and it won't be long now."
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:33 PM
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13. Recommending this with heavy heart. Important info that was suspected from outset
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:34 PM
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14. Domestic, Christian, Republican Terrorists.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:34 PM
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16. Be sure to take pictures of this
Operation Rescue is in the process of scrubbing it's site right now.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:36 PM
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19. They can't hide from the wonderful Google Cache though n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #19
162. You may find "The Wayback Machine" a better alternative.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:34 PM
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17. The same Scott Roeder?
From ADL's Militia Watch

July 7, <1997> Kansas: Scott Roeder is sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for parole violations following a 1996 conviction for having bomb components in his car trunk. Roeder, a sovereign citizen and tax protester, violated his parole by not filing tax returns or providing his social security number to his employer.

http://www.adl.org/MWD/cocv1n3.asp
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. I would be very surprised if it wasn't the same guy
He's one of these Christian dominionist, militia types.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. the same organizations DHS reported on recently
the report that was pulled because folks like Michelle Malkin screamed
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #25
46. can we roll that report up and swat Malkin with it?
Didn't the report also point finger at some radical left groups too? Amazing how loud the right squeals when someone makes a valid point.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #25
118.  **** ding ding ding ding ding *****
AHEM

Move along, folks. Nothing to see here. Move along, now.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #17
56. More on the arrest here...
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19960417&slug=2324642


Suspected Freeman Arrested With Bomb Fuse

AP

TOPEKA, Kan. - A man identified by the FBI as a member of the anti-government Freemen group was arrested yesterday after deputies found what they called a bomb-triggering device in his car.

Scott Roeder, 38, of Silver Lake, Kan., was arrested in Topeka and held on charges of criminal use of explosives, driving with a suspended license and failure to carry registration and insurance.

Roeder was stopped because his car didn't have a legitimate license plate. Instead, it had a tag indicating the driver was a "sovereign" citizen and immune from Kansas law.


38 years old in 1996 would be 51/52 now. Do we know his current age?

Sid
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #56
63. per DailyKos he's 51 now, with description:
Tiller Murder Suspect was Bomb Maker, Tax Protester
by FreeStateDem
Share this on Twitter - Tiller Murder Suspect was Bomb Maker, Tax Protester Sun May 31, 2009 at 04:33:47 PM PDT
Police have arrested a 51-year old Kansas man for the murder of Wichita abortion provider Dr. George Tiller. Police are not releasing the name of the suspect, but numerous media sources are reporting the name of a possible suspect.

FreeStateDem's diary :: ::
News reports described the suspect as:

"A white male in his 50's or 60's with grey hair that is balding in the middle. He is about 6'1" and about 220 pounds and was wearing a white shirt and dark pants."
According to a Democratic Underground thread, a 1997 Militia Watchdog report put out by the Anti-Defamation League lists the following activity for July 7:

"July 7, Kansas: Scott Roeder is sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for parole violations following a 1996 conviction for having bomb components in his car trunk. Roeder, a sovereign citizen and tax protester, violated his parole by not filing tax returns or providing his social security number to his employer."


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/31/737335/-Tiller-Murder-Suspect-was-Bomb-Maker,-Tax-Protester
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #63
67. Only one Scott Roeder of that age in Kansas
Veromi.com shows a Scott P. Roeder age 51 as having lived in Kansas City, Topeka, and Shawnee Mission. And the one who was arrested in 1996 is also Scott P. Roeder. So it's clearly the same guy.
(The only other Scott Roeder in Kansas is Scott A. Roeder, age 21, of Haysville.)

http://www.geometry.net/detail/book_author/freeman_e_a_page_no_3.html

April 17, 1996
Web posted at: 2:30 p.m. EDT (CNN) A Kansas man identified by the FBI as a member of the anti-government Freemen group was being held Wednesday on explosives charges . . .

Scott P. Roeder, 38, was arrested Tuesday in Kansas after deputies found what they called a bomb-triggering device in his car. The Silver Lake man was arrested in Topeka and held on charges of criminal use of explosives, driving on a suspended license and failure to carry registration and insurance. He was stopped because his car didn't have a legitimate license plate. Instead, it had a tag indicating the driver was a "sovereign" citizen and immune from Kansas law. The same type of license plate is sometimes used by the Freemen, whose members in Montana are in a standoff with federal agents. Roeder's name is on an FBI list of Freemen members, said Sheriff Dave Meneley of Shawnee County, Kansas. In Roeder's trunk, authorities found fuse cord, a one-pound can of gunpowder, ammunition, a blasting cap and two 9-volt batteries, one wired to a switch the alleged triggering device.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #67
71. Some court records here
Edited on Sun May-31-09 07:15 PM by starroute
http://www.shawneecourt.org/doe/search.jsp?last=ROEDER&first=S&ALL=Y&close=&location=internet

Case Name SSN Role
98CV000305 -ROEDER,SCOTT,P,65192, N/A 1P
96CR 01251 -ROEDER,SCOTT,P, 6395 1D
96TR002165 -ROEDER,SCOTT,PHILLIP, 6395 1D
01TR009751 -ROEDER,SHAWN,P,, N/A 1D
00SC000500 -ROEDER,SHAWN,P, N/A 2P
03TR002908 -ROEDER,SHAWN,P, N/A 1D


http://www.shawneecourt.org/doe/search.jsp?caseNumber=96CR+01251&location=internet

6/21/1996 - After consideration of the P.S.I., statutory factors and arguments of counsel, the Court pronounces the following sentence: The Court finds the defendant's criminal history classification is I. Criminal history as shown in the P.S.I. is uncontroverted. Sentenced to custody of Sec. of Corrections as follows: Ct 1 a term of 16 months. Post Release supervision period is 24 months. Defendant shall receive credit for time served as provided by law. Departure factors: The Court makes durational and departure. Departure factors 1) defendant has indicated lack of respect for laws of State of Kansas, uncertain if will conform conduct and follow probation or direction of Court. 2) defendant poses significant threat to safety of community if he doe not conform behavior. The Court suspends execution of sentence of imprisonment and places defendant on 24 months supervised parole after serving timeserved days. Supervision by Community Corrections/ISP with the following conditions: a) You shall pay: Ct Costs $129.50, Probation $50.00, Atty Fee $500.00, Fines: Count 2 - $100; Couunt 3 - $100; Colunt 4 - $20. a) All supervised probation is subject to the District Courts Standard Conditions of Probation set forth in DCR 3.308 which the Court directs be incorporated into your order of probation, a copy will be provided to you by Court Services. b) Other Special Conditions: 1)ISP agreement; 2)not associate with persons or groups advocating violence and disregard or disrespect of laws of Kansas or involved in manufacturing of bombs; 3)obey all laws of State of Kansas, including drivers license, proper registration and insurance for automobile. Defendant advised of right to appeal conviction and sentence forma pauperis. . . .

07/08/1997 - The Court finds deendant has violated the terms and conditions of probation, 1) failure to remain law abiding citizen, 2) failure to follow directives of probation officer and 3) failure to maintain full time employment. Probation revoked. SENTENCE: After hearing statements from counsel and defendant and offering allocution, the Court finds the deendant should be sentenced to the custody of the Secretary of Corrections for a term of 16 months.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #71
156. well known for his criminal records why wasn't this guy locked up?
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #63
140. a sovereign citizen and tax protester,
Oh, y'mean a "teabagger"....
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #56
119. Anyone else think this arrest probably thwarted a planned earlier attack on Tiller?
I can't think of anything else getting bombed around Kansas in recent memory aside from abortion clinics. And Dr. Tiller's was the most notorious in the state.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #17
117. yup, same guy. WIchita Eagle reports that
Roeder has a prior conviction on criminal explosives charges, overturned on appeal.

http://www.kansas.com/news/breaking/story/833730.html

The perp's name reminds me of another Kansas monster, Dennis Rader (aka BTK). Another fine, upstanding Xtian.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
151. Shit.
:scared:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:37 PM
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20. Operation Rescue is a terrorist organization
it would seem to me. Wonder if those who donate to it can be harassed like Muslims are for supporting Palestinian charities?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #20
62. And can we complain to the pope that part of his church is aiding and
abetting murderers again.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:38 PM
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21. And these posters on the site are guilty by association:
Edited on Sun May-31-09 05:45 PM by Mrs. Overall
Lisa M. Berg Says:
April 6th, 2007 at 8:53 am
Has Bill O’Reilly been invited to any of the Tiller events and if so what has been his reply? Has Fox news covered any of the events?

Gail Banker Armstrong Says:
April 12th, 2007 at 7:01 am
I agree with Lisa…Bill O’Reilly should be invited to attend one of these events…His support is important.
It is a wonderful idea to have this event when it is not snowing (hopfully!)
Peace…

Paul McGregor Says:
May 8th, 2007 at 7:10 am
You have support in UK to, where circumstances are even worse. I will be praying with you on these days.

Christobel Says:
May 13th, 2007 at 9:58 am
hi i’m from malaysia. I was doing doing some research for my assignment and came across this website. Would definitely be with you in prayer especially on these days.

Bill McKean Says:
May 14th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
The Wichita Eagle, the Daily Oklahoman and the Poynter Institute are sponsoring a regional conference for journalists “National Writer’s Workshop” at the Wichita Hyatt on May 19 & 20.

Too bad O’Reilly can’t fly out for the prayer vigil and for the writer’s conference to discuss the culture wars with the regional media. After all O’Reilly has stated that the Wichita Eagle is the worst newspaper in the US.

The website address is:

http://www.kansas.com/nww

Linda Cramer -Wich., KS Says:
May 16th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Thank you to all who are supporting us in prayer. Your comments are encouraging. Let’s all pray for what seems impossible!! O Sovereign LORD! You have made the heavens and earth by your great power. Nothing is too hard for you! Jeremiah 32:17

Ric Dugan Says:
May 16th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
May our LORD and SAVIOR , JESUS CHRIST, BLESS and PROTECT FROM THE SNARES of the evil one, all who participate this weekend in the “Pray in May” prayer vigil sponsored by OR, and May the Lord Bless and protect the lives of all the staff at OR. Amen!

WE LOVE U JESUS !

:)

Y’all Remain Blessed,
Bro Ric

The Kinneys Says:
May 18th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Coming up from Tulsa on Saturday to pray.There are only two of us, but better than none. “Where two or more are gathered, He will be in the midst”, right ? God has Tiller’s number and it won’t be long now.But God expects us to be accountable and pray and do what we can. OR, we pray for you too and thankyou for your hard work and commitment. Never give up!!!!

Scott Roeder Says:
May 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp.
Sometime soon, would it be feasible to organize as many people as possible to attend Tillers church (inside, not just outside) to have much more of a presence and possibly ask questions of the Pastor, Deacons, Elders and members while there? Doesn’t seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller.

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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #21
114. It appears the Kinney's knew something
The Kinneys Says:
May 18th, 2007 at 2:46 pm

"God has Tiller's number and it won't be long now."

The next day Roeder replies:

"Bleass everyone for attending and praying in May to bring justice to Tiller and the closing of his death camp."

The prayer meeting in May would be something to investigate.

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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #114
135. Excellent catch! I read through this quickly and didn't see that.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:39 PM
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22. Nice catch
I'm sure we'll find more on this scum, but tying him to Operation Rescue is damning.
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pkdu Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:43 PM
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26. Just your average hate-filled freeper with a criminal record...see below
http://www.adl.org/MWD/cocv1n3.asp

<snip>

(1997) July 7, Kansas: Scott Roeder is sentenced to sixteen months in state prison for parole violations following a 1996 conviction for having bomb components in his car trunk. Roeder, a sovereign citizen and tax protester, violated his parole by not filing tax returns or providing his social security number to his employer.

<snip>
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:44 PM
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31. You mean "terrorist" right?
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:44 PM
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30. Great. The US attorney needs to go after those jerks
Using the RICO laws. Now he or she has the ammunition.

My own obstetrician was killed by an Anti-Choice zealot. They're terrorists, by any definition of the word.

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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:47 PM
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32. This needs a media blast
We can't count on them to do the necessary research.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:52 PM
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33. Found his comments on an online petition to prosecute Tiller, as well:
Edited on Sun May-31-09 05:55 PM by blonndee
Kansas City
Missouri Scott Roeder
Mon September 03, 2007, 09:49:40
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It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the "lawlessness" which is spoken of in the Bible. Tiller is the concentration camp "Mengele" of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgement upon our nation.

http://www.chargetiller.com/petition.html?jne19e75ff=70#jotnave19e75ff978adf5f2f83737fafec6bd3

Edited to add a second signature from March 2007 with his name:

Kansas City
Missouri Scott Roeder
Tue March 13, 2007, 20:26:48
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PUT THIS MONSTER TILLER BEHIND BARS WHERE HE CAN'T MURDER ANY MORE OF OUR MOST INNOCENT UNBORN BABIES, WHO HAVE NO VOICE!!! WHERE ARE THE WILBERFORCES WHO WILL SCREAM OUT UNTIL THIS INJUSTICE RESTS ?!!! AS THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID, "I TREMBLE THAT OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS JUST AND THAT HIS JUSTICE WILL NOT WAIT FOREVER!!! PUT THIS HEINOUS BUTCHER BEHIND PRISON WALLS IN HOPES THAT THIS NATIONS' JUDGEMENT WILL STAVED OFF. ONE OF THE SEVEN THINGS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER HATES IS THE SHEDDING OF INNOCENT BLOOD !!! HEAVEN HELP US !!! US !!!

http://www.chargetiller.com/petition.html?jne19e75ff=576#jotnave19e75ff978adf5f2f83737fafec6bd3
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:57 PM
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35. Good catch.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:06 PM
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68. Sam Brownback (R-KS): Wilberforce Republican
Edited on Sun May-31-09 07:41 PM by Snazzy
...

A March 2006 article in The Economist first named Mr. Brownback a “Wilberforce Republican,” referring to his faith-grounded efforts to end human trafficking, fight genocide and AIDS in Africa and to reform prisons.

The Kansas senator is running with the association. Two weeks ago, he introduced a bill to honor the British abolitionist, and today, he will participate in a panel discussion following a screening of “Amazing Grace” in Los Angeles.

.....

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/02/22/sam-brownback-wilberforce-republican/

(Was wondering what Wilberforce meant and if it leads anywhere)
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:47 PM
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110. As in, "I didn't want to snort the crystalmeth, but Wilberforced me."
You mean, that kind of Wilberforce?
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:11 PM
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113. cue banjo music...
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:58 AM
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126. Thanks!
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:03 PM
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105. There is a damning comment if I have ever seen one.
"It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the "lawlessness" which is spoken of in the Bible. Tiller is the concentration camp "Mengele" of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgement upon our nation"

I am sure more and more will come along, even with the scrubbing going on. This is one of the best things about DU. The amazingly smart people who do tremendously relevant research in no time at all. Great catch! That could very well end up as evidence.
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create.peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 05:55 PM
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34. well, we are going to the candlelight vigil, in wichita.....
which not only because of it happening here of course, has a huge operation rescue contingent here still. it is about 2 hours away, but it just seems necessary.

a number of groups have emailed me about it dfa, democratic party, etc.

Candlelight vigil to honor George Tiller set for tonight in Wichita
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The Wichita Eagle

BY SUZANNE PEREZ TOBIAS

A candlelight vigil has been scheduled for 8 p.m. today at Old Town Square to show support for George Tiller's family and to oppose violence.

Dustin Deckard, 20, organized the vigil and is hoping it will be "a quiet show of support for Dr. Tiller and a moment to remember his medical and political triumphs."

Deckard, who supports abortion rights, called today's shooting of Tiller "akin to the murder of Harvey Milk," an openly gay California politician who was shot to death in 1978.

"With the situation today, I think that what side people are on is the last thing we should be arguing about," Deckard said. "The death of people's loved one is more important today than any political alignment."

Deckard is spreading word of tonight's vigil through Twitter, a microblog service, and other social networking tools. Questions about the vigil should be directed to [email protected].

Old Town Square is at Second and Mead streets.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:00 PM
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36. UPDATE: Another post by Scott Roeder
http://www.chargetiller.com/petition.html?jne19e75ff=70#jotnave19e75ff978adf5f2f83737fafec6bd3

Scott Roeder
Mon September 03, 2007, 09:49:40
It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the "lawlessness" which is spoken of in the Bible. Tiller is the concentration camp "Mengele" of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgement upon our nation.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:03 PM
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37. Sounds a little like Osama bin Laden after 9/11...
He thanked his brave brothers for tearing down the symbol of world trade and exploitation, the WTC. He congratulated them. Then he took credit for it. Sounds familiar to me.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:37 AM
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123. They should be listed as a terrorist organization. Like Green Peace.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:03 PM
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38. UPDATE #2: Yet another Roeder post
http://www.chargetiller.com/petition.html?jne19e75ff=576#jotnave19e75ff978adf5f2f83737fafec6bd3

Scott Roeder
Tue March 13, 2007, 20:26:48
PUT THIS MONSTER TILLER BEHIND BARS WHERE HE CAN'T MURDER ANY MORE OF OUR MOST INNOCENT UNBORN BABIES, WHO HAVE NO VOICE!!! WHERE ARE THE WILBERFORCES WHO WILL SCREAM OUT UNTIL THIS INJUSTICE RESTS ?!!! AS THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID, "I TREMBLE THAT OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS JUST AND THAT HIS JUSTICE WILL NOT WAIT FOREVER!!! PUT THIS HEINOUS BUTCHER BEHIND PRISON WALLS IN HOPES THAT THIS NATIONS' JUDGEMENT WILL STAVED OFF. ONE OF THE SEVEN THINGS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER HATES IS THE SHEDDING OF INNOCENT BLOOD !!! HEAVEN HELP US !!! US !!!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:17 PM
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41. What a dumbass. Doesn't even get the quote right.
"If God is just, I tremble for my country."
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:19 PM
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43. What are the other six things our Heavenly Father hates?
I'm fairly certain one of them is wearing white shoes after Labor Day.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:59 PM
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65. Jefferson and Our Heavenly Father? That does not sound like Jefferson. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:11 PM
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69. It isn't
The guy mangled the original Jefferson quote. "If God is truly just, I tremble for the fate our country."

Right wingers mangle things from the Bible, why not Jefferson? They can't get anything right.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:05 PM
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39. Anyone have a middle initial for the suspected Scott Roeder?
Or town of residence? Don't want to falsely accuse anyone here. There are several Scott Roeder's in Kansas.

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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:32 PM
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51. middle name is Phillip
According to Court records
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:16 PM
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40. Good thread.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:19 PM
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42. anyone send this to any news organizations??? nt
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:06 PM
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106. I will be, though I am sure I will not be close to the first.
Bookmarked for later additions. Great thread.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:21 PM
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44. K & R
:grr:
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:23 PM
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45. Google search
tiller site:freerepublic.com

There is some creepy stuff being scrubbed there as well.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:23 PM
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47. Zaba Search:
IDENTIFICATION Scott Philip Roeder
WHITE M
SOURCE: Kansas
DOB: 02/25/1958

PROFILE INFO
WEIGHT: 230LBS
EYE COLOR: HAZEL
HAIR COLOR: BROWN

OFFENSE DETAILS
CASE NUMBER: 96CR1251 - Confirm Case at the Courthouse
COUNTY CHARGED: SHAWNEE COUNTY STATE CODE: KS
OFFENSE ID: KS_DOC651921 OFFENSE DATE: 04/16/1996
OFFENSE CLASS: FELONY OFFENSE COUNTY: SHAWNEE COUNTY
OFFENSE: CRIMINAL USE OF EXPLOSIVES

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:33 PM
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52. Details on his Shawnee County court cases. What a LOSER:
Edited on Sun May-31-09 06:36 PM by Hissyspit
http://www.shawneecourt.org/doe/search.jsp?last=ROEDER&first=S&ALL=Y&close=&location=internet

Hat Tip to pkdu.

Case Number: 96CR 01251

Plaintiff: STATE OF KANSAS,,, Attorney: HAMILTON,JOAN,M,
Defendant: ROEDER,SCOTT,P, Attorney: KUNEN,JESSICA,,,
Division: CR
Next Activity: None
04/17/1996 - Case filed on 04/17/96 Affidavit closed for examination. Arrest Report # 96-05215 ;SNSO
04/17/1996 - Charge #1 - 1 ct. CRIMINAL USE OF EXPLOSIVES filed on 04/17/96.
04/17/1996 - Charge #2 - 1 ct. DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED - FIRST CONVICTION filed on 04/17/96.
04/17/1996 - Charge #3 - 1 ct. ILLEGAL REGISTRATION filed on 04/17/96.
04/17/1996 - Charge #4 - 1 ct. NO LIABILITY INSURANCE VIOLATIONS filed on 04/17/96.
04/17/1996 - Warrant issued as to SCOTT P ROEDER
04/17/1996 - SET - Docket on 04/19/96 at 09:00AM. in division CR.
04/17/1996 - Court appoints: PUBLIC DEFENDER,,,. JMM
04/17/1996 - BOND SCREEN FORM FILED
04/18/1996 - Warrant returned, personal service - as to SCOTT P ROEDER 04/17/96
04/18/1996 - SET - Preliminary Hearing on 05/02/96 at 01:30PM. in division CR.
04/18/1996 - Notice sent.
04/22/1996 - OJA case filing entered. Case source: 1.
04/22/1996 - Order Appointing Counsel, Application for Appointed Defense Services and Financial Affidavit filed. JMM
04/22/1996 - #1 Motion filed and entered by RON EVANS. FOR REDUCTION OF BOND
04/29/1996 - Subpoena issued and given to the District Attorney to be served on SGT LARRY CRADY, DEP MORGAN, DET HOLLADAY, DET. BYERS, LARRY COLLINS, TRO JONES
04/29/1996 - Subpoena returned residence service as to LARRY COLLINS C/O MTAA
04/29/1996 - Subpoena issued and given to the District Attorney to be served on DEP JACK MORGAN.
04/30/1996 - Subpoena returned no service as to DEP LARRY MORGAN
04/30/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DEP JACK MORGAN.
04/30/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to SGT LARRY CRADY.
04/30/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DET SCOTT HOLLADAY.
05/01/1996 - Subpoena issued and given to the District Attorney to be served on SPECIAL AGENT J CARLSON C/O ATF.
05/01/1996 - Subpoena returned residence service as to SPECIAL AGENT J CARLSON C/O ATF
05/01/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to CINDY TIBBITS C/O SNSO.
05/02/1996 - SET - Jury Trial on 06/03/96 at 09:00AM. in division CR.
05/02/1996 - Notice sent.
05/02/1996 - Notice sent.
05/02/1996 - PREL. HRG. State by James Brown and Joan Hamilton, defendant appears in person and by counsel Ron Evans. Reporter Esther Thompson. The Court finds a crime was committed and probable cause to believe the deft. committed crime(s) charged and deft. is bound over for trial on. Misd. counts certified for trial. The Deft. waives formal arraignment. The Court enters plea(s) of not guilty on each count. Deft. and all counsel ordered to appear for Pre-Trial Conference in Div. CR on MAY 24, 1996, AT 02:30PM. and Jury Trial on JUNE 3, 1996, AT 09:00AM. Conditions of bond remain the same. JPB.
05/06/1996 - SET - Pre-trial on 05/24/96 at 02:30PM. in division CR.
05/06/1996 - Notice sent.
05/06/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DET TIM BYERS.
05/16/1996 - ORDER FOR TRANSCRIPT FILED. JPB.
05/20/1996 - Subpoena issued and given to the District Attorney to be served on OFFICER C TIBBITS,CURTIS WAGERS C/O CSST,JAMES. CODER,JOHN ROEDER,DET MIKE RAMIREZ,DEP LANCE ROYER,SPECIAL AGT JIM CARLSON C/O ATF,CINDY TIBBITS,KHP TROOPER JOHN JONES C/O KHP,LARRY COLLINS C/O MTAA,DET TIM BYERS C/O SNSO, DET SCOTT HOLLADAY C/O SNSO,DEP JACK MORGAN C/O SNSO,SGT LARRY CRADY C/O SNSO
05/22/1996 - Subpoena returned residence service as to TROOPER JOHN JONES C/O KHP Subpoena returned residence service as to LARRY COLLINS FAXED
05/22/1996 - Subpoena returned residence service as to SPECIAL AGT JIM CARLSON FAXED
05/23/1996 - Subpoena returned residence service as to CURTIS WAGERS C/O CSST
05/23/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DET SCOTT HOLLADAY.
05/23/1996 - #2 Motion filed and entered by RONALD EVANS. TO SUPRESS
05/24/1996 - SET - Motion Hearing on 05/29/96 at 09:00AM. in division 05. Motion to Suppress Hearing
05/24/1996 - Notice sent.
05/24/1996 - Transcript of Preliminary Hearing filed.
05/24/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DET TIM BYERS.
05/24/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to CINDY TIBBITS.
05/24/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to OFFICER C TIBBITS.
05/28/1996 - Subpoena returned residence service as to JOHN ROEDER
05/28/1996 - Subpoena returned residence service as to JAMES CODER
05/28/1996 - Brief in support of motion to suppress evidence filed by Ronald Evans.
05/28/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DEP JACK MORGAN.
05/28/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DEP LANCE ROYER.
05/28/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to SGT LARRY CRADY.
05/29/1996 - STATE'S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SUPRESS FILED.
05/30/1996 - Ruling on motion# 2. ---Motion to Suppress OVERRULED per MD&O filed. JMM
05/30/1996 - MEMORANDUM DECISION AND ORDER FILED. JMM.
05/30/1996 - Subpoena returned personal service as to DET MIKE RAMIREZ.
05/31/1996 - #4 MOTION FILED AND ENTERED BY RON EVANS. TO RECONSIDER RULING OF ORDER OVERRULING SUPPRESSION MOTION.
06/03/1996 - State by James Brown and Joan Hamilton. Defendant in person and with Ron Evans, his attorney. Esther Thompson, reporter Defendant waives jury trial and stipulates to preliminary hearing transcript. The defendant enters stipulation to P.H. transcript. After inquiry the Court reviews evidence and finds the defendant guilty on all four counts as charged. Sentencing set for 6/21/96 at 10:00 a.m. in Div. 12. JPB
06/03/1996 - SET - Sentencing on 06/21/96 at 10:00AM. in division 12.
06/03/1996 - #3 Motion filed and entered by RON EVANS. FOR BOND REDUCTION.
06/05/1996 - OJA case termination filed on 06/03/96.
06/12/1996 - #5 Motion filed and entered by JOAN M HAMILTON. FOR DISPOSITIONAL AND DURATIONAL DEPARTURE
06/18/1996 - Ruling on motion# 4 Motion to reconsider suppression motion is denied. JPB
06/20/1996 - MEMORANDUM DECISION AND ORDER FILED. JPB
06/21/1996 - SENTENCING. State by James Brown, defendant appears in person and by counsel Ron Evans. Reporter Esther Thompson. Allocution offered to the defendant. After consideration of the P.S.I., statutory factors and arguments of counsel, the Court pronounces the following sentence: The Court finds the defendant's criminal history classification is I. Criminal history as shown in the P.S.I. is uncontroverted. Sentenced to custody of Sec. of Corrections as follows: Ct 1 a term of 16 months. Post Release supervision period is 24 months. Defendant shall receive credit for time served as provided by law. Departure factors: The Court makes durational and departure. Departure factors 1) defendant has indicated lack of respect for laws of State of Kansas, uncertain if will conform conduct and follow probation or direction of Court. 2) defendant poses significant threat to safety of community if he doe not conform behavior. The Court suspends execution of sentence of imprisonment and places defendant on 24 months supervised parole after serving timeserved days. Supervision by Community Corrections/ISP with the following conditions: a) You shall pay: Ct Costs $129.50, Probation $50.00, Atty Fee $500.00, Fines: Count 2 - $100; Couunt 3 - $100; Colunt 4 - $20. a) All supervised probation is subject to the District Courts Standard Conditions of Probation set forth in DCR 3.308 which the Court directs be incorporated into your order of probation, a copy will be provided to you by Court Services. b) Other Special Conditions: 1)ISP agreement; 2)not associate with persons or groups advocating violence and disregard or disrespect of laws of Kansas or involved in manufacturing of bombs; 3)obey all laws of State of Kansas, including drivers license, proper registration and insurance for automobile. Defendant advised of right to appeal conviction and sentence forma pauperis. JPB.
06/21/1996 - CUSTODY SLIP FILED. JPB (PROBATION)
06/28/1996 - Notice of Appeal filed by RON EVANS for DEFENDANT, to the APPELLATE Court. MF 070296
07/01/1996 - ORDER OF PROBATION FILED;JPB MICROFILMED 070296
07/02/1996 - REQUEST FOR TRANSSCRIPT FILED BY RONALD EVANS.
07/03/1996 - Order Appointing Counsel filed and approved. JMM Court appoints: KUNEN,JESSICA,,,. JMM MICROFILMED 070596
07/05/1996 - Sentencing Guideline Packet Filed And Distributed JPB
07/09/1996 - COMPLETE CASE FILE FILMED THIS DATE
07/15/1996 - Abstract of Conviction sent to DMV
07/26/1996 - $50.00 Cash recd from ROEDER,SCOTT,P, (50.00 CR Docket Fee)
08/08/1996 - APPELLANT'S REQUEST FOR ADDITIONS TO THE APPELLATE RECORD
08/08/1996 - ORDER FOR TRANSCRIPT FILED BY APPELLATE DEFENDER
08/08/1996 - SET - Show Cause on 08/09/96 at 11:30AM. in division 12.
08/09/1996 - CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF TRANSCRIPT FILED BY SUSANNA HASTINGS TRANSCRIPT OF MOTION TO SUPPRESS
08/09/1996 - State by James Brown; defendant by Ron Evans; hearing on parole revocation. Evidence is presented by the State. On Aug. 12, 1996 evidence is presented by the defendant. The Court finds that defendant's parole should not be revoked. JPB
08/13/1996 - Custody Slip filed. JPB PROBATION
08/14/1996 - LETTER TO JUDGE BUCHELE FROM STEVE JEANNERET RE:DEFT FILED.
08/14/1996 - TRANSCRIPT OF SENTENCING, HELD JUNE 21, 1996 FILED
08/14/1996 - TRANSCRIPT OF STIPULATION, HELD JUNE 3, 1996 FILED
08/23/1996 - Card from the Clerk of the APPELLATE Court; they have received and filed the Notice of Appeal - Case No. 9677298-A MF 9-6-96
09/09/1996 - Completed Table of Contents and mailed to attorneys; APPELLATE DEFENDER AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY
06/26/1997 - Motion for Order to Show Cause filed. Statement of Probation Officer filed. Order to Show Cause filed and approved, issued 07/02/97 CEA
06/30/1997 - ORDER TO WAIVE COURT COSTS AND ATTORNEY FEES FILED. JPB
07/02/1997 - Warrant issued as to SCOTT P ROEDER
07/07/1997 - Warrant returned, personal service - as to SCOTT P ROEDER 07/03/97
07/07/1997 - Bond set at $270.00/CA. - CEA. S/C 071097 AT 09;30AM. UPON RELEASE, REPORT TO YOUR ASSIGNED ISP OFFICER AND AS DIRECTED. CEA
07/08/1997 - SET - Show Cause on 07/10/97 at 09:30AM. in division CR.
07/08/1997 - Notice sent.
07/08/1997 - SHOW CAUSE HEARING: State by James Brown; defendant present and by Al Bandy; ISP Officer Steve Jeanerette. The Court finds deendant has violated the terms and conditions of probation, 1) failure to remain law abiding citizen, 2) failure to follow directives of probation officer and 3) failure to maintain full time employment. Probation revoked. SENTENCE: After hearing statements from counsel and defendant and offering allocution, the Court finds the deendant should be sentenced to the custody of the Secretary of Corrections for a term of 16 months. Defendant to receive credit for time served. JPB
07/09/1997 - Custody Slip filed. JPB (RELEASE TO SEC OF CORR)
07/10/1997 - ORDER TO WAIVE COSTS. JPB
07/10/1997 - ORDER TO WAIVE COSTS MICROFILMED ON 7-11-97.
07/11/1997 - Journal Entry of Hearing on Motion to Revoke or Modify Probation filed. JPB.
07/11/1997 - SENTENCING. State by Jams Brown, defendant appears in person and by counsel Al Bandy. Reporter Esther Thompson. Allocution offered to the defendant. After consideration of the P.S.I., statutory factors and arguments of counsel, the Court pronounces the following sentence: The Court finds the defendant's criminal history classification is I. Criminal history as shown in the P.S.I. is uncontroverted. Sentenced to custody of Sec. of Corrections as follows: Ct 1 a term of 16 months. Post Release supervision period is 24 months. Defendant shall receive credit for time served as provided by law. Departure factors: Departure factors stated on the record at time of original sentence Defendant advised of right to appeal conviction and sentence forma pauperis. JPB.
07/17/1997 - Notice of Appeal filed by ALBERT BANDY for SCOTT P ROEDER, to the APPELLATE Court.
07/17/1997 - (NOTICE OF APPEAL MICROFILMED ON 7-21-97.)
07/18/1997 - Sentencing Guideline Packet returned filed and served.
07/29/1997 - Received from the Supreme Court of the State of Kansas, a request to transmit the Record on Appeal to Clerk of the Appellate Courts. MF 8/1/97
07/29/1997 - HAND CARRIED RECORD ON APPEAL TO THE CLERK OF THE APPELLATE COURT 07/30/97. MF 8/1/97
11/21/1997 - #6 Motion filed and entered by SCOTT ROEDER (DEFENDANT). TO CORRECT JOURNAL ENTRY NUNC PRO TUNC
11/21/1997 - FORMA PAUPERIS AFFIDAVIT FILED BY DEFENDANT SCOTT ROEDER. AFFIDAVIT FILED BY DEFENDANT SCOTT ROEDER.
12/03/1997 - SET - Motion Hearing on 12/19/97 at 09:30AM. in division CR.
12/03/1997 - Notice sent.
12/19/1997 - State appears by counsel Gwynn Harris. Cont. until 1-9-98 at 9:30 a.m. for DA to check the Journal Entry. TRC
12/19/1997 - SET - Motion Hearing on 01/09/98 at 09:30AM. in division CR.
12/19/1997 - Notice sent.
01/09/1998 - State appears by counsel James Brown. Motion #6 denied. TRC
03/23/1998 - Mandate from the APPELLATE Court filed. Judgment of District Court, REVERSED/REMANDED. MEMORANDUM attached.
03/24/1998 - Order to transport filed. JPB. Issued 03/24/98.
03/26/1998 - Bond set at $1,000.00/OR. - JPB.
03/27/1998 - Bond posted: $1,000.00/OR. Surety: ROEDER,SCOTT,P,. Date to appear: 11/11/11 - JPB.
03/27/1998 - ORDER TO VACATE SENTENCE (REGARDING COUNT ONE ONLY) JPB
03/30/1998 - Order to Transport returned filed served.
04/01/1998 - Appeal record returned from the Appellate Court on 04/01/98.
04/01/1998 - Index checked. Listed documents returned from the Appellate Court; see below: VOLUMES 1,2,3,4, & 5.
02/09/1999 - SET - Hearing on 03/02/99 at 09:45AM. in division 13.
02/09/1999 - Notice sent.
03/02/1999 - State appears by counsel James Brown. Defendant appears not but by counsel Cindy Sewell. Reporter-J.Cuevas. State dismisses count 1. Remainder of counts resolved. Case is disposed of. TRC
03/02/1999 - Charge #1 - 1 counts of CRIMINAL USE OF EXPLOSIVES dismissed.


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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #52
60. News article on his 1996 arrest:
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19960417&slug=2324642

Suspected Freeman Arrested With Bomb Fuse

AP
TOPEKA, Kan. - A man identified by the FBI as a member of the anti-government Freemen group was arrested yesterday after deputies found what they called a bomb-triggering device in his car.

Scott Roeder, 38, of Silver Lake, Kan., was arrested in Topeka and held on charges of criminal use of explosives, driving with a suspended license and failure to carry registration and insurance.

Roeder was stopped because his car didn't have a legitimate license plate. Instead, it had a tag indicating the driver was a "sovereign" citizen and immune from Kansas law.

The same type of tag is sometimes used by Freemen, whose members in Montana are in the fourth week of a standoff with federal agents.

MORE



Hat tip to proud2BlibKansan!

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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #60
73. One year almost to the day after the Oklahoma City bombing
I remember that McVeigh got his bomb materials from McPherson, Kansas, not far from Wichita.

Is there any chance there's a connection? :shrug:



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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #73
93. elsewhere saw Montana Freeman standoff was going on
when he got arrested (they didn't have link in that story or would post it)

Refresher on that:


Five Montana Freemen were found guilty today on criminal charges in the first trial resulting from an 81-day standoff in 1996 between the anti-Government militants and the F.B.I.

The jury acquitted Edwin F. Clark, 47, former owner of the foreclosed farm that made up most of the Freemen stronghold. Mr. Clark's lawyer had argued he had been desperate to save the farm and swept up in events.

Four of the Freemen were convicted of being accessories in the armed holdup of an ABC television news crew attempting to film a story on the Freemen. They were Steven C. Hance, 48, and his sons, James E. Hance, 25, and John R. Hance, 21, all of Charlotte, N.C., and Jon Barry Nelson, 42, of Marion, Kan. The Hances were also convicted of being fugitives in possession of firearms.

Elwin Ward, 57, of Salt Lake City, was found innocent of being an accessory to any crimes committed by other Freemen, but was convicted of submitting a false claim to the Internal Revenue Service.

The six were secondary figures in the standoff. The trial of the Freemen leaders is to begin on May 26.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/01/us/national-news-briefs-five-montana-freemen-convicted-in-standoff.html

Freemen, FBI standoff drags on
Lessons of Waco put into practice

March 28, 1996
Web posted at: 12:30 a.m. EST

BILLINGS, Montana (CNN) -- Negotiations between the FBI and 10 anti-government militants dragged through a third day Wednesday with no sign of a breakthrough. The fugitives, members of the "freemen" group, are armed and are holding federal authorities at bay outside a remote farm house in Montana.
Post

The group refuses to pay taxes or be evicted from the property, which was foreclosed upon 18 months ago. They have even posted bounties for the capture of police and judges, and threatened to shoot their neighbors' sheep and cattle.

Two members of the group were arrested Wednesday without incident, even though both were carrying loaded guns. Both were indicted a year ago on federal charges for writing bad checks and threatening a judge's life.

According to court papers filed Wednesday, an FBI sting operation led to the arrests of the two, freemen leader LeRoy Schweitzer and member Daniel Petersen. Schweitzer allegedly gave FBI agent Timothy Healy a bogus "comptroller's warrant" for $3 million, in return for the profits from selling imports bought with the $3 million. He stood to gain $1 million in cash from the operation, the FBI said.

Lavon T. Hanson was also arrested in connection with the FBI sting. He allegedly agreed to transport illegally-earned funds from Los Angeles to Montana in a conversation between Schweitzer, Healy, and Hanson on March 25. Based on that conversation, the complaint said, the FBI believed that "Hanson understood the entire scheme, including his role as pilot transporting funds."

...

"They talk about Christian patriotism. Viewers should know it's an inherently racist view -- beliefs there are different rights for white Christian folks and for blacks, Jews, and for others," said Kenneth Stern, author of "A Force Upon the Plains." "Terry Nichols, who is charged with the Oklahoma City bombing, did the same thing that the freemen folks are talking about."

....

http://www.cnn.com/US/9603/montana_freemen/28/index.html
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #52
81. wonder how it got dismissed on appeal? n/t
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #52
121. Wife divorced him right after that in Johnson County

Johnson County Kansas District Court
CASE NO 96CV05915 ROEDER vs. ROEDER
Div/Judge 7/DAVID W. HAUBER
Chapter 60D
Nature DISSOLUTION/DIVORCE ACTION
Status CASE TERMINATED

05/09/2005 FILE STAMP 5/3/2005, NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF IV-D SERVICES
05/05/2005 FILE STAMP 4/28/2005, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING, (CASE CLOSED;BENCH WARRANT STAYED IS SET ASIDE)
03/31/2005 FILE STAMP 3/28/2005, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING, (B/W OF 1-19-05 STAYED UNTIL 4-21-05 AT 3:00PM;BOND $115.19 CASH ONLY)
03/08/2005 FILE STAMP 3/3/2005, JUDGMENT FORM FOR HEARING OFFICER, (RESP'S MOTION TO TERMINATE CHILD SUPPORT IS GRANTED)
03/02/2005 FILE STAMP 2/23/2005, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM JO CO KS, SERVED LINDSEY ANN ROEDER 2/16/05 C/S
02/15/2005 SHERIFF'S FEE OF $5.00 COLLECTED.
02/15/2005 FILE STAMP 2/15/2005, REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM###MOTION ISSUED TO SHERIFF OF JO CO KS###
02/15/2005 FILE STAMP 2/15/2005, MOTION FOR TERMINATION OF CHILD SUPPORT & NOTICE OF HEARING 2-23-05 AT 10:30 AM
01/27/2005 FILE STAMP 1/21/2005, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING, (BENCH WARRANT TO ISSUE;STAYED; BOND $500 C/S;HEARING 3-23-05 AT 3:30PM)
12/08/2004 FILE STAMP 11/23/04, FILM DATE 11/23/04 MICR # 131, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (HEARING 1-19-05 AT 2:00PM)
10/18/2004 FILE STAMP 10/13/04, FILM DATE 10/13/04 MICR # 1004, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (HEARING 11-17-04 AT 2:00 PM;NO IWO TO ISSUE)
09/22/2004 FILE STAMP 09/20/04, FILM DATE 09/20/04 MICR # 507, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (CONT'D 10/06/04 1:30)
07/21/2004 FILE STAMP 07/19/04, FILM DATE 07/19/04 MICR # 228, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (IWO TO ISSUE;HEARING 9-15-04 AT 3:30 PM)
06/01/2004 FILE STAMP 05/28/04, FILM DATE 05/28/04 MICR # 307, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (HEARING 7-14-04 AT 4:00 PM)
04/28/2004 FILE STAMP 04/26/04, FILM DATE 04/26/04 MICR # 214, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM WY CO KS; SERVED SCOTT ROEDER 04-20-04 C/S
04/07/2004 FILE STAMP 04/06/04, FILM DATE 04/06/04 MICR # 103, MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR ORDER TO APPEAR AND ORDER TO APPEAR FOR EXPEDITED HEARING; REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM.....MOTION, AFFIDAVIT AND ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO SHERIFF WYANDOTTE CO, KS.###
02/20/2003 FILE STAMP 02/19/03, FILM DATE 02/19/03 MICR # 695, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING ( HEARING SET FOR 2-13-03 IS DISMISSED; CSTC; B/W SET ASIDE)
12/18/2002 FILE STAMP 12/16/02, FILM DATE 12/16/02 MICR # 494, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (B/W STAYED UNTIL HEARING 2-13-03 AT 2:00 PM; BOND SET $500 C/S)
12/05/2002 FILE STAMP 11/18/02, FILM DATE 11/18/02 MICR # 440, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (HEARING 12-12-02 AT 2:00 PM;IWO IN EFFECT)
10/29/2002 FILE STAMP 10/21/02, FILM DATE 10/21/02 MICR # 490, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM WY CO KS; SERVED SCOTT ROEDER 10-8-02 C/S
10/04/2002 FILE STAMP 10/03/02, FILM DATE 10/03/02 MICR # 764, MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR ORDER TO APPEAR AND ORDER TO APPEAR FOR EXPEDITED HEARING; REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM.....MOTION, AFFIDAVIT AND ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO SHERIFF OF WY CO KS
07/01/2002 <******* Bench Notes *********>
PETITIONER APPEARS BY LAURA MCCONWELL. RESPONDENT APPEARS PRO SE. APPEARANCES ARE BY PHONE. HOME STUDY RE-ORDERED. MR. ROEDER IS ADVISED THAT IF HE DOES NOT FOLLOW THROUGH THIS TIME, IT IS UNLIKELY THE COURT WILL AGAIN ORDER A CUSTODY EVALUATION.(JUDGE: RUSSELL)
06/19/2002 FILE STAMP 06/17/02, FILM DATE 06/17/02 MICR # 503, NOTICE OF STATUS CONFERENCE (07-01-02 AT 3:30)
06/12/2002 SCHED. STATUS CONFERENCE on 07/01/02,03:30pm,Div 7
11/13/2001 FILE STAMP 11/09/01, FILM DATE 11/09/01 MICR # 510, ORDER FOR CHILD CUSTODY EVALUATION
11/09/2001 <******* Bench Notes *********>
PRO TEM JUDGE IS LEWANNA BELL-LLOYD. PETITIONER APPEARS PRO SE. RESPONDENT APPEARS PRO SE. MOTION TAKEN UNDER ADVISEMENT PENDING LIMITED HOME STUDY BY COURT SERVICES. COURT SERVICES TO INTERVIEW PARENTS AND CHILD AND OBTAIN ANY OTHER INFORMATION DEEMED RELEVANT BY COURT SERVICES. HOMESTUDY TO ADDRESS ISSUE OF SUPERVISED/UNSUPERVISED VISITATION WITH RESPONDENT. RESPONDENT TO PREPARE ORDER. MOTION SHALL BE RESCHEDULED FOR FURTHER HEARING UPON RECEIPT OF HOMESTUDY. SUPERVISED VISITATION TO CONTINUE PENDING FURTHER HEARING.(TAPE: 64/4280-64/5407)(JUDGE: PRO TEM)
10/11/2001 SCHED. MOTION on 11/09/01,10:30am,Div 7
10/11/2001 <******* Bench Notes *********>
PETITIONER APPEARS PRO SE. RESPONDENT FAILS TO APPEAR FOR HIS MOTION. MOTION CONTINUED BY AGREEMENT OF THE PARTIES TO 11-9-01 AT 10:30 A.M.(JUDGE: RUSSELL)
09/10/2001 RESCHED. MOTION on 10/11/01,01:30pm,Div 7, RESCHEDULED BY S. ROEDER
07/30/2001 FILE STAMP 07/24/01, FILM DATE 07/24/01 MICR # 521, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM JO CO KS; SERVED LINDSEY A ROEDER 07-13-01 C/S
07/30/2001 RESCHED. MOTION on 09/26/01,09:00am,Div 7, PER SCOTT ROEDER
07/16/2001 RESCHED. MOTION on 09/10/01,09:00am,Div 7, PER TELEPHONE CALL FROM S. ROEDER
07/09/2001 FILE STAMP 06/28/01, FILM DATE 06/28/01 MICR # 375, MOTION FOR UNSUPERVISED VISITATION AND NOTICE OF HEARING 07/20/01 3:00... REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM### MOTION ISSUED TO SHERIFF JO CO, KS.###
06/28/2001 SCHED. MOTION on 07/20/01,03:00pm,Div 7
04/21/2000 FILE STAMP 04/18/00, FILM DATE 04/18/00 MICR # 375, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (CONT'D SUBJ TO CALL)
02/16/2000 FILE STAMP 02/09/00, FILM DATE 02/09/00 MICR # 285, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING WARRANT SET ASIDE;CONT'D TO 4/13/00 @ 4:00
01/24/2000 FILE STAMP 01/20/00, FILM DATE 01/20/00 MICR # 542, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (WARRANT STAYED UNTIL 02/02/00 1:30)
11/24/1999 FILE STAMP 11/17/99, FILM DATE 11/17/99 MICR # 523, BENCH WARRANT RETURNED FROM JO CO KS UNEXECUTED SCOTT P. ROEDER11-12-99 C/S
11/23/1999 FILE STAMP 11/19/99, FILM DATE 11/19/99 MICR # 490, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING $500 BOND C/S STAYED TO 1/12/2000 2PM
11/17/1999 FILE STAMP 11/10/99, FILM DATE 11/10/99 MICR # 775, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (WARRANT OF 8-13-99 IS SET ASIDE AND VACATED, CASE CONT'D TO 11-10-99 @2:30)
10/12/1999 CASE CONVERTED TO JIMS
08/31/1999 FILE STAMP 08/26/99, MICR # 00099, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (WARRANT TO ISSUE; BOND $500 C/S)...BENCH WARRANT...REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM ###BENCH WARRANT ISSUED TO SHERIFF JO CO KS###
08/25/1999 FILE STAMP 08/19/99, MICR # 00617, LETTER TO COURT TRUSTEE FROM PAUL REVERE
07/15/1999 FILE STAMP 07/13/99, MICR # 00146, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (NO SERVICE ) FILE STAMP 07/13/99, MICR # 00167, MOTION FOR BENCH WARRANT FOR AVOIDING SERVICE
06/17/1999 FILE STAMP 06/16/99, MICR # 00574, SHERIFF'S RETURN JO. CO., KS. N/S SCOTT P. ROEDER 6-14-99 C/S FILE STAMP 06/16/99, MICR # 00574, SUMMONS RETURN JO. CO. KS. SERVED BY LEAVING AT RESIDENCE AND MAILING NOTICE SCOTT P. ROEDER 6-14-99 C/S
06/15/1999 FILE STAMP 06/09/99, MICR # 00349, ALIAS REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM###MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO THE SHERIFF OF JO CO KS###
05/27/1999 FILE STAMP 05/25/99, MICR # 00281, SHERIFF'S RETURN JO. CO., KS. N/S SCOTT ROEDER 05-20-99 C/S
05/13/1999 FILE STAMP 05/12/99, MICR # 00464, MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR ORDER TO APPEAR AND ORDER TO APPEAR FOR EXPEDITED HEARING....REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED. ###MOTION AFFIDAVIT & ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO JO. CO., KS. SHERIFF####
12/23/1998 FILE STAMP 12/21/98, MICR # 00246, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (BENCH WARRANT RECALLED AND SET ASIDE, CASE CONT'D SUBJECT TO CALL)
11/19/1998 PER TELEPHONE CALL FROM SCOTT ROEDER, HEARING ON MOTION FOR VISITATION IS CANCELLED. (CSR) NONE JUDGE NONE
11/03/1998 FILE STAMP 10/30/98, MICR # 00066, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (HEARING 12-17-98 3:00 PM)
10/15/1998 HEARING ON MOTION FOR NONSUPERVISED VISITATION SET FOR NOV. 30, 1998 AT 4:00 P.M. (CSR) NONE JUDGE NONE
09/02/1998 FILE STAMP 08/28/98, MICR # 00441, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (WARRANT STAYED TO 10-28-98 4PM)
07/27/1998 FILE STAMP 07/23/98, MICR # 00321, AMENDED INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER
07/17/1998 FILE STAMP 07/15/98, MICR # 00087, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM JO. CO., KS. SERVED HEARTLAND FOOD SERVICES,INC. 7-13-98 C/S
07/09/1998 FILE STAMP 07/08/98, MICR # 00234, INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER: REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED ###INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER ISSUED TO JO. CO., KS. SHERIFF##
07/06/1998 FILE STAMP 07/01/98, MICR # 00263, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (WARRANT AUTHORIZED, $500 C/S, WARRANT STAYED TO 8-27-98 1:00 AM)
06/09/1998 FILE STAMP 06/04/98, MICR # 00283, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (HEARING 6/25/98 1:30)
04/28/1998 FILE STAMP 04/27/98, MICR # 00341, ALIAS REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED ###MOTION AFFIDAVIT FOR ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO SHERIFF SHAWNEE CO KS###
04/27/1998 FILE STAMP 04/23/98, MICR # 00474, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM SN. CO., KS. NO SERVICE ON SCOTT P ROEDER 4/21/98 (NEED APT #) C/S
04/16/1998 FILE STAMP 04/14/98, MICR # 00135, MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR ORDER TO APPEAR AND ORDER TO APPEAR FOR EXPEDITED HEARING....REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED. ###MOTION AFFIDAVIT & ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO SHERIFF SHAWNEE COKS###
01/12/1998 FILE STAMP 01/09/98, MICR # 00566, JUDGMENT FORM FOR HEARING OFFICER (RESP REQUEST FOR REHEARING DENIED)
12/30/1997 FILE STAMP 12/23/97, MICR # 00764, JUDGMENT FORM FOR HEARING OFFICER (SUPPORT MODIFIED)
12/05/1997 FILE STAMP 12/01/97, MICR # 00298, NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT
12/04/1997 FILE STAMP 11/25/97, MICR # 00103, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM JO. CO., KS. SERVED LINDSAY A ROEDER 11-20-97 C/S
12/02/1997 FILE STAMP 11/19/97, MICR # 00053, MOTION FOR SUSPENSION OF CHILD SUPPORT W/NOTICE OF HEARING 12-18-97 9AM...AFFIDAVIT...REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED ###MOTION ISSUED TO PRO SE LITIGANT WHO GAVE TO SHERIFF JO CO KS###
10/31/1997 FILE STAMP 10/20/97, MICR # 00172, AFFIDAVIT OF SCOTT P. ROEDER AND ATTACHED MOTION TO SUSPEND CHILD SUPPORT
08/04/1997 FILE STAMP 07/29/97, MICR # 00054, ORDER ON EXPEDITED HEARING (NO SERVICE)
07/29/1997 FILE STAMP 07/22/97, MICR # 00564, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM SN. CO., KS. N/S SCOTT ROEDER 7-15-97 C/S
07/17/1997 FILE STAMP 07/11/97, MICR # 00676, SHERIFF'S RETURN SN. CO., KS. N/S SCOTT P ROEDER 6-26-97 C/S
07/11/1997 FILE STAMP 07/03/97, MICR # 00402, ALIAS REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED ###MOTION, AFFIDAVIT AND ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO SHERIFF SHAWNEE CO KS###
06/17/1997 FILE STAMP 06/13/97, MICR # 00235, MOTION AND AFFIDAVIT FOR ORDER TO APPEAR AND ORDER TO APPEAR FOR EXPEDITED HEARING....REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED. ###MOTION AFFIDAVIT & ORDER TO APPEAR ISSUED TO SHERIFF SHAWNEE COKS###
05/16/1997 FILE STAMP 05/12/97, MICR # 00534, SHERIFF RETURN SHAWNEE CO KS SERVED PROPHECY CLUB BY SERVING JOYCE ESSMAN 5-7-97 C/S
04/29/1997 FILE STAMP 04/28/97, MICR # 00109, MOTION FOR CHANGE OF PAYOR SUBJECT TO INCOME WITHHOLDING; INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER; REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED. ###INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER ISSUED TO SN. CO., KS. SHERIFF.###
09/17/1996 FILE STAMP 09/13/96, MICR # 00267, SHERIFF'S RETURN FROM JO. CO., KS. SERVED HEARTLAND FOOD SERVICES INC 9-11-96 C/S
09/09/1996 FILE STAMP 09/06/96, MICR # 00186, AFFIDAVIT APPLYING FOR AN INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER: INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER: REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED. ###INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER ISSUED TO JO. CO., KS. SHERIFF####
08/23/1996 FILE STAMP 08/22/96, MICR # 00006, NOTICE OF INTENT TO APPLY FOR INCOME WITHHOLDING ORDER
08/19/1996 FILE STAMP 08/15/96, MICR # 00361, JOURNAL ENTRY OF DIVORCE
07/17/1996 FILE STAMP 07/16/96, MICR # 00510, ATTORNEY'S RETURN BY CERTIFIED MAIL SERVED SCOTT P. ROEDER 5-17-96C/S (IN STATE)
07/16/1996 PETITIONER APPEARS WITH LAURA MCCONWELL. PETITIONER PRESENTS EVIDENCE. PETITIONER GRANTED DIVORCE. ORDERS ISSUED REGARDING CUSTODY, SUPPORT, DIVISION OF PROPERTY AND DEBTS. (CSR) TAR JUDGE J.RUSSELL
06/20/1996 FILE STAMP 06/19/96, MICR # 00178, CERTIFICATE OF ATTENDANCE (LINDSEY ANN ROEDER)
05/16/1996 SUMMONS;PETITION;AFFIDAVIT;WORKSHEET; APPLICATION FOR TEMP ORDERS;NOTICE OF HEARING AND TEMP ORDERS ISSUED TO ATTORNEY (AT COUNTER) FILE STAMP 05/16/96, MICR # 00313, PETITION (60-DIVORCE);APPLICATION FOR TEMPORARY ORDERS;DOMESTIC RELATIONS AFFIDAVIT;CHILD SUPPORT WORKSHEET;NOTICE OF HEARING; TEMPORARY ORDERS;REQUEST AND SERVICE INSTRUCTION FORM FILED

~~
They served income withholding to Heartland Food Services - and- The Prophesy Club
WTH?
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:26 PM
Response to Original message
48. I have not called myself
a "Christian" for many years for this reason. Damn them! Damn them to their Hell! Hypocrites, all of them. The good news is, God/dess WILL judge them when the time comes and they WILL lose! :cry:
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #48
55. from your keyboard...
there are no words.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:27 PM
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49. more google cache on the net..brand new:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:28 PM
Response to Original message
50. Oh, damn that Google cache!
It's helped me a number of times find good info which otherwise would have been lost.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:34 PM
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53. And so it begins
This event will be a major setback for the many sincere, decent people who oppose abortion but are not willing to commit violent acts.

Abortion will not stop until there is no demand for it.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #53
59. Abortion doesn't need to stop...
any more than kidney transplants need to stop. It only needs to be safe and available to those who require it.

And boo-fucking-hoo to the "sincere, decent people whose oppose abortion".

Sid
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #53
76. "sincere, decent people" mind their own damned business.
Anti-abortion people aim to control women. Fuck that and fuck them!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #53
77. Many so called sincere , decent people can stay the hell out of my uterus.
If they were so sincere and decent, they'd be promoting sex ed and health care, not opposing abortion.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #77
103. I will second that!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #53
82. I know of NO sincere, decent people who oppose abortion.
Sincere, decent people don't go poking their noses into the wombs of other people.

Fuck them and their terrorist organizations like Operation Rescue.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #82
132. Wouldn't it be better if abortions were available but not needed as often?
Is there anything wrong with having that attitude?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #132
157. The attitude of what you think is the best choice for a woman...
...no matter how it is dolled up is the WRONG attitude. It's her body ~~ if she wants an abortion, I have NO say-so just because of what I think about my body. Same goes for you. Abortion needs to be safe and legal...PERIOD. That is all that needs to be said.

So...I find your opinion irrelevant to the life of another.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #132
158. yes, it would be better
sex education and birth control can help reduce some abortions, but not all. sometimes abortions are necessary to save the woman's life. i am not sure there is any way to reduce those abortions.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:49 PM
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92. Poor them. and you.
No sympathy for the dead doctor who helped so many woman?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:25 AM
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131. Sure, I do have sympathy for George Tiller and his family
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 08:39 AM by slackmaster
He was a brave man who helped a lot of people.

That was not the point of my post. You obviously haven't read everything else I've written about this tragedy.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:37 PM
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54. Time to shut down this terrorist organization
Operation REscue whould be shut down and its assets seized.

Everybody connected with Operation Rescue should be on the no-fly list now.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:47 PM
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57. I found this bizarre reference on YouTube
posted 3 weeks ago:
"watch out for scott roeder he the
biggest fraud con man on earth"

It was in response to one of O'Reilly's anti-Tiller segments.

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=aMC_70oYV8U&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DaMC_70oYV8U

I couldn't figure out what it was in reference to because there was no other mention of Roeder in the comments. I couldn't listen to the video, though.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:57 PM
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64. Weird.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:16 AM
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128. I managed to find a "scottroeder" on Youtube.
Linked through this account.

http://www.youtube.com/drew7372

His account is closed, however.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:49 PM
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58. He's also a registered Republican (surprise)
From the Kansas SoS page:

Registrant Detail
Name Scott Roeder
Status Active
Reason Suspended
Address 11724 W 68th Terrace
Shawnee, KS 66203
Party Republican


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:27 PM
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78. Bet me Rob is right now sweating over his subscribers list. n/t
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:50 PM
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61. K&R
:kick:
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:03 PM
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66. driving violations too
Edited on Sun May-31-09 07:12 PM by northernlights
Case Number: 96TR002165
Plaintiff: STATE OF KANSAS,,, Attorney: N/A
Defendant: ROEDER,SCOTT,PHILLIP, Attorney: N/A
Division: TR
Next Activity: None

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
03/21/1996 - SET - Docket on 03/26/96 at 08:00AM. in division TR.
03/21/1996 - Case filed on 03/21/96
03/21/1996 - Charge #1 08 0142 Registration Violation
03/21/1996 - Charge #2 08 0262 Drive While License Suspended (First Offense)
03/21/1996 - Charge #3 08 2503 Failure To Use Safety Belt.
03/21/1996 - Charge #4 40 3104 No Liability Insurance
03/25/1996 - Case continued at request of defense, SET - Docket on 04/02/96 at 08:00AM. in division TR.
03/26/1996 - Defendant fails to appear. Issue warrant in the amount of $1,000.00 ORC AJA
04/02/1996 - STATE BY STACY HEINITZ. DEFENDANT IN PERSON. CASE SET FOR TRIAL 4/16/96 AT 1:30PM. AJA
04/02/1996 - SET - Court Trial on 04/16/96 at 01:30PM. in division TR.
04/02/1996 - Notice sent.
04/04/1996 - Subpoena issued to TROOPER PATTERSON C/O KHP to appear 04/16/96 at 1:15PM.
04/05/1996 - Subpoena returned FAXED on 04/05/96 as to TROOPER PATTERSON.
04/16/1996 - TRIAL - STATE APPEARS BY TAHER KAMELI. DEFT APPEARS IN PERSON. COUNT #1 - FOUND GUILTY - FINE $5.00 & $42.00 DOCKET FEES. COUNT #2 - FOUND GUILTY - FINE $100.00 AND 5 DAYS IN JAIL. PAYABLE 10-1-96. GMO PRO TEM
04/16/1996 - Charge #1 Disposition: plead Not Guilty Trial to court found Guilty, original charge Sentence: court costs: $ 42.00 fine: $ 5.00
04/16/1996 - Charge #2 Disposition: plead Not Guilty Trial to court found Guilty, original charge Sentence: fine: $ 100.00
04/16/1996 - Charge #3 Disposition: Dismissed by prosecutor
04/16/1996 - Charge #4 Disposition: Dismissed by prosecutor
04/17/1996 - SET - Payment Monitor on 10/01/96 at 08:00AM. in division TR.
10/01/1996 - Defendant fails to appear or pay issue commitment. AJA
10/01/1996 - Bond Forfeited. AJA
10/02/1996 - Commitment issued as to SCOTT PHILLIP ROEDER
10/04/1996 - 30 days notice of suspension mailed.
10/07/1996 - Case continued at request of defense, SET - Payment Monitor on 10/15/96 at 08:00AM. in division TR. HAS ACTIVE COMMITMENT AND 30 DAY NOTICE.
10/08/1996 - Commitment recalled - as to SCOTT PHILLIP ROEDER - SNSO Contact GLENDA WILKINSON 10/08/96 at 04:30P.M.
10/09/1996 - Commitment returned filed.
10/15/1996 - STATE BY KATY MURRAY. DEFENDANT IN PERSON. DEFENDANT TO COMPLETE 30 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE. CONTINUED TO 12/3/96 AT 8:00AM. AJA
10/15/1996 - SET - Payment Monitor on 12/03/96 at 08:00AM. in division TR. COMMUNITY SERVICE
10/15/1996 - VOLUNTARY WORK DIVERSION PROGRAM FORM FILED AND APPROVED. AJA
12/03/1996 - Defendant not present for the 12/03/96 docket. Defendant given 90 days to pay case in full or the driver's license will be suspended.
02/05/1997 - 30 days notice of suspension mailed.
03/12/1997 - Driver's license suspension letter produced for Dept of M.V.
11/21/2001 - Case referred to AllianceOne for collection.


http://www.shawneecourt.org/doe/search.jsp?caseNumber=96TR002165&location=internet
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:12 PM
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70. and he's a freeman!
Another "sovereign citizen" terrorist.

Time to use the Bush-era terrorism laws against these domestic terrorists!
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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:18 PM
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72. delete post
Edited on Sun May-31-09 07:48 PM by zazen
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:39 PM
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80. That is a different guy with the same name, a young univ. photographer
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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:44 PM
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89. delete dumbass post
Edited on Sun May-31-09 07:49 PM by zazen
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:43 PM
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86. Careful, there. Check to make sure you're talking about the
right person before posting. That's not the right person.
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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #72
91. my bad--just reread the article; and I was feeling sorry for all the Scott Roeder's out there
and then I went I contributed to it. I'm a dumbass.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:22 PM
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75. Now all we need is his user name at FR. n/t
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:42 PM
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85. I sense a subpoena is in RimJob's future
One that commands him to turn over anything related to this terrorist.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:34 PM
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79. Operation Rescue is a Terrorist Organization
It needs to be outlawed.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:41 PM
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83. NBC affiliate IDs Tiller assassin as Scott Roeder., and linked to OP Rescue.
NBC affiliate IDs Tiller assassin as Scott Roeder. He may have posted about Tiller at Op Rescue site. May have once been busted re: bombs.

http://twitter.com/GregMitch
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:44 PM
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88. Good.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #83
107. I just RT'd
to all my peeps (Digg people).
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:41 PM
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84. The Freemen seem to have been active in Kansas in 1996
Can't tell if Roeder was part of it -- those arrest records just say he was transporting explosives -- but this other stuff which is also from Shawnee County in that same time period is certainly interesting:

http://www.newcomm.org/content/view/1722/93/

Robert A. Riccomini, a 14-year employee of the Kansas Department of Corrections was arrested in connection with bogus checks that began circulating throughout Kansas in 1995. Riccomini, 45, of Emmett was charged in Shawnee County District Court with attempted theft for writing a phony check in 1995 for more than $20,000 to the Capitol City State Bank in Topeka. He was released on $2,500 bond. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Nov. 3.

Riccomini was part of a group of "freemen" in the St. Marys area, along with Ronald Griesacker, Rockie Broaddus and Ernest Cartmill. In an article for the Americans Bulletin, Griesacker wrote that the group was trained by the Montana Freemen. Training included "biblical concepts that intermingled with our government" and, apparently, Schweitzer's check writing scheme. The group reportedly disbanded in the Spring of 1996 after federal agents arrested LeRoy Schweitzer in Montana (Americans Bulletin, Dec. 1995, Kansas City Star, Sept. 18).

Source: Midwest Action Report, September 1997


http://www.newcomm.org/content/view/1718/93/

On March 20, 1998 Kansas common law court activist Ronald A. Griesacker was arrested in Shady Grove Oregon. A resident of St. Marys, Kansas until March 1996, Griesacker was a fugitive wanted in Wichita on federal bank and mail fraud charges for allegedly trying to pass off more than $500,000 of worthless "freeman" checks. In addition to leading common law court activity throughout the Midwest, Griesacker, a former Kansas Penitentiary worker, was associated with a number of Christian Patriot groups, including the Republic of Texas and the Washitaw Nation.

Source: Midwest Action Report, March 1998

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:08 PM
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98. He was suspected in 1996 of ties with the Montana Freemen
Edited on Sun May-31-09 08:26 PM by starroute
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=KC&p_theme=kc&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAF4312B433A6F1&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

TOPEKA - Anxiety over the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, plus a tip to police, led to the arrest of a man who is suspected of having ties to a Montana "freemen" group, a Shawnee County sheriff's deputy testified Thursday.

A preliminary hearing was held Thursday for Scott Roeder, 38, of Silver Lake, Kan., who is charged with criminal use of explosives.

Published on 1996-05-03, Page C2, The Kansas City Star


On edit: Lots and lots on the Montana Freemen here:
http://www.adl.org/mwd/freemen.asp

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:43 AM
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146. Women's groups have long connected this anti-abortion violence to the militias . . .
at least that's what they were saying 15 years or more ago --

and they did try then to get the RICO laws to apply against this

domestic terrorism, but they were denied.

These groups should have to pay for the damage they have done to these

women's clinics -- and needless to say, we need an outing here to make

clear who is generating this violence.

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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #84
120. maybe this is what the "con man" comment refers to? [n/t]
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:44 PM
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87. Now being reported
Edited on Sun May-31-09 07:45 PM by Neecy
In the Lawrence Journal:

KMBC-TV in Kansas City reported that the suspect had a post-it note with the phone number of anti-abortion group Operation Rescue in his car, however that group issued a statement this morning denouncing the shooting.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/may/31/tiller-shot-death-wichita-church/

He very well may have called them after the shooting, which is why they took their site offline so quickly.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #87
100. I'm wondering if maybe the FBI shut down their site
as evidence?

Scrubbing it would be pretty impossible.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:40 AM
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144. Whose FBI are we working with now . . . Bush's or Obama's . . . ???
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 11:40 AM by defendandprotect
Obama still has 51 of the Bush AG's . . .!!!

This personnel needs to be changed, quickly.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:15 AM
Response to Reply #87
122. Now that would be cool if someone checked OR's phone records...
I can see someone like this "reporting in".
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:46 PM
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90. Why is it down?
What are they scared of?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:56 PM
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94. So if all these posts from the killer are dated 2007
Does that mean he's been stalking Tiller for the last two years, including at church?

Hard to believe he wouldn't have set off some red flags with somebody, as obsessed as he obviously was.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:57 PM
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95. 'alleged' killer
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:04 PM
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97. Yeah.
That's actually kind of important.

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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 07:59 PM
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96. Radical Christofascist Terrorists
When will we call a spade a spade in this country?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 08:11 PM
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99. No surprise there. K&R
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:11 PM
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108. ok, here he is
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:12 PM
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109. That would be "Terror Organization: Operation Rescue"
n/t
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 09:55 PM
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111. Yep, they need to search their compounds now
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 10:02 PM
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112. I see O'Reilly Mentioned on that page Three Times...
# Lisa M. Berg Says:
April 6th, 2007 at 8:53 am

Has Bill O’Reilly been invited to any of the Tiller events and if so what has been his reply? Has Fox news covered any of the events?
# Gail Banker Armstrong Says:
April 12th, 2007 at 7:01 am

I agree with Lisa…Bill O’Reilly should be invited to attend one of these events…His support is important.
It is a wonderful idea to have this event when it is not snowing (hopfully!)
Peace…
# Paul McGregor Says:
May 8th, 2007 at 7:10 am

You have support in UK to, where circumstances are even worse. I will be praying with you on these days.
# Christobel Says:
May 13th, 2007 at 9:58 am

hi i’m from malaysia. I was doing doing some research for my assignment and came across this website. Would definitely be with you in prayer especially on these days.
# Bill McKean Says:
May 14th, 2007 at 10:01 pm

The Wichita Eagle, the Daily Oklahoman and the Poynter Institute are sponsoring a regional conference for journalists “National Writer’s Workshop” at the Wichita Hyatt on May 19 & 20.

Too bad O’Reilly can’t fly out for the prayer vigil and for the writer’s conference to discuss the culture wars with the regional media. After all O’Reilly has stated that the Wichita Eagle is the worst newspaper in the US.

The website address is:

http://www.kansas.com/nww
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:59 AM
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134. figures
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:11 AM
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115. I am so sorry.
Those killers need to be stopped! Thy shalt not kill, but only when it is convenient.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:13 AM
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116. Army of God.
Operation Rescue is a red herring.
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:42 AM
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124. Has there been a trial and conviction already?
That was fast.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:07 PM
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153. Yes, Dr. Tiller was
sentenced to death.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 06:48 AM
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125. Why isn't Operation Rescue treated as a terrorist organization? They target & harass law abiding
citizens. :mad:
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:04 AM
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127. The DHS and FBI
better be all over these domestic terror cells!

This is what happens when any loon in America can walk in off the street and buy a gun after being incited to violence 24/7 by Hate radio.

Had enough yet democrats? If these fascists aren't stopped it will be YOU next time!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:17 AM
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129. Kick to expose Terrorist Organization. n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:20 AM
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130. Where did he get the gun? nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:58 AM
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133. if they condone killing doctors, then they are terrorists
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 09:03 AM by fascisthunter
and should be treated as such! Could you imagine an environmentalist doing this shit?! This is bullshit!

Bunch of nutty cowards who can't live with others...
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:09 AM
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138. You just made the Guardian!
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:17 AM
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139. I was just going to post the same thing--this thread is being picked up by news organizations!
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 10:18 AM by Mrs. Overall
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:05 AM
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141. perp shot


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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:42 AM
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145. Ugh.
Totally dead in the eyes. Brainwashed fanatic.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:03 PM
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160. Why does he have body armor on?
He's got Wichita police body armor on in those two photos. Where was Dr. Tiller's body armor and protection from the WPD?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:34 PM
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152. Pro-lifers murdering people. It's base level irony but I like it.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:09 PM
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154. operation rescue = terrorist organization (domestic)
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:30 PM
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161. I don't know. Can we allow Al Qaida to disassociate themselves from the 9/11 Hijackers?
Bad apples happen. These days they're EVERYWHERE. Apparently there is a global apple blight in progress. :shrug:
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