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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:35 PM
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Saudi beheads and crucifies murder convict
"Sets an example" alright.

"RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — Saudi authorities beheaded and crucified a man convicted of brutally slaying an 11-year-old boy and his father, the Interior Ministry announced.

According to the statement issued by the ministry Friday, shop owner Ahmed al-Anzi molested the boy and then strangled him with a length of rope. He then stabbed the boy's father to death when the man came looking for his son.

He hid both the bodies in his shop, the statement said, adding that al-Anzi threatened police with a knife when they came to arrest him.

Al-Anzi had previously been convicted of sodomy and owning pornographic films, a crime in conservative Saudi Arabia.

Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam. Normally those convicted of rape, murder and drug trafficking in Saudi Arabia are just beheaded..."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gqPAQlB4u5bFbUc8ytWhBBMmn6aAD98GKVF80

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:37 PM
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1. (refrains from clicking the link)
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:40 PM
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2. when you are all about and eye for an eye
Edited on Sat May-30-09 10:41 PM by mth44sc
it don't much matter what method you use. How amny people have we killed in your name and mine this year?

edited to add "and mine"
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 10:59 PM
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3. The term crucifixion is ill used here. It has nothing to do with a cross
Edited on Sat May-30-09 11:35 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
it means public display of the body.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 11:14 PM
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4. "...The body of the man, beheaded by sword, was put on a cross in the Saudi capital Riyadh"
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 11:35 PM
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5. CNN and Amnesty International disagrees
Saudi Arabian officials beheaded and then publicly displayed the body of a convicted killer in Riyadh on Friday, an act that prompted a stiff denunciation by a leading human rights monitor.

The Saudi Interior Ministry said Ahmed Al-Shamlani Al-Anzi was sentenced to death and then "crucifixion" -- having his body displayed in public -- for the kidnapping and killing of an 11-year-old boy and for the killing of the boy's father, according to the official Saudi Press Agency.

Amnesty International issued a statement deploring the punishment, with the group's Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui saying in a statement it is "horrific" that beheadings and crucifixions "still happen."

Even though the word "crucifixion" is used to describe the public display, the act has no connection to Christianity and the crucifixion of Jesus. The bodies are not displayed on crosses, Lamri Chirouf, who researches Saudi Arabian issues for Amnesty, explained.

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/30/saudi.arabia.execution/index.html
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:03 AM
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6. Reuters is reporting the cross version too...
Hard to say what happened, given the media; both here and there.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLT998386
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:13 AM
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10. Hm. I bet in 2000 years
There will be thousands of pages written about this man and his benevolence, millions will think he is their imaginary friend, and millions more will die in wars in his name.

Well, I wouldn't doubt it. Not that Im making comparisons between people, but it just seems us sick humans have some crazy fetishes about crosses.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:23 AM
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13. There is no way in Saudi they would use a xtian symbol
They use a tree, not a formal cross.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:05 AM
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7. They aren't wrong about everything.
I'd like to see all child rapists get this treatment.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:12 AM
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9. I'd like to raise above my base instincts but...
I have no sympathy for child rapists. I would disagree with this treatment for most other classes of criminals but molesters?

Fuck'em. This guy got only .05% of what he deserved.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:16 AM
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11. Let's hope he really was guilty, then.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:32 AM
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17. Indeed.
Only the guilty should suffer.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:20 AM
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12. Most everyone one would...
And thats why we have "justice" and a law system, to objectively and unemotionally "handle" this as a society collectively agrees to. The closer one is to an issue, the more irrationally they would act. The system is not supposed to act like the average human though. If we wanted this, just do away with justice completely. Bring on the Furies.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:32 AM
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14. Since you like bloodsports so much...
Have you ever considered a career as a matador?

Or does that line of work just not have enough dismembered corpses for your viewing pleasure?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:17 AM
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16. Certainly not. I despise animal cruelty.
Just because I feel child rapists should be mutilated doesn't mean I'm an indiscriminate, maniacal savage.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:29 PM
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19. Could have fooled me
I mean here you are, fantasizing about mangling, then killing, then displaying someone for your own pleasure. You pretend saying "I only apply it to child rapists!" is a pretty lame excuse - you want to see dead, mutilated bodies hanging by the roadside, because it'll make you feel good.

That's pretty fucked up.

I've got no love for people who abuse children either, but I at least recognize the vast gulf between revenge and justice.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 12:10 AM
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8. At least, for his sake, it's good he was beheaded before the crucifixion.
That "sets an example", alright. How gruesome!
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:14 AM
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15. There are media reports that says its not a cruxifiction as done by the Romans
then again others that say it was
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:48 AM
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18. And if he had been a really, really bad person....
they would have burned his beheaded and crucified body. From what recesses of darkness do these types of thoughts escape?
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mgcgulfcoast Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 01:35 PM
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20. he wont kill anyone else.
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