Just saw the first commercial describing scary Canada and its Health Care system

[AllentownJake]

Canadians speaking out on how their system is terrible and almost killed them.

I wonder if these fucks realize that it is not 1992 and that a 10% unemployment rate and the gouging they've done of the American Consumer over the past 17 years makes things different this time.

Hopefully :shrug:

[Oregone]

1. They probably had to search high and low to find those Canadians

I know I would. Its obviously just US propaganda.

The ONLY time the US focuses on how "bad" Canada's health system is, is when they are trying to scare people out of reform. Unfortunately, it isn't like the US would even consider single-payer reform in the first place, so these adds are a bit unnecessary.

[AllentownJake]

2. I'm guessing they aren't even Candadian

and their stories are made up.

Don't worry, the US media will give cover for this bullshit.

[subterranean]

3. What's the point? Obama is not proposing a Canadian-style system.

It's a straw man argument. In any case, I'm sure it would be easy to find many more Canadians who love their health care system and have been well served by it. Like this DU poster:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5736222#5736300

[AllentownJake]

4. They are going to make the Public option to be Canadian style Healthcare

Even though it isn't, that is going to be the scare tactic, and I assure you if it passes and the GOP takes power in the next 8 years again, they will ensure that this program fails at all cost.

[Oregone]

5. It most certainly isn't

And itll probably fail anyway, without even the help of the GOP.

[AllentownJake]

6. When has the truth ever gotten in their way

Honestly, they call President Obama a socialist, he's many things, a socialist is not one of them.

[Oregone]

7. Well, in defense of that....

He did nearly socialize GM. :)

Though I doubt the government will influence its operations effectively, and they will probably sell it all off the minute it becomes profitable.

[LiberalArkie]

11. I like telling people we need to get rid of the socialized police depts, fire depts,

the socialized public schools, the socialized road and highway depts, the socialzed airports, the socialized military, coast guard and let those that want those just go out pay for it themselves. ;-)

[AllentownJake]

13. Don't worry,

Look at California right now, that's actually happening.

[LiberalArkie]

19. People never think when they say "no socialism" what life would be without it

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

8. That particular GREAT post needs to go viral, particularly if they are targeting

the Canadian system as being bad, when it's what most of us aspire to have.

People in the United States would weep with gratitude to have that type of care at almost no out of pocket expense. Seriously, are we really and finally an Idiotcracy? All indicators are pointing that way.

[AllentownJake]

10. I think when people started paying for clothing that has corporate logos

was the first clue.

Yep we are an idiotcracy, when there is more talk over the scandal over the President's dog during a week on the news shows than actual policies, you know America has jumped the shark.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Yes, I heard that all of the graveyards are full in Candada and that

all of the Canadians are dead or dying.

[abluelady]

12. I Just Saw It, Too

And I was thinking of all the uninsured Americans who would be happy to go see a doctor in a few months as opposed to never. But of course the Americans complaining have decent health insurance, which not all of us have. And why would those with care about those without.:sarcasm:

Why won't people realize we can take the best of all the healthcare systems out there and make it ours, rather than assuming we will take the worst of what is out there and make it ours?

[AllentownJake]

14. Simple answer

1993 redux.

Its easier to scare people with made up horror stories than to sell them on something that is good for them.

It doesn't hurt when the American Health Industry are regular purchasers of advertising for the 7 corporations that control the media.

From hospitals to Pharma, to Insurance, the current Industry is a great customer to our TV, Radio, and print media.

[abluelady]

15. When Did Americans Become Such Wusses? eom

[AllentownJake]

16. When we got an empire and something to protect over the interest over our own citizens

Prior to us being number 1 we still had something to strive for.

[abluelady]

28. So Sad

I guess it's true, "whoever dies with most toys wins."

[louis-t]

17. I doubt it takes any longer in Canada to see a doctor

than it does here. Generally, it takes a few weeks to get an appt. here, longer to see a specialist.

[quiller4]

22. You are lucky if it only takes weeks. When you call our doc for

an appointment for annual screenings, the wait is 2-3 months. If you have an immediate concern, you can sometimes be squeezed in but are more often directed to one of the urgent care clinics in town.

[abluelady]

27. It took Me Six Months to See a Dematologist

And the appointment maker never asked "what for?" Of course if I had thought I had a skin cancer, I would have tried to get in sooner, but her stock answer was six months.

[Fuzz]

18. One could make a similar commercial about the US system, but anecdotal stories like that

are nothing but bullshit anyway. Unfortunately for some people with preconceived notions they work.

[anonymous171]

20. Replace gov't bureaucracies with insurance companies and you have American healthcare.

Insurance Companies can decide what treatments you are allowed to get, which doctors you can see, and which hospitals you can go to. Personally, I prefer public bureaucracies to private ones. At least I have some say in how they are run.

[krispos42]

21. We could find Americans almost killed by our system without even trying

Hell, my mom is a social worker for a kidney dialysis unit. HER stories scare me!

[area51]

25. Or ...

we could just use stories of the 273 people who die in this country every day due to lack of healthcare.

[krispos42]

26. Ah, but it's difficult to interview corpses.

And the ouiji board is SOOOOO slow... :eyes:

[Vinca]

23. I wonder if any group is planning a counter commercial with Americans

providing their horror stories . . . sort of a mini Sicko.

[KittyWampus]

24. One can only hope that is in the works.