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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:45 PM
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Poll question: meta, meta, meta. DU center right? center? center left? left? far left?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:47 PM
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1. Define "DU"
A handful of right-leaning blowhards doesn't represent the community. In spite of their loudness.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:50 PM
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2. ?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:51 PM
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4. You must be on an entirely different site.
Considering that DU's opinions and polls almost always go far to the left of any scientific polling or survey, I find it very, very, very difficult to believe that you could ever justify your statement.

If DU were in charge, Kucinich would be president right now. I don't think he even cracked 5% in the primaries. And yet DU is a right-leaning site? Really?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:53 PM
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6. You're not wrong. But the vast majority of 'left' members don't post
The talking points and thread titles tend toward the right.

But you find the true nature of the left-leaning community in the poll results.

There are sorta two DUs.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:57 PM
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9. We'll have to agree to disagree on that, since it's about our respective perceptions.
I feel that the left-leaning community is far more vocal here than center-left community, but to each his/her own. It's possibly that we each feel as we do because it's human nature to be more sensitive to forces that oppose us. :shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:11 PM
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15. in that case, why are most threads here highly critical of Obama?
and we can go count up the thread titles that are critical of him v those that praise him over any period of time, to see who's correct.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:13 PM
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17. Go count 'em up
Knock yourself pout
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:19 PM
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20. 'positive' threads sink pretty fast. controversial threads attract replies
Edited on Fri May-29-09 01:21 PM by bigtree
. . . and remain where you are probably counting them. That support for the dissenting threads is a reflection of how most of the respondents feel about the state of affairs (or, in some cases, the dissent to that dissent). I don't know if that dissent can be pigeonholed into some neat box and labeled liberal or anything else. I do know that there is a good amount of dissent here about the policies of the president. You can characterize that dissent as you wish, but I think most of it has been policy-oriented, rather than merely personal against the president.

It seems to me that you have to first define where the president is politically, along your scale, to determine where the dissent to his policies are on that same political scale.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:10 PM
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14. I disagree with that. DU mostly backed Obama during the primaries, and he
is more center-left. He's a free-trader, doesn't support gay marriage, etc. He was to the right of Kucinich, Edwards, and even HRC, yet DU as a whole seemed to still prefer him & attack and tombstone anyone who didn't. God the primaries were ridiculously ugly around here. Maybe it was his charisma and promises of change, or maybe DU really is center-left. Either way, it's water under the bridge, thank goodness we got him instead of McCain, and hopefully things in this country will take a turn for the better.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:13 PM
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16. No, JE was the odds on favorite until after NH and he retained
more supporters than any other until he dropped out.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:31 PM
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24. That doesn't mean anything though.
I consider myself pretty far left and I supported Obama simply because I knew he could win. And I was right, wasn't I? Kucinich and Edwards simply would not have won.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:50 PM
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3. DU "center right".
I'm left of most of the population, but center right here.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:52 PM
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5. Wouldn't that make DU far left?
I mean, if you're left of most people as you say, and here you would be considered center-right, wouldn't that mean that the DU political spectrum is shifted so much to the left of you that you are center-right? :shrug:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:15 PM
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19. I think that DU IS generally pretty far left of most people.
If you have FreeRepublic as the "1" on the far right, DU is an "8" on the scale.

I'm about a 6.5 to a 7.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:24 PM
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21. Okay, I get you now.
My apologies - we were on the same page, I was just a bit confused.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:26 PM
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22. NP. I'm comfortable being a little right of most people here.
...and I'm also comfortable being left of most people everywhere else :)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:28 PM
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23. Same here.
Although, I think I'm more to the left than I come off here, simply because I value pragmatism a lot more than purity, and that puts me at odds quite a bit with many. Ideologically speaking, I should be a hardcore Kucitizen, but I really don't like him very much at all as a politician.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 12:54 PM
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7. As a whole? On the global R/L or the national R/L?
n/t
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:00 PM
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10. Just plain "left."
Most of us are liberals. For every DLC member, there's a true socialist. Our responses to various quizzes regularly place us squarely in the middle of the left, and thank goodness.

I feel at home here.

:dem:

-Laelth
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:04 PM
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12. +1
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 01:14 PM
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18. Exaclty. We have all degrees of leftist here. nt
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