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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:27 PM
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Rove: Legal ‘Mess’ at Guantanamo Is Obama Administration’s Fault
Edited on Sat May-23-09 07:00 PM by The Hope Mobile
Source: Think Progress

Rove: Legal ‘Mess’ at Guantanamo Is Obama Administration’s Fault

In his national security speech Thursday, President Obama addressed the controversy being stirred by conservatives over his decision to close Guantanamo. Obama forcefully said that he inherited a legal “mess” that has consumed his administration’s time and energy:

There are 240 people there who have now spent years in legal limbo. In dealing with this situation, we do not have the luxury of starting from scratch. We are cleaning up something that is – quite simply – a mess; a misguided experiment that has left in its wake a flood of legal challenges that my Administration is forced to deal with on a constant basis, and that consumes the time of government officials whose time should be spent on better protecting our country.

Yesterday, on the Brian and the Judge radio show, Karl Rove was angered by Obama’s critiques of the Bush administration, and he disputed the fact that the Bush administration had left a “mess” at Guantanamo. When conservative judge Andrew Napolitano noted that Obama “does have a constitutional mess on his hands,” Rove responded by saying that the “mess” is being caused by litigation from Attorney General Eric Holder — who is apparently “arguing against the government”:

ROVE: What’s ironic to me is that yesterday he said “this is a mess that was left to me by my predecessors.” No. This is a mess, to the extent that it is a mess, left to him by his friends and allies like Attorney General Eric Holder. Remember, there are DOJ appointees of this president who are in court arguing against the government’s position on these kind of things. I mean, it is his friends and allies and in some instances, his appointees who are in court arguing for an expansion of the rights of the terrorists and arguing for an end to the military commissions.

Listen here:

It’s unclear what cases Rove is referring to. There has been no litigation on the military commissions since Obama took office in January.

The lingering legal mess at Guantanamo, of course, was created by Bush. Obama now must determine “where to imprison and/or try the remaining approximately 250 Guantanamo detainees, many of whom have already been declared eligible for release.” This is complicated by the fact that multiple detainees have not been able to go to trial because of inadmissible evidence obtained through torture or hearsay. The international community is also encountering similar problems in repatriating Guantanamo detainees. Perhaps worst of all, Bush’s kangaroo courts have produced only three convictions.

As Obama noted Thursday, “the problem of what to do with Guantanamo detainees was not caused by my decision to close the facility; the problem exists because of the decision to open Guantanamo in the first place.”

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/23/rove-obama-guantanamo/



How can they be this delusional?? This is one of many reasons why we have to investigate, prosecute and convict. If we don't, these lies will continue and sheeple will continue to fall for it.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:29 PM
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1. Can I waterboard Karl Rove now?
Please?
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:31 PM
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2. You definitely have my permission. In fact, can I help??? nt
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pkdu Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:17 PM
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11. Only if I can apply the electrodes as well. n/t
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:27 PM
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21. How about my size thirteen up his fat ass?
On second thought, I like my foot and good shoes are expensive, so why waste it on him? Just lock him up.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:42 PM
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3. Karl Rove is living in a delusion that is so magnificently constructed
that I'm surprised he doesn't see mushrooms dancing over his alarm clock at night when he rises from his coffin and goes marauding for flesh.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:47 PM
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6. Maybe he does?? LOL!! nt
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:52 PM
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16. He's not delusional. He is merely a master of cheat and deceit.
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UP_4012 Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:43 PM
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4. Tanslation:
zOMG international backlash contingency plan number 47! (aka blame the Democrats)
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:48 PM
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7. LOL! Is it a different plan or more variations on the same theme??
Isn't this what it always boils down to for them (Rove especially it seems)?
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UP_4012 Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:53 PM
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9. Pretty much
Extremely cheap and TIRED variations on the same old theme. Rove is just a tool.
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:02 PM
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10. Welcome to DU nt
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:53 PM
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17. more like a toolbox.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:43 PM
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5. We need Rove and Cheney together arguing their case.
Edited on Sat May-23-09 06:48 PM by bemildred
The legal mess of Gitmo is that Gitmo is illegal and what was done there is illegal too.
\:popcorn:
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:49 PM
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8. Yeah! In a courtroom. Its so unpredictable what they're going to say next . . . LOL!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:25 PM
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13. We need a graphic of the Pig Boy and Darth jumping the shark hand in hand.
:)
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R Merm Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:52 PM
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12. Another one who should be wearing an orange jump suit
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The Hope Mobile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:49 PM
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15. We can only hope!
Welcome to DU!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:46 PM
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14. Carl Rove's reality is based on a house of cards
From the time he was a teen he has always been able to manipulate, lie, trick and destroy anyone who he deemed an enemy. In the same breath he has done those things to elevate * to the position of President.

No one knew who Carl Rove was while he was pushing * to the WH. Everyone now knows that he was involved with outing and destroying the careers Valerie Plame, Sibel Edmonds, Siegleman and destroying the lives of others.

Carl Rove is out with the rest of them trying to rewrite history. You note he takes no responsibility for the chaos that we now know in America.

Everything comes full circle, it should be interesting to see how this plays out
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:57 PM
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18. Plus, seriously, could he blow his nose?
it doesn't help that he looks like a giant booger anyway
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:01 PM
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19. ha..ha..
:rofl:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:21 PM
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20. The truth doesn't matter to that clown. And did I mention he is
a walking free criminal?
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