Republicans Hitting Pelosi For 'Attacking' CIA Have Long History Of Their Own Attacks

[babylonsister]

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In Savaging Pelosi For "Attacking" CIA, GOP Ignores Its Own Record Of Similar Attacks

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As we reported yesterday, top Pelosi antagonist Hoekstra has gone so far as to initiate a congressional inquiry into whether the CIA misled Congress on a different matter -- the 2001 shooting of a plane carrying an American missionary in Peru. Here's what Hoekstra said about the subject last fall:

"This issue goes to the heart of the American people's ability to trust the CIA," the Michigan lawmaker said Thursday. "Americans deserve to know that agencies given the power to operate on their behalf aren't abusing that power or their trust."

And here's another case of Hoekstra questioning the CIA's veracity -- on an issue remarkably similar to the Pelosi controversy -- dug up by commenter juccikucci. When CIA director Michael Hayden said that Congress had been briefed in advance on the agency's decision to destroy tapes that showed torture, a Hoekstra spokesman contradicted that claim, saying that Hoekstra was "never briefed or advised that these tapes existed, or that they were going to be destroyed."

And here's yet another, from Laura Rozen. Last year, Hoekstra accused the CIA of withholding from Congress information about negotiations with North Korea. Hoekstra accused the administration of failing to treat Congress with "respect," adding: "We regret to say the administration has deliberately attempted to sideline Congress in the fear that providing us with information about the North Korean regime's continuing lies and reckless behavior would undermine the current diplomatic approach."

It's not just Hoekstra, of course, who's been smearing our terror-fighters. When, in 2007, the CIA contributed to a National Intelligence Estimate on Iran that Republicans viewed as insufficiently alarmist, Boehner told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "Either I don't have confidence in what they told me several months ago or I don't have confidence in what they're telling me today."

In 2006, Sen. Pat Roberts, who then chaired the Senate intel committee, accused the CIA of an "egregious intelligence failure" in declaring, under White House pressure, that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Said Roberts: "This committee simply cannot accept intelligence assessments at face value," Roberts said. "Not having your actions second-guessed is something that is earned."

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[Gabi Hayes]

1. wtf? kr

anybody home?

[RandomThoughts]

2. That is a very important point Boehner said.

Boehner told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "Either I don't have confidence in what they told me several months ago or I don't have confidence in what they're telling me today."

It is very true that contradictions show a imperfect source. But all sources should be questioned since they all could be imperfect or the source could shift. Then those that match what you believe based on experience and your best decision get agreed with.

For instance I lied twice(that I remember) during the primary, once I wanted to say it was to painful to discuss, and another time I played into temporal lore. Both mistakes, but it is part of being imperfect. And at the same time people make guesses from best attempt at figuring things out, or they even have new ideas at different times, or they are sometimes good sometimes bad, so contradictions teach us to think for yourself, since no person(almost) is always correct.

See what I did, by acknowledging I lied, I have no credibility in anything I claim, and the thing is, most people lie once in awhile. In that people have to think and feel what is best in a statement, and look if there is some intrinsic thing said that matches what they believe is best. I have heard their are a few people that are 100% right, but I don't make that claim, on the contrary I make claim that I make mistakes. And hope people do what Boehner said in that statement not just with my comments, or other post, but also with things like Intelligence briefings.

Does it make sense?
Is it something right that is good?
Is it interpretation?

Lots of things make that comment interesting to me.

Edit: Also lied once on topic of scripting.

[babylonsister]

3. Yep. They're all lying. nt