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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:17 PM
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lets discuss portland oregon
im here visiting friends and all i can say
is.. goddamn what a beautiful city.

i mean what a paradise. this is as complete
a city as one could imagine. it just feels healthy
happy and alive. ive never been
in a city where the people have so much affection
and appreciation for it.


if the rest of the country could catch up
to this "liberal" mecca what a truly great country we could be.


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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:22 PM
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1. Portland, Eugene, and the Oregon Coast are all pretty cool
The rest of the state, on the other hand....... well, let's just say the "Oregon Citizens Alliance" (think KKK without sheets) evidently got a lot of support somewhere. :evilfrown:
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:25 PM
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4. is it pretty bad?
ive driven through some small towns that
seemed a little iffy but
on the whole i gotta say what a great state.
love eugene.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:23 PM
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2. It's alright...
It rains there, more than I could take. Just east of Portland starts
redneck country...

Nice place to visit...wouldn't want...

PS...I grew up in the NorthWest..

Tikki
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:24 PM
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3. I love PDX. Not as good as SFO, of course, but is still awesome.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:26 PM
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5.  i have heard S.F. is a much larger version of portland
im intersted in visiting.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:29 PM
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6. Emphasis on the "much".
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:33 PM
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8. I'd compare Seattle and San Francisco, definitely, but Portland is different.
Seattle and San Francisco have more of a big city, big seaport, coastal, cosmopolitan vibe (I used to live in San Francisco). Portland is not quite in that league, but it has its own more low-key charms, and two rivers instead of the bay or Puget Sound.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:38 PM
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10. Yah - pdx is like a large suburb....
of nothing. :rofl:

But any place I can get bacon on my donuts can't be all bad!

http://voodoodoughnut.com/menu.php

And of course the nations 2nd best bookstore is the shit.

http://www.powells.com/
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:42 PM
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13. Hey, Mr. Big City Slicker, give us a break here!
Naw, actually, I agree with you a bit. I used to live in San Francisco, so Portland can't really compete with the excitement level, but it's a kick-ass place to live in other ways. Plus, we were actually able to buy a home here without a big income and raise two kids and send them to a good public school where 95 percent of the parents are raving liberals, so we've got that goin' for us.

:hi:

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:50 PM
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19. Heh - I didn't mean that snarkily.
Edited on Sun May-17-09 08:52 PM by BlooInBloo
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:59 PM
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28. Naw ... I know.
No offense taken at all.

And I LOVE Seattle! :loveya:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:41 PM
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12. But those rivers have their charms
Like Sauvie Island beaches and of course, the Gorge.



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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:44 PM
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14. Oh, man, I love, love, love Sauvie Island.
And it's almost Oregon strawberry season!!! DROOOOOL! I'm going to go out to the island and pick me some flats o' sweet juicy red bits o' Heaven. :9
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:53 PM
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24. Can't beat the Hoodies! Yum!
:9 :bounce:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:58 PM
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27. A flavor explosion compared to those pithy, tasteless California imports.
Edited on Sun May-17-09 08:59 PM by depakid
10 minutes fom my house there ate U pick berry fields (of various sorts) that last well thoughout the summer. Tayberries are probably my fav:



Cross between a flavorful blackberry and a raspberry. Awesome.

Then come the first week of September- it's off to to sawtooth huckleberry fields near Mt. Adams. Now that's something I'm going to miss.




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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:31 PM
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7. Hi. I live in Portland.
We love it. Full disclosure: Your view of our fair city is skewed because the weather is awesome today!

It's been a good place to be liberal and still be in a very family-friendly environment for raising kids. You can get to the coast, the forest, the mountains, and the high desert fairly easiliy from here. The food is good. The coffee is good. The bookstores are good. The vibe is good.

Lots of us ex-Californians live here. The gray skies/rain do take some getting used to, but, really, that's the main complaint. Every place has something of a negative.

:hi:
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:41 PM
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11. the weather today is amazing
ive been here twice before (in the rain)
but it didnt dampen my spirits (pun intended)
just so many little cozy places to duck into
and drink a cup hear good music

and the green spaces are amazing,
a garden around every corner,
and not just residential neighborhoods...


i really love it :)
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:46 PM
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16. Any chance of you moving out here?
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:51 PM
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21. yes, its on my mind but im i school in iowa
working on an education degree (elm)
id love to teach art out here someday.
i can feel that family friendly vibe you mentioned.

i could only imagine raising my little boy here.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:34 PM
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9. I never liked Portland
But I haven't been to a lot of other cities, so, you know, maybe it is a relative "paradise"
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:46 PM
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17. im from des moines and its far and away a paradise
compared to home. des moines is changing
but doesnt compare to portland. this place
has energy.

portland feels a lot like minneapolis actually.
about four hours from des moines. its a nice
place to escape for a long week end.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:54 PM
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25. I guess its all what you have in mind
It just seems dirty, crowded and too busy to me without enough green areas and community. Sometimes its nice to watch a band or grab a beer and pizza in the Baghdad theatre, but by far, I prefer to stay clear.

With that said, I don't like any cities at all that Ive been in (other than where I currently live), and prefer rural and coastal areas. Im probably a terrible judge.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:04 PM
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30. right on. i can see the crowded aspect, but
as far as green spaces its pretty amazing.

do you know of any good camping spots on the coast?
id like to drive out this week and camp, just a tent
and a fire.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:10 PM
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32. Lots of good spaces on the coast
Edited on Sun May-17-09 09:13 PM by Oregone
(Im most familiar with central coast area)

Heceta Head campground (south of Yachats) is great but you might not want to go that far down--its a nice drive south through Tillamook region. South of Waldport is Patterson campground, which is right smack dab on the beach. If you have a taste for beer, you can go try the South Beach campground, close to where the Rogue brewery is. North of Newport is Otter Rock, where there are a few good spots (don't know the name of em) and surfing/rental shops.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:15 PM
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33. this helps. thank you me amigo.
im going to investigate the patterson campground.
on the beach is what im looking for. (beer sounds good too)
cheers.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:16 PM
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34. Pick a spot on the beach. It's all public land.
We own it. All 300 + miles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Beach_Bill

I recommend Rockaway Beach. Close to Portland and has access to a nice, long sandy beach. Just pack your stuff over the dunes and you're there.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:17 PM
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36. Cept for the "no camping" signs you see
:)

At least I see those on a ton of the beaches I visit
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:18 PM
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37. sweet. thanks alot
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:17 PM
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35. We are going to camp at the Oregon Dunes National Recreation area this summer
Edited on Sun May-17-09 09:21 PM by Arugula Latte
I've never camped there, but the Eel Creek Campground has some very nice reviews, and is located in a non-motorized (ATV, OHV) area north of Coos Bay. The campground is sandy and shaded, and sits at the trail head to a 2 mile route across dunes to the sea.

http://books.google.com/books?id=DSpCGnN0u0IC&pg=PA33&l...

Another thing about the coast: Wherever you camp, you might want to stop by Cannon Beach. It's a cute, scenic town with good places to eat. It's home to Haystack Rock, and there are tide pools at its base. Also, just north of there is Ecola State Park, which I highly recommend. Beautiful, stunning views.

Cannon Beach:


Ecola State Park (we've sat at this very table many times)
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:20 PM
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38. General rule: Stay north of Florence (inclusive) and south of Bandon (inclusive)
There is a good chunk around Coos Bay/Reedsport that just makes crappy camping and vacationing
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:29 PM
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40. thanks, ive visited haystacks one other time
and loved it. ill probably stop at cannon beach
while looking for a camp spot. thanks for all the great
info.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:46 PM
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15. Maybe that's why Thom Hartman lives there? n/t
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:53 PM
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23. really? i love his show
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:49 PM
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18. A nice place to visit
But you wouldn't want to live here.

Yeah, that's the ticket.
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:51 PM
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20. I used to live there for a few years. Beautiful.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:52 PM
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22. Great place to live, if you like pollution.
The Willamette Valley is foul.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:08 PM
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31. On the west side, the air off the coast is clear- and water is about the best in the world
Comes from here:



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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 08:57 PM
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26. Politicians with a sense of humor.


Bud Clark
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:01 PM
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29. Aw, hell. The sun came out today. We get days like that maybe ten times a year.
Come back in late November. You'll quickly become as suicidal as the rest of us.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 09:26 PM
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39. shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Edited on Sun May-17-09 09:31 PM by grasswire
It rains a LOT.

The unemployment rate is very high.

I met a 21-year-old kid the other day who came from Ohio last fall to get work. He has a college degree. He's working the night shift at Safeway for min. wage.

A family member of mine owns a coffee house. The resumes that come in are from people with master's degrees and a lot of job experience, none of it having to do with pulling espresso.
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:19 PM
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41. I've never lived there
but it's one of my favorite cities to visit...
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:21 PM
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42. Been here for 13 years and I love it!
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