Behind The Numbers: 83,531 Gave To Obama, 50,000 Gave To Hil

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/04/02/behind-the-numbers-8353_n_44779.html
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Senators Clinton and Obama released how much the've raised in donations in the first quarter as well as their numbers of contributors. According to their websites, Sen. Clinton received donations from 50,000 people, while Sen. Obama received donations from 83,531.

Hillary's camp added another 10 million from her senate campaign making it appear her fund raising was higher then it actually was. (yes, I'm for Obama)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. HIllarious. Amazing what a fresh face and honest, unprogrammed answers

can do for a campaign.

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2. Hillarious but true...

If the primary were held today and his 83,000 donors voted for Obama and her 50,000 voted for Clinton, Obama would win (at least until the Republicans fix the tally in the electronic voting machines so Hillary gets the nomination and they get FOUR MORE YEARS!).

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4. According to the BBC today...

Hillary's campaign says that $26M breaks down into 80% of 50,000, or 40,000, donors giving $100 or less, or $4M, give or take, which leaves $22M in big donations that we won't see identified until the FEC gets around to it a couple of years after the election.

The $22M part is what interests me - who's doing the big buying, and for how much? who's Hillary going to be working for? We know for sure it ain't us, with our measly little $4M. Hillary's fund raising stinks every bit as bad as Bush's did in 2000, when the national media was fawning and burbling about HIS fund-raising shock and awe.

[William769]

3. It's relly sad when a campaign comes down to counting donors.

Who gives a shit?

[MonkeyFunk]

5. exactly

The fact is both Obama and Clinton did very very well last quarter, and both deserve kudos.

[William769]

7. exactly.

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9. It's very telling how the Hillary camp has presented their numbers

as though that $36 million was what she raised for this quarter. When I read that she indeed raised $26 million and that the 10 was only a carry-over, I just shook my head.

[MonkeyFunk]

11. it's very telling

how you come to that conclusion, when the campaign never once implied, intimated, hinted, suggested or otherwise posited that she raised $36 million in new contributions. The $10 million transfer was never hidden in any way.

You're making shit up.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. ...

:thumbsup:

i am proud of them both.

[LSK]

6. and Edwards had over 40,000 according to his site

http://johnedwards.com/news/headlines/20070401-first-quarter/

This is not a 2 person race!!!!!

[Perky]

8. He has not releases his numbers yet. but it it thought to be over $22M

That means leass than HRC but with a far larger base of supporters...

If he gets up to $24M he will have won the early round and be talked about as having more mo'. I am guessing he beats her in the second quarter, because Hillary has to show the big donors that she has grass roots support as deep as Obamas abd can turn out a crowd without Bill being on the stage.

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12. Well, looking at the REAL numbers, it seems to me that Obama might have the upper hand here.

If 83,000 people are willing to donate to his campaign that's at least 83,000 certain votes for him, compared with 50,000 people who were willing to shell over money to see Clinton elected. Those numbers, to me, hold more weight because it is revealing of the power of the people.

We alone have the power to defy the pundits and the media who think that big money will determine who wins this race. It's all the small donors coming together for the same cause that will determine this election. Go, Barack, go!

[William769]

14. I remember the same being said about Dean, and we all know what happened there.

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19. Did someone say DLC ?

Maybe i am just hearing things :shrug:

[gatorboy]

13. Yes but how much of those donations are on an honor system for the moment?

When Obama's people called me last week for a donation, I told them I'd be happy to donate but would have to do it later in the week. They said that would be fine, they simply needed to put me down for a definite donation number even though I hadn't given them a dime yet. So their numbers are probably infalted anyway.

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15. Hillary is looking weaker and weaker these days. I don't hate Hillary, but lately I've seen her:

1. Use Bill as a crutch, as if she can't do it on her own

2. Follow Obama around, from Hollywood to Selma.

3. Buy endorsements, like Vilsak.

4. Foolishly attack Obama out of fear.

5. 50% of the country says they will NOT vote for Hillary, in the latest polls.


I like Hillary, but I don't think she is the kind of candidate who will do well in the General Election. Especially if half the country CAN'T STAND HER, it seems.

[William769]

16. You like Hillary?

Oh please! :eyes: Thats like saying Bush Likes Iraqi's. :eyes:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

22. well, he does. He likes them

as targets,
as a vehicle to be a war president
as an excuse to push troops into Iran
as a reason to play with his toy soldiers and tanks and ships on his desk in the Oval office.

[ElizabethDC]

18. Well

Hillary hasn't been following Obama around - she's been hosting fundraisers in Hollywood for years now; it's not like Obama came up with the idea. Also,

Hillary has not bought anyone's endorsements. Last week, Vilsack said that he intends to pay off his own debts (someone on DU posted a link to a story about this last week - I don't have it bookmarked). Regardless, it's not uncommon for candidates to pay off debts of those who endorse them - Dean did it with Carol Moseley Braun in '04, and I'm sure there are other examples

I'm not sure when Hillary has foolishly attacked Obama out of fear. I think some people on her campaign have made statements about Obama (which I do think it unwise), but she herself hasn't mentioned him at all.

[jaksavage]

17. A small group make decisions

Registered voters are a minority
split that in half( for those who actually vote)
In half again for the dem/rep split
So really it takes 20% of voting age public to win an election

Our citizens should have to vote to recieve govt programmes

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20. I am so sick of idealists

who are not willing to stoop to the level of the republicans, only to be left outside looking in. I want a candidate that will go negative, early and often, and hold those bastards down with their foot on their neck until he can hang the lifeless body of their campaign head down from the nearest streetlight.

That is how you win an election these days, and I suspect it was ever thus. I don't see that kind of dedication from either Hillary or Edwards.

[Perky]

21. I support Obama as well but.....

I do not see him as having the ability to take that tact either. He has an image as sharp, personalble...aproachable... and if he calls someone out it is going to be nice not negative.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. I bet he beat Hillary in fund raising. He's holding back in order to make an impact.

The Clinton campaign will be spinning like nothing we've ever seen.

I support no one yet. I'm waiting for Al Gore and Wes Clark to get in the race. If either one of them do get in, they'll have my support. If they don't, Obama will probably get it.:)