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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 10:55 AM
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two nuke plant events, one in Japan, one in US
Edited on Tue May-05-09 10:56 AM by ensho

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index.php?smp=&lang=eng

Area: USA, State of South Carolina, Virgil C. Summer Nuclear Power Plant, Jenkinsville nuclear plant


A small leak in the cooling water ventilation system of the reactor building at SCE&G's Jenkinsville nuclear plant has been reported to federal regulators. The leaking water is not radioactive and the problem does not involve any safety systems at the V.C. Summer Nuclear Station, utility spokesman Robert Yanity said Monday. "It is a maintenance issue more than anything else," Yanity said. Although protocol involves notification of state and local emergency authorities, the leak is not a threat to public safety, Yanity said. The leak was first noticed at 3:10 a.m. Sunday in the reactor building, according to a report posted on the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's Web site. Federal authorities said the leak amounted to a little more than one-third a gallon per hour. "They haven't exactly found the leak, but after an examination of the water, inspectors feel confident it is from a fresh-water cooling system," said Joey Ledford, spokesman for the agency's Atlanta office. SCE&G is continuing to monitor the leak and a "corrective action plan to definitely identify where the leak is coming from will be developed," the NRC statement said. Columbia-based South Carolina Electric & Gas Co. and its state-operated partner, Santee Cooper, own the 966-megawatt commercial reactor unit in northwest Fairfield County. The utilities are seeking federal permission to add two 1,117-megawatt units.
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Area: Japan, Shizuoka Prefecture, Hamaoka Nuclear Power Plant, Omaezaki city

Chubu Electric Power Co (9502.T) said the Hamaoka No.4 reactor was manually shut down on Tuesday afternoon. The No. 4 reactor at the plant in the Hamaoka nuclear power plant was shut down after high hydrogen concentration was observed at its gaseous waste disposal system.
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no more nuke plants or coal toxic ponds, or animal shit ponds

gives nature's ponds a bad name


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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 10:58 AM
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1. It's horrible how those events killed hundreds.
Oh, wait...
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 10:59 AM
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2. where did you hear they killed hundreds? do you have a link?
nt
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:07 AM
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3. Get your sarcasmometer recalibrated.
;-)
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:30 AM
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5. like I didn't know where you were coming from


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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:37 AM
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6. From an understanding that the facilities and their operators functioned perfectly?
I protested nuclear power plants way back when it made sense to do so. It doesn't now given our current energy requirements and the fact that far more people have died from fossil-fueled power plants than nukes.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:20 AM
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4. No, not a water leak! That water is used to make steam! Dripping water will be our doom!
Steam turbines need to outlawed! lol

I don't see why people are against nuke plants, it's the only energy source on Earth that doesn't originate at the sun (or other stars, but that's negligible). It's very safe and seeing as how solar/hydroelectric can only take us so far... It's necessary for our amount of consumption.

As far as coal goes, as long as it's clean burning, the only by-products are carbon dioxide and water. What's that... two things plants need to survive? No way! The only problems I have with clean coal are the ways that it is collected.

Technology really is a great thing, if you're so scared of nuclear power, why don't you become amish?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:40 AM
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7. ...
Edited on Tue May-05-09 11:41 AM by Javaman
"As far as coal goes, as long as it's clean burning, the only by-products are carbon dioxide and water. What's that... two things plants need to survive? No way! The only problems I have with clean coal are the ways that it is collected."

do you know about mountain top removal?

http://www.appvoices.org/index.php?/site/mtr_overview /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountaintop_removal_mining


As long as it's clean burning?????

Coal Ash Is More Radioactive than Nuclear Waste
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-a...

Environmental impacts of coal power:
air pollution (Union of Concerned Scientists)

http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/coalvswind/c02c.html

There is absolutely no such thing as clean burning coal. Please stop believing the total and complete BS that is being pushed by the coal industry.

If you like I can give you mountains upon mountains of information that further proves this point.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:12 PM
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8. It's not the safety factor of nuclear plants that is the problem
The problem is the disposal of the waste. When someone comes up with a viable solution for nuclear waste disposal (or reuse), I will become pronuclear.
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:01 PM
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10. I propose Las Vegas. You know what they say about it!
(I'm only half kidding...when the Colorado River dries up so will LV)
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OHDEM Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:08 PM
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11. Sure it's the waste, but not just the waste.
How about this? http://www.state.nv.us/nucwaste/news2001/nn11105.htm

Dr. Sternglass said the data indicates that cancer mortality in the counties surrounding the power plant - Somervell, Hood, Johnson and Erath - increased dramatically, 27 percent, during the second five-year period while the rate for the state increased 15 percent for the same period.

In Hood County, breast cancer increased 190 percent over the previous five-year period, and total breast cancer deaths for all four counties increased by 51 percent while the statewide increase was 12 percent for the same period.


Nuclear power isn't clean or safe. The fact that we haven't had a major tragedy here speaks to good engineering and LUCK. Nuclear is not the answer.
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:18 PM
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13. Sorry, but Sternglass is a WAY over the hill, senile old fart.
He finds correlation (but never any demonstrable causation) in places where nobody else knows there are places. He blames virtually everything involving radioactivity on virtually every ailment. Take a look at this little gem of idiocy:
http://www.radiation.org/reading/090423_ejs_to_doe.html
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OHDEM Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:23 PM
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14. I don't know Sternglass personally, but calling him an old fart ...
makes it seem like you don't really have an argument.
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:47 PM
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15. I myself am an old fart...and a non-senile scientist.
Which allows me the cachet to comment on other old farts whose faculties have atrophied. Thank you.
:D
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:14 PM
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9. My God! What if steam escaped?! There would be steam everywhere!
And that event in Japan?! It's absolutely horrible when a safety monitoring system detects a potential problem long before it becomes a threat, and the problem is then fixed by professionals. That really makes you worry.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:51 PM
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16. Also, I hear their coke machine is out of order
And what do control-room operators without caffeine equal? Meltdowns, that's what!
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:13 PM
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12. OH NOES!!!!!!!!!
Dihydrogen Monoxide can be deadly

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