Whoa! Condi's face is messed up bad. Just on MSNBC

[tridim]

Did anyone else see that?

Mrs. Greenspan said it was an allergic reaction, but it looked like a shiner to me.

[rateyes]

1. Wonder if she had dinner with Judge Bybee last night.

I hope it is just an allergic reaction.

[angstlessk]

2. 'some people say' waterboarding can do that to a person or so?

[seemslikeadream]

3. some people noses grow for others their faces swell

Reuters Pictures 3 hours ago
Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice speaks to supporters of the Jewish Primary Day School of the Nation's Capital in Washington, in this handout image from May 3, 2009 at the 6th and I Historic Synagogue. An allergic reaction caused the swelling to Rice's right eye. Picture taken May 3, 2009.

[BuyingThyme]

4. She's alergic to guilt.

[seemslikeadream]

6. guilt and serial lying will do that to ya

:hi:

[closeupready]

7. She is soooo ugly.

Inside and out.

[rfranklin]

11. She's the female Hulk....

Watch out! (in my best James Brown shout.)

[Mnemosyne]

14. The human skin itches. n/t

[tridim]

15. .

[secondwind]

5. they said it was caused by bug bites apparently.

[tridim]

10. Another BushCo pretzel incident.

It's either bug bites or she got slapped around for Nixonizing her bosses. I'll go with Occam's razor on this one.

[saltpoint]

40. Could be. Sort of a Lord of the Flies vibe.

[leftstreet]

8. What's she allergic to...indictments?

[malaise]

19. Ding ding

We have a winner

[louis-t]

9. Looks like she's allergic to being punched in the face.

Maybe her 'husband's' wife found them out.

Oh, and I have to add, did the bugs survive?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

13. NO NO NO! A thousand times, NO!

Sheesh, don't any of you folks read modern science and technology journals like Harry Potter? Can't you see that she was practicing spells with Dick Cheney's snake, and something went slightly wrong? Heck, you should see the snake.

[madokie]

23. Hell I thought she was the snake

[ConcernedCanuk]

12. Karma

.
.
.

it happens

[prolesunited]

16. Not to defend her

but I got stung by a bee near the eye and it swelled in the same way. Then again, I had a public thing to do that evening and went to the doc and got a shot and it was gone within about two hours.

[saltpoint]

17. Perhaps we are witnessing a Kafkaesque metamorphosis in which

Dr. Rice, no longer able to bear the strain of duplicity in having visited violence upon innocent people, experiences the slow onset of transmutation of her flesh, her skin coarsening into an brittle, inflexible shell betokening a coarse, brittle, inflexible soul.

If anybody sees Stan Lee, tell him I have a screenplay he should read immediately.

[gratuitous]

28. Interesting synopsis, but ultimately strains credulity

An underlying, unstated premise here is that Dr. Rice would have a conscience or a soul, and there's been no evidence of anything like that throughout her long career. File this one under "science fiction." You'd have to really go back and have a long expository section where Dr. Rice is shown to have some kind of moral sense of right and wrong, and I'm just not sure it would be worth it. Look what happened to George Lucas when he tried to color in Darth Vader's background. I'm not sure the literary world is ready for another Jar Jar Binks.

[saltpoint]

30. : ) You present a strong argument. I'd feebly offer Rice's early years as

a Brahms specialist, this prior to her becoming a Russian specialist, and that prior to her becoming a power whore for the Bush administration.

[Ignis]

31. She really needs some sort of mask.

I recommend a metallic suit with a full-face helmet. Oh, and perhaps a green cloak with a hood to round out the ensemble.

[saltpoint]

33. I'm getting a visual of Dr. Doom, the Marvel bad guy who menaces the

Fantastic Four.

Condi of course would give painstaking attention to the shoes.

[Ignis]

34. Well, she'd need a castle in Eastern Europe, of course. (nt)

[Supersedeas]

37. a reaction to her own lucid perception of her own bad faith

[saltpoint]

38. Very possibly. There is an element of abandoment of principle in Rice.

She aspired to the concert stage, apparently proficient at Brahms and the upper-level repertoire, but in a music contest of also-gifted peers, she found she could not realistically compete with those with more talent.

From there forward it was all downhill.

She could have been an artist-in-residence at a small private college and brought many a young person into the sphere of the masters, but she chose power instead.

[Supersedeas]

43. and not looking or feeling very powerful at the moment

[saltpoint]

44. True. She is no longer under the Bush administration's protective bubble.

Why, even college kids and 4th graders can ask her questions, and -- here't the outrageous part -- she's expected to ANSWER them!

[jazzjunkysue]

46. I laughed, I cried. It was great.

[Vickers]

18. Hey, I'm allergic to fists, too.

:eyes:

[onehandle]

20. Doesn't matter. I can see her soul.

Now that's messed up bad.

[madokie]

21. You know that clip they were showing of the students asking her about torture

the other day she didn't handle herself very well. In a way made them all, bushco, look guilty as hell so I wonder if maybe she was paid a little visit over the weekend by the dark one, you know, the dick's boys.

[zbdent]

22. didn't realize her husb, er, the ex-pResident was a violent drunk ...

[Hekate]

26. He always was a mean drunk but they're legally separated these days. Laura got custody...

... poor thing.

Hekate

[zbdent]

27. Did Laura ever get the plastic surgery to fix her Joker smile?

Separated at birth:

[Hekate]

42. >sigh< If I had to appear in public with that jerk W I'd wear a mask too. nt

[jmowreader]

45. No plastic surgery is necessary

A trip to an esthetician would solve the Joker-smile problem. Permanently.

[BuyingThyme]

24. I once got a black eye from inadvertently rubbing fish oil in my eye.

We had gone fishing and all of a sudden I had a beauty. No pain, no stinging, little if any swelling, just a black eye.

I pitched in a Little League game later that day and lots of people saw it. But I don't think anybody believed the fish-oil story. My parents were arrested and taken in handcuffs from the Little League field for suspicion of child abuse.

I made up the last sentence. But the rest is true.

[KittyWampus]

48. this thread turns out to be an amusing read. Although your fabrication isn't really

"amusing". Just an interesting flight of imagination.

[Hekate]

25. It's definitely an allergic reaction to having her reputation publicly taken down by 2 kids...

... one of them a grade-schooler.

Dr. Rice has been Queen of De Nile for so long that she's become pretty brittle when anyone questions the "reality" she insists on. All the worse for her that she appears to have residual sanity as well as a residual conscience -- the cognitive dissonance must be awful when she's alone.

Hekate

[Politicalboi]

29. Floats like a butterfly

And stings like a bee. LOL! The truth is gonna make her look even worse.

[Captain Hilts]

32. Some allergies do make your eyelids swell. Some comments here are really low. nt

[mod mom]

35. These perpetrators of torture deserve the respect they earned:

Luke Harding
The Guardian, Thursday 20 May 2004

The scandal at Abu Ghraib prison was first exposed not by a digital photograph but by a letter. In December 2003, a woman prisoner inside the jail west of Baghdad managed to smuggle out a note. Its contents were so shocking that, at first, Amal Kadham Swadi and the other Iraqi women lawyers who had been trying to gain access to the US jail found them hard to believe.
The note claimed that US guards had been raping women detainees, who were, and are, in a small minority at Abu Ghraib. Several of the women were now pregnant, it added. The women had been forced to strip naked in front of men, it said. The note urged the Iraqi resistance to bomb the jail to spare the women further shame.

Late last year, Swadi, one of seven female lawyers now representing women detainees in Abu Ghraib, began to piece together a picture of systemic abuse and torture perpetrated by US guards against Iraqi women held in detention without charge. This was not only true of Abu Ghraib, she discovered, but was, as she put it, "happening all across Iraq".

In November last year, Swadi visited a woman detainee at a US military base at al-Kharkh, a former police compound in Baghdad. "She was the only woman who would talk about her case. She was crying. She told us she had been raped," Swadi says. "Several American soldiers had raped her. She had tried to fight them off and they had hurt her arm. She showed us the stitches. She told us, 'We have daughters and husbands. For God's sake don't tell anyone about this.'"

-snip

Earlier this month it emerged that an Iraqi woman in her 70s had been harnessed and ridden like a donkey at Abu Ghraib and another coalition detention centre after being arrested last July. Labour MP Ann Clwyd, who investigated the case and found it to be true, said, "She was held for about six weeks without charge. During that time she was insulted and told she was a donkey."

-snip

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/20/iraq.gender

Kids sodomized at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has the videos - Hersh
by Gryn


Wed Jul 14, 2004 at 08:33:32 PM PDT

(From the diaries -- kos)
Seymour Hersh says the US government has videotapes of boys being sodomized at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
"The worst is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking," the reporter told an ACLU convention last week. Hersh says there was "a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."
This is a summary of Hersh speaking at the ACLU 2004 America At A Crossroads conference according to EdCone.com (via Oliver Willis). I verified by watching the video myself (it starts at 1:07, the "worse stuff" part starts at 1:30).
There's more bad stuff in here, read Ed Cone's summary.
I'll try transcribing some of the more important bits.

Some of the worse that happened that you don't know about, ok. Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read they were passing letters, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib which is 30 miles from Baghdad <...>
The women were passing messages saying "Please come and kill me, because of what's happened". Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys/children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror it's going to come out.
It's impossible to say to yourself how do we get there? who are we? Who are these people that sent us there?
Chilling.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666

[Captain Hilts]

36. I agree, but the Condi/Laura being ugly comments are out of line. nt

[kwassa]

39. This thread is really low, attacking someone for their looks ....

because you don't like their politics.

it mostly seems to happen to women, too.

Hey, guess what! My eyes were almost swollen shut from oak pollen last week! Does that make me a Republican torturer?

Some people need to grow the fuck up.

[saltpoint]

41. Rice is a woman who has abandoned the goddess. She has long ago

given herself over to Power, IMO a testosterone-driven Bush family Power, which involves both the removal of justice from innocent others and the sustained repression of same in support of a multi-million dollar margin of profit.

Both men and women are subject to taunts regarding their physical personalities but I think it is much more the case when either of them happens also to endorse torture. As is certainly the case here, by Dr. Rice's own assertion.

In Shakespeare when the King is shown trembling the author suggests that his kingdom is vulnerable and wobbly and insecure.

[jazzjunkysue]

47. I guess those comments supporting Obama really did cost her: They're not

letting her back in the shop for adjustments, anymore.