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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:02 PM
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When does "old age" begin??
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Oh No! 'Old Age' Begins WHEN!?!


You haven't even come close to your 30th birthday, and you feel on top of the world. So young! Maybe not. It turns out we reach our mental peak at age 22 and then our cognitive abilities begin the long slow decline into old age at age 27. Yes, 27. London's Daily Mail reports that many of the well known effects of aging, such as forgetting your car keys, an inability to remember an acquaintance's name or losing your train of thought, begin in our late 20s.

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The study: Over a seven-year period, researchers at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, studied 2,000 men and women ages 18 to 60, all of whom were in reasonably good health and well educated. The volunteers were asked to solve visual puzzles, recall words and story details and spot patterns in letters and symbols. These are similar to the tests used to diagnose mental disabilities and declines, including dementia.

Can't remember where you put your keys? Find out four steps to improve your memory in just 14 days.

The results: For nine of the 12 tests administered, the average age for those performing at the top was 22, while on five of the tests, the first age at which performance was significantly lower was 27. Memory was shown to decline from the average age of 37. In the other tests, poorer results were shown by the age of 42, reports the Mail. But the first cognitive skills to go are reasoning, speed of thought and spatial visualization. Programs and therapies that are designed to prevent or reverse age-related conditions may need to start earlier, long before people retire, according to study leader Timothy Salthouse.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:05 PM
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1. Of course, Adderal works good for those uder 27
who can't keep a train of thought, and it works for those over 27 too.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:07 PM
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51. I guess you forgot that the word "under" has an "N" in it
Your welcome.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:07 PM
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62. My excuse is old age
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:07 PM
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2. 10 years older than I am (nt)
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:54 PM
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20. exactly
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:09 PM
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3. Theoretically, the body starts to break down in one's 30's
And given 25 was mid life for most people in the history of humans (life expectancy was around 47)...I dunno
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:10 PM
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4. When "both" knees hurt. nt
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:53 PM
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19. Shit - I'm already there. But my brain doesn't feel old, just my body!
Edited on Sat May-02-09 02:03 PM by csziggy
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 12:18 AM
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64. Yep. Or when you have to "double bump" to get out of a really soft chair
They say the mind is the first thing to go; I say the back is...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:12 PM
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5. when you finally end up being older than your doctor.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:15 PM
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6. or President. nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:25 PM
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8. That day passed for me in late January, 1993. (sigh)
:(
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:41 PM
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17. obama is two months older than me. i am safe, oooosh. gives me another 8 yrs
per you description, lol
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:44 PM
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31. Or the leader of your country's Conservative Party..
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:21 PM
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7. Kids forget where they put
things too.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:27 PM
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9. 46. wink. n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:29 PM
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10. When being "regular" becomes more important than getting laid.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:58 PM
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27. Sounds too gender-based for me!
.
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:30 PM
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11. When you let it define you. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:40 PM
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15. if that isnt a world of delusion. never been into that myself. can do
an inshape, happy, feelin good old, but old is gonna come, regardless
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sohndrsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:58 PM
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39. delusion equates attitude? Huh. That's new to me... n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:03 PM
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47. ....
:thumbsup:
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:30 PM
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12. Now I find out I was a has-been at 22.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:39 PM
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13. Several of my doctors are already dead.
HA-HA!!!!

Mark
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:40 PM
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14. Could this have anything to do with end of education?
Many "real world" jobs are much less mentally stimulating than college classes. I am 31 and mentally don't feel at the top of my game, but I blame it on my job and less intellectual associates. If I would have gone to graduate school and were doing real reseach, I think that I would be doing better. I try to read and do other mentally stimulating things during my off hours, but I don't have a huge amount of time.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:40 PM
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16. When you stop having sex.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:43 PM
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18. Depends. When you have to start wearing them.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:07 PM
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22. Ba da *chhhh*
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 07:53 PM
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41. LOL - but yeah, that'd be a good indication
.
.
.

starting the backward trend.

another would be having less hair than you were born with

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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:56 PM
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21. When you can't cut the mustard but can still cut the cheese.
:D
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Trucker Bob Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:10 PM
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23. Age
Remember, konnichi wa, even though you can't cut the mustard, you can always lick the jar.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:44 PM
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24. I can keep track of my keys better now than when I was 16-25. Smells like bullshit to me.
I bet it has more to do with the fact that 22 year olds have been in school more recently and so are used to using more of a variety of memory skills.
Just a thought.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:48 PM
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25. So Garrison Keillor was right when he said " In college you are as smart
as you will ever be".
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:57 PM
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26. I'm 65 goin' on 19
I'll tell you when I get there.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:17 PM
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28. As one's life gets more complicated, and we add responsibilities
perhaps our brains start getting "fatigued"...from having to keep track of all the important things we have taken on?

By the time most of us reach late-twenty-dom, we have become "family-people", and have a lot more on our plates, than when we were only interested in ourselves and when the next party was :evilgrin:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:22 PM
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29. since having kids over a decade ago, i have trashy me about poor memory until i remind myself
i am now remembering all things for four people and their lives instead of just me. and so if on occassion i forget, which i hadnt in past, i am so kickin ass for all i am remembering. like where son left his shoes, coats, hat, football, and to take homework to school and note and coat and and and.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:39 PM
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30. and all the birthdays & anniversaries of our partner's/spouse's family
I used to get furious when my hateful mother in law would gush over the wonderful SON she had (even though he married ME!), for always remebering her birthday, and mother's day..and for getting her the perfect gifts.. :)

He just knew her birthday was "sometime in October".. She died decades ago, and I still know that that nasty woman's birthday was October 8th :)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:02 PM
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34. (even though he married ME!),.... is that a requirement to being a mil?
lol lol.

the only grace i have going with her is i treat her son so damn well (she cant deny) and am a kick ass mom to her grandsons, lol lol lol so she has to give me credit, even though i am a pos.

i have two sons, lordy, i hope i can stomach their choice so i dont have to be that. lol. she certainly is a lesson learned that my daughter in laws will benefit from.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:06 PM
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37. You will be a great m-i-l..
I swore (and kept my promise twice so far) to NEVER comment on our boys' girlfriends & wives..

I am the PERFECT mother in law.. :)

I stay out of their "business", and have only kind & supportive things to say to them and about them :)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:43 PM
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38. that is how i see it
thanks socal
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:46 PM
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32. Next year. Always... next year.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 03:56 PM
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33. I know a 92 yr old that's not even close to "old age".
One of her great grandkids recently told me keeping up with granny is a full time job.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:03 PM
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35. Oh crap. So I mentally peaked like 6 years ago?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 04:04 PM
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36. I don't understand.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 05:23 PM
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40. 55
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 07:55 PM
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42. I dont thinkkkk sooooo!!! nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 07:57 PM
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44. bah hahah. so your answer, are you saying higher or lower, lol.
with some of the posts on here, i wonder.

we are talking about just starting old, not ooooold.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:00 PM
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46. Im almost 58 and old is a state of mind to me
Edited on Sat May-02-09 08:02 PM by Mari333
Take Young Republicans for example..OLDDDDDD



but then Granny D

YOunggggg

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:05 PM
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49. grinnin... your body feels the same at 58 as it did 35? raisin an eyebrow, lol lol
Edited on Sat May-02-09 08:06 PM by seabeyond
how we feel in our mind is a whole lot of diference then our body aging. i thought this is what it was about

dont know why people are bothered with the word old.

i am not. it is what it is..... doesnt mean i cant do it wonderfully

edit: i love the granny lady
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:07 PM
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52. Actually it feels about the same as I did at 35
go figure. Im a vegan, maybe thats why.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:14 PM
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54. hm. a miracle, you are a miracle. hm. lol lol. i am pretty fit. always have been
and still over last couple years i have noticed shifts in the old body.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:16 PM
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56. well I can see the ageing which I think is fun
everything is going south..its like my body is heading back to the earth..ashes to ashes and all that..
but I think its a hoot...! and I lie and say Im 65 to get the senior discount..
I stoop over on purpose to get 10 percent off..
otherwise Im still feeling pretty nifty.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:20 PM
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59. thats cool mari
and that is all i am saying. i agree with all of you saying it is in spirit, mind, whatever. my kids are still young, so i am still in that place. it is a cool place to be as i age. but age i do see... and since i am just steppin foot in, i am curious about others feeling on it and approach to it. i too like to see the "hoot" in it.

thanks
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 07:55 PM
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43. Its ALWAYS 20 yrs older then you are! nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:06 PM
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50. loll lol lol, lookin like. that is what i am concluding on this thread. lol. n/t
Edited on Sat May-02-09 08:07 PM by seabeyond
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:09 PM
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53. well,people dont like other people to define them
we can all define ourselves any way we want. Thats whats lovely about people. ;)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:14 PM
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55. yes we can mari.... and more power to all of us. n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 07:57 PM
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45. for me it was whenI turned 54
I finally went to the doctor and found out that the reason my left foot was so swollen was because of a DVT. Its been down hill ever since.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:05 PM
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48. It's always 30 years older than I am at the present time...
it's how I assure myself that I'll never grow old...

:hi:

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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:16 PM
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57. in one's forties
imo...that's when the body started to break down. eyes, feet, back, skin, hair....brain

:(

ah well, you could be dead instead!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:18 PM
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58. Technically, it begins when you are born n/t
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:23 PM
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60. I knew I hit it when standing up
came with sound effects.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 08:32 PM
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61. bah hahahha. i thought you were going ot say something else
and i was going to say, when you use a grunt to help you up. lol lol. oh, dontcha love it
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:01 PM
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63. whatever my current age is, plus 30. n/t
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