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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 09:53 PM
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Can Chinese Companies Be (Effectively) Sued For Killer Food?
Now that Clinton and Edwards and so forth have given us the job-obliterating miracle of 'free' trade with tiny-wage countries...

OK, so we'll be getting all of our goods and food from China and the rest. When something goes wrong can we at least sue? Or is that rigged too, as a practical matter?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 09:54 PM
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1. Edwards has never been a supporter of 'free' trade. Never ever. (nt)
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:01 PM
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3. Voted For Permanent 'Free' Trade With China
And that's the one that conts most, no?

Also voted for other lovely 'free' trade bills: http://www.ontheissues.org/John_Edwards.htm#Free_Trade
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:07 PM
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5. EDWARDS: I didn't vote for NAFTA. I campaigned against NAFTA. I voted against
EDWARDS: I didn't vote for NAFTA. I campaigned against NAFTA. I voted against the Chilean trade agreement, against the Caribbean trade agreement, against the Singapore trade agreement, against final passage of fast track for this president. Gephardt has sent out mailings attacking and identifying all of us and putting us in the same category.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/John_Edwards_Free_Trade...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:12 PM
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6. Oh How Clever
Edwards was not in office when NAFTA was passed.

As to the 'free' trade stuff that got voted on when he WAS in office - he voted against some, voted for some. He voted FOR permanent 'free' trade with China - the most important of them all.

If he were truly for 'the little guy', he'd have voted against all of them.

Whey are you defending his behavior?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:15 PM
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7. Why are you twisting his policies to be in the same league as Clinton who campaigned for NAFTA.
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 10:17 PM by w4rma
Who has actively, and by proxy many times forcefully, put people in power who have promoted 'free' trade. And who was one of the board members of Wal-Mart.

You're about as disingenuous as they can get, "MannyGoldstein".

What's your real agenda?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:22 PM
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9. It Is What It Is
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 10:24 PM by MannyGoldstein
Look, I'm not putting them in the same league.

But Edwards' voting record is his voting record. Why can't you just acknowledge that? You can still vote for the guy - but he is what he is.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:25 PM
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10. He is not what you say he is. Of the top 3 candidates he has the best record and positions
on trade.

And you did put them in the same league. You equalized them in your OP. "Clinton and Edwards" You denoted no difference. Don't lie, please.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:32 PM
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11. Does He Really Have The Best Record?
It's great if he does have the best record - please show us the evidence.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:34 PM
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12. Yes. And you still haven't changed your OP to accurately reflect what you said about them not being
in the same league.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:38 PM
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13. On Free Trade, I See No Evidence That They Are Different
They are not generally in the same league - although I'd really not like either of them to be the Democratic choice.

On 'free' trade, I don't see much of a difference between Clinton and Edwards. They voted against the minor bills, but voted for the big ones.

While NAFTA gets more press than China, the Chinese trade is much, much more important. Edwards voted for permanent 'free' trade with China, while Clinton did not - but she would have if she wer in office.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:46 PM
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14. You contradict yourself in your first sentence. And you still haven't changed your OP.
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 10:47 PM by w4rma
It's like you're trying to have it both ways. Are you doing a little triangulation?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:58 PM
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15. Uh - OK
Have a good night.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:00 PM
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2. I would be suing Menu Foods since they knew about it for several months
before the recall
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:06 PM
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4. I don't know about being able to sue,....
--- But it seems reasonable that we could use occasions such as this tainted wheat business to do our trade imbalance a favor, and drastically restrict imports.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 10:19 PM
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8. Embargo Chinese Agricultural Products
before they poison our people next.
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