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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:16 PM
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Poll question: Did your local paper use the word "torture" in the headline of its coverage ...
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 02:36 PM by ColbertWatcher
... of the Senate Intelligence Committee's report, http://intelligence.senate.gov/pdfs/olcopinion.pdf">Declassified Narrative on DOJ Office of Legal Counsel's Opinions on the CIA Detention and Interrogation Program (pdf).

My paper is the LA Times, and their headline was "Interrogation tactics got the OK early on"

Also, if you could, please post in reply what the headline was with a link if there is one.

Thank you.

(EDIT TO ADD) I just noticed a couple votes for "my paper didn't cover it." If at all possible, please add the name of the paper that didn't cover the story.

Thank you.

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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:20 PM
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1. Here in Columbus they are "Tough Tactics"
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 02:22 PM by Ohio Joe
Sheesh... Douche bag media.
http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/national_world/stories/2009/04/23/copy/Torture_MCT_0423.ART_ART_04-23-09_A3_8TDL11C.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

Edit to add - I did not vote in the poll, I only saw it online so I have no idea what page it is on in print.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:24 PM
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2. Do they post a pdf of the front page? n/t
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:32 PM
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4. Not that I see but...
I'm going food shopping tonight, I'll look for it and come back and vote later.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:35 PM
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6. Cool.
I was just shocked at how "polite" the LA Times was with their headline.

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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:11 AM
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14. Sorry, still did not vote
My room mate Jeanna was not in the mood to go food shooping last night, so we just made some pizza and stayed in. Never got to see the paper for myself.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:29 PM
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3. America needs to know truth on torture policy - Chicago Sun-Times
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 02:31 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/1539627,CST-EDT-edit23a.article

April 23, 2009

President Obama decided this week that when it comes to this country's treatment of terrorism suspects, America can look forward, as well as back.

The president had made clear that torture has no place in his administration but previously had shown little stomach for unearthing the past errors -- and even possible crimes -- of the Bush administration regarding its treatment of terrorism suspects.

On Tuesday, though, the president altered his position, by not ruling out the creation of a bipartisan commission to investigate the interrogation techniques approved under the Bush administration.

Nor did Obama shut the door on the Justice Department's taking action, if warranted, against the officials who provided the legal opinions to justify those techniques.


First page of their commentary section on the left side of page.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:34 PM
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5. That's an op-ed.
The Sun-Times' front page, if I'm not mistaken, is this: http://www.suntimes.com/email_edition/frontpage_subscribe

It's a great story, but it doesn't look like it's on the front page.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:14 PM
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7. Kick for more input. n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:48 PM
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11. Kick for more input. n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 05:54 AM
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13. Kick for more input. n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:20 PM
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8. It took forever for this to hit the papers.
CIA Has 3,000 Docs on Torture Tapes

Source: Consortium News

By Jason Leopold
March 21, 2009

The CIA has about 3,000 documents related to the 92 destroyed videotapes that showed “war on terror” detainees being subjected to harsh interrogations, the Justice Department has disclosed, suggesting an extensive back-and-forth between CIA field operatives and officials of the Bush administration.

The Justice Department said the documents include “cables, memoranda, notes and e-mails” related to the destroyed CIA videotapes. Those tapes included 12 that showed two “high-value” prisoners undergoing the drowning sensation caused by waterboarding and other brutal techniques that have been widely denounced as torture.

The number of documents – but not their contents – was mentioned Friday in a Justice Department letter

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Mar-22-09 12:17 AM ..... I have followed this story all day. So far, Google News search only produces
about 52 articles for "torture tapes" and about 137 for "CIA torture."
I know this came out late Friday, but this is an abysmal response to war crimes.
It serves to illustrate how controlled the media really is, especially when one
looks carefully at who is writing about it and who is ignoring the story.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:32 PM
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9. Interesting.
It would be interesting to look through GOP-controlled media reports and see what shit they started after March 20, 2009 to see if we can spot any of their disinformation/distraction crap.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:10 PM
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10. Repainting the republican Party as Anyone except the previous Administration.
All the hoopla and scandal of Rush Limbaugh leading the Rs, or Palin, etc.,
is a MSM remoulding of the Rs to be as "Not-Bush/Cheney" as possible, and non-Rovian too,
seems a distraction with a benefit, preparation for what is happening to brand Bush.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:58 PM
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12. Good point. The GOP-controlled media is also trying to push the idea that ...
... the GOP is the party of the big tent, except that tent is not big enough to include members that embarrass them now, but who once inspired them.

Fucking hypocrites.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:49 PM
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15. Kick this poll
Come on DUers
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:50 PM
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16. Other: I have no idea, since I no longer subscribe to the local paper. nt
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:01 AM
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20. Is it not online? n/t
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 10:51 AM
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25. It is, but there is a fee for most things.
The only time I look it up is if I want the classifieds for something, and I usually use Craigslist for that.

I generally pick up the headlines from my google homepage, and dive into bigger papers online when I want to read more.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:53 PM
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17. Yes- We have a McClatchy paper: the Lexinton Herald-Leader.
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 08:02 PM by alfredo
It was on A-3 with a front page teaser.

Pressure Grows for Torture Inquiry
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Creena Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:02 PM
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18. I can't vote because I'm new, but
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 08:05 PM by Creena
I didn't notice anything in the OC Register while I scanned it at the store. The online Nation/World News section doesn't seem to have anything, either: http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sections/news/nationworld. You already noted the LA Times, which is my weekend subscription service.

For those who aren't familiar with the area or paper: I forgot to direct attention to the Register's wikipedia article(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County_Register), which notes that it's a conservative/libertarian/Republican leaning paper, so the lack of reporting isn't a surprise.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:02 AM
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21. Welcome to DU!
Thank you for responding and I'm sorry you're behind The Orange Curtain!

I am very familiar with that area!

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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 08:17 PM
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19. Wish I could help you, CW
My local paper is the Dallas Morning Whore, which I refuse to read. If I had to bet on it, I'm sure they wouldn't use the word "torture."
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:06 AM
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22. Morning Whore!?
I always thought whores were night people!?

They do post a pdf of their front page, but only for the current day's edition. i don't know how to find previous day's pdfs.

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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 06:36 AM
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23. Philly Inquirer - uses word torture but not on front page
There's nothing on the front page about torture. The only news on the front page that isn't local news is about the swine flu. The only article I could find about torture at all was an opinion piece which does use the word torture, and it's a good piece (headline in bold type)...

Judge Bybee's cruelty: In approving torture, his remoteness from the actual torturers increases his degree of responsibility.

Jon B. Eisenberg is one of the lawyers representing the plaintiffs in a case challenging President George W. Bush's warrantless wiretapping program

The political philosopher Hannah Arendt wrote famously of "the banality of evil" in Eichmann in Jerusalem, her 1963 account of the trial of Adolf Eichmann, the Nazi bureaucrat who handled the logistics of murdering millions of Jews. The recent release of the Department of Justice's "torture memos" is a good occasion to revisit Arendt in a new context: Circuit Court Judge Jay Bybee's own descent into the banality of evil.

On Aug. 1, 2002, Bybee, then an assistant attorney general, signed an 18-page memo to the CIA approving its use of 10 "techniques" in the interrogation of a captive al-Qaeda operative named Abu Zubaydah. The CIA wanted assurance that the techniques would not violate laws against torture. Bybee provided that assurance in chillingly detached prose. Here are some highlights:

<snip>

Arendt quoted Eichmann's defense attorney as saying: "Eichmann feels guilty before God, not before the law."

I wonder whether Bybee feels guilty before God. He certainly has no business being a federal judge. His presence on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals brings disgrace to that court. He should resign.



* Note: This is the paper online, not the physical paper

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 07:04 AM
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24. No mention of it at all here but that is no surprise we live a news vacuum
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