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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:24 PM
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Senator Feingold Unloads On Peggy Noonan: "Never Heard Anything Quite As Disturbing"
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 12:25 PM by babylonsister
:applause:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/21/feingold-unloads-on-peggy_n_189473.html

Feingold Unloads On Peggy Noonan: "Never Heard Anything Quite As Disturbing"
Sam Stein
04/21/09 12:06 PM


Senator Russ Feingold, one of the harshest critics of the Bush administration's nation security policies, says he can not bring himself to support President Obama's apparent decision not to investigate or prosecute illegalities from those years.

"Part of what troubles me are the lawyers -- we should see their law school degrees -- who consciously wrote these memos justifying and explaining full well those outrageous arguments," the Wisconsin Democrat said on Tuesday in reference to the Bush-era torture memos released last week. "I cannot join the president, or his spokesman, or Rahm Emanuel, who said we aren't going . I can't. I just disagree with them."

Later, the Senator took a swipe at some of the rationalizations for avoiding prosecution that have been voiced by Washington lawmakers and pundits.

"If you want to see just how outrageous this is, I refer you to the remarks made by Peggy Noonan this Sunday," he said, referring to the longtime conservative columnist's appearance on ABC's This Week. "I frankly have never heard anything quite as disturbing as her remark that was something to the affect of: 'well sometimes you just have to move on.'"

"Some things in life need to be mysterious," Noonan said on Sunday about the release of the torture memos. "Sometimes you need to just keep walking. ... It's hard for me to look at a great nation issuing these documents and sending them out to the world and thinking, oh, much good will come of that."


Feingold's remarks, delivered before the Religious Action Center convention, represent some of the most forceful pushback against the line coming out of the White House to date. Emanuel and senior adviser David Axelrod have suggested that prosecution of Bush officials is likely off the table due to the political sensitivities that would accompany such retroactive action. On Tuesday morning, however, the New York Times reported that White House "aides did not rule out legal sanctions for the Bush lawyers who developed the legal basis for the use of the techniques."

A member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and a long-time critic of torture, Feingold viewed investigations and, perhaps, prosecutions as a key tool to restoring America's moral standing.

"It is truly horrifying and unforgivable that anybody operating under the auspices of the United States of America had involvement in any of this," he said. "So I'm not even completely ready to {cede the argument} that people who devised these techniques should be off the hook. I understand the argument. I also remember when people said that they were just following orders. So that troubles me and I am thinking about it."
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:29 PM
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1. Noonan is fucking batshit crazy .............
This is a woman who, I am certain, still fantasizes about fellating Ronald Raygun. Yeah, the dead one.

She's so fucking nuts, I am absolutely at a loss to understand why anyone invites her onto these idiotic talk shows. She's goddamn insane.

Good for Feingold. He's one who can always be counted on to speak plainly, but that woman needs to be heavily sedated and then ignored .........................
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:33 PM
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4. her and buchanan make my head spin! n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:59 PM
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12. Consider CorporatemediaWhoredom and
you will get your answer on why she's repeatedly "invited" back.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:38 PM
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20. Frances Townsend spewing the same stink on CNN and nothing but glowing smiles from powdered faces
in the CNN 'News room.'
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:10 PM
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16. I posted about her right when I heard her say that Sunday.
When she's talking I think there's Grateful Dead music playing in her head. Stagehands have stapled her to her chair so she can't get up and start trance-dancing.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5488795
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:08 PM
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22. I agree. I saw that and nearly fell out of my seat. what an affected
dipshit, what a drama queen dimwit. I can't find words to fully express it but I do for Feingold: I *love* that man. He has so much honor. :)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:13 PM
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24. She personifies the deliberately delusional "sweep it under the rug" facade-lovers.
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 02:15 PM by TahitiNut
It's an attitude that I'm sadly familiar with ... all about appearances and pretense and rotten to the core. It's the attitude that looks the other way while children are abused. (Too messy.) It's the attitude that finds any excuse to "not get involved." (Too much trouble.) It's Barbara Bush ... not wanting to harm her "beautiful mind" with reality. These are the enablers ... the "lipstick on a pig" make-up artists. Jon Benet-Ramsey pageant sponsors and pedophile priest apologists and lock-uncle-in-the-attic avoidance practitioners.

Nooner just HAD to be sexually molested as a child ... and represses it. I can't figure out a more probable ontogeny.

:puke:

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:23 PM
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25. I completely agree...........
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 03:06 PM by Tangerine LaBamba
Not only a molestation history, but by a male in a position of significant authority. That could be her father, but, I get this strange relgious vibe from her, so I'd guess a priest. That would explain her constant sucking up to males in power, but not generous and kind males - rather, the remote and punitive types (which is what Reagan was, in spite of his jovial exterior, much like the friendly parish priest, right?), the ones with the power to hurt and punish, the ones that made it all right inside her head to hear about torture and say something as otherworldly as "it should remain mysterious."

One can only imagine the scene, as the priest tells the little girl to "worship at the altar of the Almighty," right?

This might be a bit overboard, but I don't think so..........................

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:33 PM
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28. Yup. Something definitely twisted like that ... if only in her fantasies, even.
Her psyche is contorted in ways that I can only imagine has something to do with that. She's sick in a maggoty way that really triggers my "Yuck" aversions.


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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:56 PM
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30. The fact that they give loons like her and Coulter and DeLay and Cheney and Gingrich and * air time
is the only thing that makes me think perhaps the media is liberal after all.

A very devious and passive aggressive liberal. :evilgrin:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:10 PM
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31. Nice thinking ...........
That's one way of staying sane, hmmmm?

I like it ...............................

:toast:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:40 PM
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37. I do what I can...
thanks for implying I might be sane! :toast:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:30 PM
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2. Peggy Noonan must've been particularly drunk last Sunday, instead of her
just pleasantly buzzed look on Morning Joe. She sounded really "out there."

Somethings in life need to be mysterious? Does she get paid to say crap like that on TV?
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:46 PM
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7. She did continue on to say "maybe there's a better word,"
but then she did not come up with one.

With people like these, it's a wonder my TV is still in one piece.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:54 PM
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9. I think what enrages me is her phony speaking manner with her slightly flared nostrils.
Like she is above it all and full of wisdom. She has developed this strange accent, I guess to cover up the one she was brought up with, to make her seem more educated and intelligent than she really is. "Supercilious" is a good word to use in describing her...
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:11 PM
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23. I agree. I think she thinks she's madame something or other in a
French salon during the golden age of the sun king or some such shit. I think she is the kind of dame who fantasizes of being the courtesan old hag of some monarch, whispering advice into his ear. She actually makes me upchuck and Jon Stewart has the same reaction to her remarks.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:23 PM
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26. You're right on. There comes a time when this arched, pained way of speaking
becomes caricature and that time has come for Peggy. Once Jon Stewart starts with you the way he did, you'll get down from your high horse, if you know what's good for you. Peggy has become laughingstock now to a whole generation of TDS viewers who adore Stewart. Peggy better hold tight to that gig of hers at the WSJ. Her days are numbered...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:01 PM
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14. With people like those..it's the reason
I stopped watching cable dangerousditzheads in 2002.

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:29 PM
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19. So, she sounds like that 'cause she's hammered or is it some kind
of douche baggy country club intonation that she uses in front of the camera. Swear I can't tell. She has the most annoying condescending speaking manner. :shrug:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:26 PM
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27. I chalked it up to her tippling because I couldn't believe that any sober person
would deliberately talk that way. Well, now Jon Stewart has kicked her fanny. We'll see what's next. I can't imagine her going on his show -- well, I CAN but I don't think she will.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:31 PM
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3. Almost makes me proud to be a Cheeshead....
K&R
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:37 PM
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5. Thank you, Senator Feingold!
:applause:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:40 PM
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6. check out last night's TDS
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 12:40 PM by GreatCaesarsGhost
Jon showed the clip of noonan and then mocked her.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:10 PM
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17. Her answer was in the same category as "why men have nipples."
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 01:10 PM by CTyankee
That was a good one. Ah, Peggy was never lovelier...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:50 PM
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8. Imagine the Allies, after winning WW II, saying about Nazi war crimes:
"Some things in life need to be mysterious."
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:56 PM
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10. "Honey, the only mystery about this is why you are on this TV show."
That would be my response to what she said, if only I had been there to say it...
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:47 PM
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29. It's taken a long time, but now that the American Nazis have held office openly for eight years,
And Obama thus looks like a flaming radical liberal to some people, we have taken that exact position.

Nothing to see here, just move on.


:shrug:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 12:57 PM
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11. peggy noonan did kinda show
her emptyheaded side. So glad Senator Feingold is holding her accountable for her vapidity.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:01 PM
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13. Noonan still fucks Reagan's bloated corpse
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:03 PM
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15. "Move on," and "look ahead" = institutional collusion, and NOTHING more
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 01:15 PM
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18. Stewart did a great take on her. "Slavery? Keep walking. "
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 01:16 PM by valerief
Noonan looks like she's as drug-addled as Limpballs.

Edited to add:

Oh, yeah, Sen. Feingold ROCKS!!!!!!
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 02:00 PM
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21. Ms. "I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullsh-t about narratives"
Yep. Senator Feingold is right. That comment was extremely disturbing.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:16 PM
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32. Just like Iran/Contra.......time to move on
That only works for you assholes once, sweetie.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:20 PM
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33. Feingold needs to have a talk with
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:22 PM
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34. If we're lucky Russ will be sitting in the Oval Office one day.....
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:23 PM
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35. Feingold: "I frankly have never heard anything quite as disturbing as her remark" Really?
Really Sen. Feingold? Ever hear of Glen Beck? Hannity?

Do you not get Fox News?
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 05:24 PM
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36. Noonan makes the arguments I've heard made right here at DU
so.... :shrug:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:15 PM
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38. Noonan is an idiot. nt
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:53 AM
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39. If there is evidence of a crime either prosecute or become an accomplice. No other choice.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:02 PM
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40. Agreed
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:19 PM
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41. Too many nooners Nooner? or are you NUTZ
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:22 PM
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42. I agree with every word Russ said
All of it. Thanks for posting this, and thanks to Senator Feingold.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:49 PM
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43. I thought the entire program of This Week was a disgrace, with Noonan
playing the part of "philosophical torture enabler" to George Will's Sgt. Schultz in regard to the torture legitimizing fig leaf of the "Unitary Executive", he didn't believe it but he said several times that "intelligent people" did, so by implication that must make it ok.

As for me the only thing that needs to be "mysterious in life" is a hopefully near time question of, Whatever happened to Noonan's career as a corporate media pundit puppet?

Thanks for the thread, babylonsister.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:13 PM
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44. "Some things in life need to be mysterious" has to be from her neocon cocktail napkin...
swizzle stick & "Just say, Yes! to torture" collection
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