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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:22 PM
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Freepers favor Texas Secession
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 04:53 PM by Froward69
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2231189/posts

and they are freeping a news poll...


GOD DAMN TRAITORS!!!

go vote... right hand side about half way down...

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/state&id...

edit to spell check
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:24 PM
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1. Let them go.
Seriously, there is no great issue here that demands we continue an unpleasant union. Divorce seems to be the right course.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:27 PM
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3. Let who go?
An entire state that's turning blue with 34 electoral votes?

Do you really mean that or are you just jumping on the bash Texas bandwagon?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:41 PM
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16. I am not bashing Texas.
If a majority of Texans want to go their own way - let them go.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:43 PM
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18. Well, the majority of them don't
What say you to that?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:48 PM
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23. Shall I stay or shall I go.
C'mon darlin let me know.

If Texans want to remain part of the union, they are of course welcome to do so. If on the other hand, as their popular governor so eloquently stated, they would rather not suffer here - I say by all means, be gone.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:49 PM
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24. See? There you go
Perry is not popular. He won with only 39% of the vote. You can thank Chicago born Richard Friedman for that.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:51 PM
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25. Then it is a non issue. On the other hand...
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 04:51 PM by Warren Stupidity
if they want out - I say open the door and let them go.

How long does this dance last?

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:53 PM
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26. As long as I feel like it
:)
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:55 PM
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27. My feet hurt and I have to pee.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:57 PM
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28. Then you ain't no dance partner
I guess you'll just have to go back and hang with the wallflowers.
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:27 PM
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4. And take all the nasty ass freepers with them!
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 04:28 PM by Tripper11
Seriously, it's big eough...take all the basement dwelling, living at home anti-American/Obama losers with them too!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:31 PM
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10. Really?
Are you aware of how many hard working, solid Dems are in this state? It sure didn't strike me as an anti-American/Obama atmosphere when I was secretary for my district's primary. Just a room packed full of delighted Democrats, smiling at the poor Republicans in the next room, who couldn't get anyone to show up for their adorable "meeting".

I am a Texas Democrat. I am not moving. I love my state and I am willing to fight for it.

Can you say the same?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:38 PM
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15. I think any secessionist movement will eventually have to
confront the reality of providing for not only their own needs, including their monetary structure, but also their own defense, foreign embassies, and the myriad other functions of the Feds that the right wing hotheads just never seem to think of. I'm sure some smart guy will come up with the kind of taxes Texans are going to have to start paying in order to pass themselves off as a separate country, and it's not going to be pretty.

While Texas does have lefties, they need to face the fact that nobody in the country does "tacky" like Texas, and that isn't going to win the state any popularity prizes.

Add to that the bible churches propagandizing good people to vote for hideous men like Cornyn and Delay, and you need to admit Texas has a big problem and isn't going to turn Democratic any time soon.

However, the secessionist movement isn't going to get any farther than adding up what it's going to cost.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:42 PM
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17. Are you aware that the Texas Legislature
...stripped Perry's office of 96% of his budget and gave that money to veteran's and mental health programs yesterday? Direct punishment for the crap he siad.

There is no secessionist movement. It's just Goodhair spouting off to the extreme wingnuts because they're all he has left.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:45 PM
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37. No, there's no real secessionist movement
and for the reasons I stated, there never really will be. The state has far too much to lose.

However, we'll continue to be treated to the spectacle of drunken, ranting
Texas hotheads pretending secession would cure all the problems in their miserable lives.

I'm glad Perry got his hands slapped. It's about bloody time.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:03 PM
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31. I guess your state will be JOINING us Texans.... YEE HAW
As things stand right now it looks like Oklahoma, Washington, Hawaii, Missouri, Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, California, Michigan and Montana will all definitely consider sovereignty bills this year. They may be joined by Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania where legislators have pledged to introduce similar bills. Twenty states standing up to the federal government and demanding a return to constitutional principles is a great start, but it remains to be seen whether legislatures and governors are brave enough or angry enough to follow through. As the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress push for more expansion of federal power and spending that may help provide the motivation needed for the sovereignty movement to take off.

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/09/state-so... /

YeeHaw, we got us some NWPers to join us. Now I don't feel soooooo lonely.


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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:59 PM
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30. Oops looks like your state is part of the growing movement.
As things stand right now it looks like Oklahoma, Washington, Hawaii, Missouri, Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, California, Michigan and Montana will all definitely consider sovereignty bills this year. They may be joined by Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania where legislators have pledged to introduce similar bills. Twenty states standing up to the federal government and demanding a return to constitutional principles is a great start, but it remains to be seen whether legislatures and governors are brave enough or angry enough to follow through. As the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress push for more expansion of federal power and spending that may help provide the motivation needed for the sovereignty movement to take off.

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/09/state-so... /

YeeHaw, we got us some Northerners to join us. Now I don't feel soooooo lonely.


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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #30
51. You let me know when our democratic legislature and governor
start talking about secession.

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mattvermont Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:26 PM
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2. remind me...
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 04:32 PM by mattvermont
what do we stand to lose from their secession?
The joke I heard was that we would have to find Kenny Rogers music in the World Music section @ the music store
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:28 PM
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5. Texas has Suck Sessions?
who would have thought....
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:30 PM
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6. Maybe Texas could become to Republicans what Canada is to Democrats.
The place they always claim they are going to move when an election doesn't go their way.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:30 PM
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7. Well they are in for ANOTHER big disappointment
Texas isn't seceding anytime in the near future.
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:31 PM
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8. It is spelled "secession", and yes, they are traitors.
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:31 PM
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9. I say MAKE 'EM MOVE to ALASKA!
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:46 PM
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22. Hey, hold the phone. Don't start threatening us with forced freeper relocation.
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:08 PM
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42. nothing against the state... more a comment of others repukes
who said they wanted to move there after Obama won. Frankly, I don't know where I would want to send them. In fact, Alaska is appealing to me, but I thought the cold/ice would freak the freepers from hot Texas more than I would mind it!

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:13 PM
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45. I hear there is a lot of land at the bottom of the ocean.
Can we send them there?
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:17 PM
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48. I would fear more for the
Wildlife in Alaska.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:13 PM
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46. And then sell Alaska to Canada
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 06:14 PM by Renew Deal
:evilgrin:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:31 PM
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11. Might as well not even bother voting
At 86% the number of Freeper Texans that want it is overwhelming.

Besides, let them have their delusion, as Texas cannot secede legally anyway.

When that reality hits them and crushes their dream they will be even more demoralized.

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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:33 PM
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12. Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out
and take the Dallas cowboys with you.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:34 PM
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13. You'll be disappointed that it's not happening
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 04:34 PM by tammywammy
Thanks for your help in turning Texas blue.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:53 PM
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41. Thanks for your response to my 1000 post after being here since shortly after the 2000 election
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 06:04 PM by ribrepin
I'm more of a lurker than a poster. I must say that I admire your legislature. How nice that they are de-funding the governor's office budget for money for mental health and veterans. There's something up with unemployment and a slush fund too. Go Texas legislature. Boo Dallas cowboys.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:08 PM
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32. Get READY to join us.
As things stand right now it looks like Oklahoma, Washington, Hawaii, Missouri, Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, California, Michigan and Montana will all definitely consider sovereignty bills this year. They may be joined by Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania where legislators have pledged to introduce similar bills. Twenty states standing up to the federal government and demanding a return to constitutional principles is a great start, but it remains to be seen whether legislatures and governors are brave enough or angry enough to follow through. As the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress push for more expansion of federal power and spending that may help provide the motivation needed for the sovereignty movement to take off.

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/09/state-so... /

YeeHaw, we got us some NWPers to join us. Now I don't feel soooooo lonely.


And I say take ALL sports teams and dump 'em in the ocean. :rofl:

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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:46 PM
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39. Yeah that movement has been popular around here for awhile
During the darkest days of Bush I wished that Washington would secede and join Canada, but much like Texas, it's not going to happen.

When our governor won the last election in a squeaker, the east side of state starting making noise about creating a new state because the rest of Washington was too liberal. A state law-maker shut them up by stating that he thought it was a good idea so that they could start funding their own roads. All you heard after that was crickets from the east side of state.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:35 PM
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14. Secession.
It won't happen. But how come all those Texas freepers were going on about secession while waving American flags?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:44 PM
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19. Home schooling.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:44 PM
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20. Because logic and thinking are incompatible with little freeper minds
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:40 PM
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36. Because it's an empty, phony threat-- just like the whole "protest."

There was nothing real about it. I mean crowds that they drew mostly stood there with stupid signs. There wasn't any energy to them. The Texas governor did rouse the crowds into passion when he spoke, but for that, people were smiling like they were having a blast. Some protest.

I'm not sure Fox would try to repeat this thing. It was too shamefully stupid.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:45 PM
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21. Freepers suffer from the delusion that Texas would be viable without Federal assistance
Texans don't seem to remember that they were begging for assistance from the United States when they were in danger of being annihilated by Mexican forces. They don't seem to remember that Texas uses almost as much Federal assistance as they pay in taxes to the Federal government. If they were to secede then all Federally funded programs would be withdrawn. Yes they have a decent amount of resources, but they would not have the glorious existence that the Freepers envision. We have prospered as a United country. The loss of a state would diminish the nation, but it would diminish the state that seceded much much more.
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:58 PM
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29. A Russian economist on You Tube said the USA will break up into
six separate nations in 2010.

I think Texas will be a great country to visit, lots of places to get good barbecue. Guess I'll need to bring a passport.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:27 PM
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33. I like the one who already knows who to exclude...
I think we'd have to insist on strict immigration quotas:
For example, for every 10 from a hard-working, God-fearing state like Oklahoma or Louisiana, there'd be no more than 1 admitted from places like Michigan or Illinois. None whatsoever from California or New Jersey, states where the people have already made a complete hash of it.

And of course, no limits on folks from Tennessee, for obvious reasons of history and tradition...

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:28 PM
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34. I think it would be funny, since they would probably be re-annexed by Mexico.
So, by all means go for it.
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:21 PM
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49. Real tex mex food???????
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:30 PM
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35. Without the US Federal government, Texas will look like a 3rd world power.

A politician might call for secession to appeal to populism, but there is no way it will happen-- in a decade at least.

There are no way these polls are accurate.

For one thing, people have to get worked up and angry to do anything like that. What was striking to me when I saw the tea-bag protest photos was the lack of emotional energy. In only one was the crowd actually energized, and there, the mood wasn't anger. They looked like they were having fun.

They don't look angry enough to secede. If they go, they'll realize pretty quickly that they made a mistake.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:45 PM
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38. It's basically all about the Civil War which was all about race
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:46 PM
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40. Unfortunately, DUers are also looking forward to getting their race-war on.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:12 PM
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43. Because they are traitors and always have been.
They like to wave around the flag when it suits them, but they don't mean it.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:13 PM
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44. These Freepers are idiots
"Texas would see a boom like never before as hard-working, law-abiding Americans move there in droves."

Do they really think life would be good? They would be shooting each other in the street. They have no currency how are they going to get paid? And we wouldn't have to worry about the 34 electoral vote since we wouldn't count Texas anymore. All gun toting idiots who don't trust each other. Blazing Saddles here we come. And look they still think they would be called Americans. LOL!

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:17 PM
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47. Texas would see a boom all right.
:nuke:
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:25 PM
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50. LOL!
I voted yes. I figure why not let them have their dream. :rofl: It ain't gonna happen anyway. These idiots have no idea what they are asking for.
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