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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:07 PM
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TED NUGENT IS A CHILD MOLESTER!

Courtney Love on the Howard Stern show.. "He went down on me when I was eleven"

Ted's own daughters "She was so young all she wanted to do was play basketball" VH1 documentary.

And he has a camp for KIDS!

>>>>>>>

TED NUGENT, GUN RIGHTS ADVOCATE: Well, I started the Ted Nugent Camp for Kids charity, Miles, many years ago.

And we have proven, statistically, what the report just said on your show there, is that it's safer for kids to go hunting than to go skateboarding or camping or canoeing or skiing or any number of sports that are out there. Ultimately, the decision should be in the hands of the parent. The parents are in tune with their children.

In my own experience, we have taken children out 5 and 6 and 7 years old. You -- you hear me right, 5, 6 and 7...

http://www.tednugent.com/hunting/news/2005/default.aspx...

I just had to post this since Chester the molester is on the Glenn Beck Show!

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:10 PM
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1. Do you really want to make such a claim so publicly without having proof?
Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 04:10 PM by closeupready
I mean, I know he's a public figure and can't be libeled, but still.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:14 PM
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5. he had to legally adopt one wife to avoid statutory rape charges
and how he stayed out of Vietnam is a story too.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:13 PM
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17. TRUE!
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:20 PM
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21. He claimed
Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 05:20 PM by QueenOfCalifornia
to shit in his pants (in a Rolling Stone article) and didn't take the pants off for a week and then reported to his draft board... :eyes:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:25 PM
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9. He CAN be 'libelled.' Depends on knowledge + intent
of writer, in case of libel, and speaker, in case of slander.
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:12 PM
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28. Not proof by itself, but here's the audio of her making the allegation
Starting at about 9 minutes into the clip, she's pressured into revealing her age at the time she gave Ted Nugent oral sex: 12 and a half years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtqyl1N4n0&feature=rela...
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:11 PM
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2. He boinked a girl I knew in H.S.
Would call her up when his show stopped in Austin and he'd buy her a bunch of gifts then back to the hotel.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:17 PM
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7. Was she underage when he boinked her?
That's crazy.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:13 PM
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18. How old was she?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:12 PM
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3. People say Ted Nugent fucked his own daughter
Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 04:12 PM by mitchum
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:12 PM
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4. I Can See That
He's a typical gun nut right wing chickenhawk, so I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility.
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No More Bushbots Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:17 PM
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6. Yes. Let's see some reliable links to backup your bullshit.
OK. We get the fact that you don't agree with Ted Nugent.
But do you really want to back that statement up with a comment from Courtney Love?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:19 PM
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8. Why would Courtney love's word not be valid?
Courtney Love may be a ditz. She may be a drug addict.

However, neither of those things cause someone to suggest allegations of childhood sexual abuse.

If she says that happened, I think we should just take her word for it.

A person knows whether or not they've been molested---even if they're not the brightest person on the planet.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:46 PM
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14. And she might have those problems because of what he did to her.
I admire her for speaking out.
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condoleeza Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:15 PM
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19. Coming from Courtney's State and knowing some of her family,
childhood sexual abuse is pretty much a given in her life. I do not say this as any sort of judgment on Courtney, as I come from a long line of child molesters myself, and was also molested.

I am just not really sure that Courtney can separate herself from her "public" image and the recent stories about monies stolen from her "estate". She has certainly been her own worst enemy for most of her life and that is very sad. I hope at some point she will do what she needs to do to straighten herself out and be a mother. It is not an easy task under normal circumstances, it is nearly impossible when you are under the eye of the public. Agnes Bean deserves an advocate - Courtney isn't as important as her child is now and that should be her first priority.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 11:58 PM
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41. Are you serious?
"If she says that happened, I think we should just take her word for it."

Using your logic, why should we not believe Ted Nugent when he denies having molested her? After all, if he says it didn't happen, I think we should just take his word for it.

:eyes:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:37 PM
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42. Considering that molesters and rapists have for centuries gotten away with it
because people were more likely to take a male's word over that of any female or underaged person means that our bias should naturally lean in her favor, no matter how ditzy. Just ask anyone who's been molested by a priest or a teacher. It's not easy to come forward and say you've been molested or raped, probably not even if you're Courtney Love.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:31 PM
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10. the wiki article has the thing about the underage girl
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:37 PM
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11. Why does Ted Nugent have anymore credibility than Courtney Love
Both of them are lowlife pieces a shit.

And why the fuck would you want to defend somebody who crapped his pants for a month before his pre induction physical to get out of going to Vietnam and then bragged about it?
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:49 PM
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15. Don't forget that people who have been abused often turn to drugs
and alcohol.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:35 PM
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34. I wasn't abused!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:29 PM
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38. Heh. Enjoy then. :)
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:41 PM
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24. I looked at much about Courtney Love's life
I wouldn't call her a lowlife piece of shit. She does appear to have problems with drugs, but how someone becomes a drug addict is genetics and environment, i.e. being surrounded by other addicts. If being an addict means you are a lowlife then call me a lowlife piece of shit.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:34 PM
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33. I know nothing about you except that you post on DU
and that my friend automatically gets you a big plus with me.

I will never presume to judge anyone who does not parade their private life and personal problems in front of me and Courtney Love, for whatever reason has elected to do that. So I believe I am entitled to form my own opinions of her based the insight she herself has provided.

Perhaps I was too harsh. She's far superior to Ted Nugent but I still would be unhappy if my son married her.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:15 PM
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29. Why would you defend that POS? He has no redeemable qualities whatsoever.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 03:41 PM
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44. I believe her. nugent is a coward with a well documented affection
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 03:41 PM by roguevalley
for very young girls. He's a right wing tool and a dumbass. I believe courtney over him.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:41 PM
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12. Yea he is
And yet the laser point focus remains solely on Michael Jackson :eyes:

TED NUGENT IS A CHILD MOLESTER



BTW......

RUSH LIMBAUGH IS A PEDOPHILE DRUG ADDICT

:evilgrin:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 04:44 PM
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13. I wouldn't put it past ted
but Love's word? Fuck.


PS

courtney, release the acoustic/slow version of whose porno you burn.

thanks love.
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:03 PM
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16. so was Jimmy Page
. 
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:24 PM
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23. Really?! n/t
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crimson333 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:54 PM
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26. lori maddox only 14
and I always heard rock stars talking about underage girls in interviews as i grew up in 80's which really does not mean much as far as proof or make it right for that matter.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:15 PM
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30. True..but I guess we could list them though...
Jerry Lee Lewis is the first to come to mind. But now rappers are all over that. R. Kelly and Akon.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:56 PM
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27. And Steven Tyler
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:19 PM
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31. Oh ...Mick Jagger too....
He had sex with Mackenzie Phillips when she was a kid...like 13 or 14. She was the daughter of John Phillips from the Mamas and the Papas.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:24 PM
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32. Steven Tyler did ONLY because Mick Jagger did
What a wannabe.

I'm familiar with that Mackenzie Phillips story. And apparently Papa John had no problem with it. Wonderful parenting.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 10:44 PM
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39. Steven Tyler, seriously?
Remember that song, "Janie's Got a Gun"? That was about a daughter
exacting revenge on her father for molesting her.

Interesting that he would write a song like that late in his career, if he
engaged in that behavior.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:01 PM
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50. I don't think Steven Tyler ever molested his own daughter.
Not defending him for having sex with underaged girls, but molesting one's own daughter is an entirely different level of scumbaggery.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 11:42 PM
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40. Cocaine is a hell of a drug. n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:16 PM
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20. One of my old rants.....Calling Courtney Love!

Okay Courtney. The time has come for you to stand up and do your duty as far as Ted goes. If you haven't heard yet the latest Ted outrage has come in the form of threatening our two Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama. I won't bore you with describing the stupid suck on my machine gun drama. I actually want to talk to you about something alot more serious. Yes that little Ted Nugent molested me when I was 12 years old statement you made on Howard Stern's show.

I know since then you have told people you were only kidding. But I don't believe you.I think if you were only kidding we wouldn't have a video of his two daughters saying almost the same thing. No it's wasn't them he molested, but they say that when they were teenagers he bought home a girl about 12 from a concert and molested her for days. I sure you've seen the tape. They said it was sad. All she wanted to do was play basketball. That is sad, isn't it Courtney. Very sad.

I don't know if your a Democrat. It's hard to imagine you being a Republican. From what I can tell you don't vote at all. I know you probably don't want to get involved in a presidential election scandal, but if you did I'm pretty sure millions of people would be grateful. Because what we are looking at here is being forced to listen to the cat scatch fever fuckhead running off his big fat mouth over and over again for over a year. A YEAR COURTNEY! I don't know about you but I'm really not in the mood for that.

If you are afraid, that's normal. Who wouldn't be somewhat concerned about upsetting an aging rock star who screams and drools on his machine gun all day. Plus he is a friend of the "thing' sitting in the WH! I understand your reluctance. BUT this is about the country. This election is very important. We are in a total mess and the last thing we need is Ted encouraging the gun nut crowd to physically threaten our Democratic candidates. God knows it doesn't take much to set them off and our wimpy candidates are scared enough. We just don't need it. You know what I mean?

If that isn't a good enough reason think about this. Child molesters are pretty much incurable. We all know that. Can you imagine being one of Ted's 12 year old mistress right now? EEEEUUUUWWWW!!!!Having sex with old ugly Ted YUK! HE probably is making little girls suck his machine gun. You Courtney are the only person in the world that can put Ted behind bars were he belongs. If you come forward someone else will, then other because we know that once a child molester always a child molester. Did you watch the Doug Couey sentencing yesterday? The death penalty is too good for men like that and you know the only difference between Couey and Ted is that Ted hasn't killed one of them yet. Because he doesn't have too. NOBODY rats him out.

But you could Courtney and people would believe you. His own daughter's words would validate you. Will you get deaths threats? Of course, we all do, but you would be totally supported by the public once they figure out that you were telling the truth.

Do it for the country Courtney. Do it for the little girls. Just fucking do it. I know you can.

Joanne98

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:22 PM
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22. Link.......Courtney's Underage Ted Nugent Sex Allegation

scroll down for 60 Minutes piece)

Another day Courtney Love bombshell, but this one is particularly disturbing, so I'll keep the snark to a minimum. One wonders if illegal underage sex is what Nugent means by quality of life upgrade that the Republican Party represents. On the Howard Stern Show today, Courtney Love admitted, after heavy questioning, to allegedly having had oral sex with Republican Ted Nugent at the age of twelve. This is an impossibly horrible revelation -- is there a statute of limitations for this sort of thing? -- and explains quite a bit about Courtney Love's disfunctional relationship to the rock and roll lifestyle.

At the Republican convention several years back, Nugent gushed to ABC News, via a chat:

"I was very proud to assist, with our Ted Nugent United Sportsmen of America Texas members, to send Ann Richards on her terminal nacho date with Cuomo and help elect a real American as governor of the great state of Texas. George W. Is my American Blood Brother."

Nugent runs the Ted Nugent Camp for Kids, which, according to their website:

"Following Fred's direction on their last hunt together, Ted created this incredibly successful Kamp for children to learn about nature and man together. A 100% volunteer 501C3 non-profit corporation. Ted Nugent Kamp for Kids is operated by qualified families and individuals who deeply care about children and their futures. Every child is treated with love, affection and spiritual guidance by our dedicated volunteers. Lessons in resource stewardship, individual accountability, the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule, Hunter Safety and law, International Bow Education (IBEP ) and basic lesson in life are driven home in an open honest ,caring setting in the wild. Two weekends each summer for kids 9-15 will touch will touch them deeply for up-grade. True North."

Finally, In a Salon interview in 2002, "(Nugent) names a wild boar after Janet Reno ('the only thing missing was the purple dress and he-man haircut'), and describes the same boar as emitting a 'Courtney Love-like squeal.'"

http://ronmwangaguhunga.blogspot.com/2004/03/courtneys-...
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 05:50 PM
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25. Everyone knows that.
He later went on to marry a woman whom he started molesting when she was 15. (And that's HIS version of the story so you can probably shave a few years off of that.)

I doubt she was the only one. Hardcore freeper nut bags very often turn up to have an affinity for molesting the underage.

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 06:41 PM
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35. How does a young Courtney Love even know Ted Nugent?
Is she from one of those show biz families or something?
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:11 PM
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37. Her dad worked in some capacity
with bands I think
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:32 PM
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45. the grateful dead even
her dad's a toolbag though.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 07:30 PM
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36. Ah, Ted-- you sub-literate hack.
Ah, Ted-- you sub-literate hack.

In your heyday, you were little more than a five-and-dime rock & roller, who at best was everyone's third choice for the weekend concert.

You couldn't even sell out the Bronco Bowl, too shit-faced to remember the words to your own hack tunes (probably the only performer in the history of the Bronco Bowl to get booed), and now you've found a new calling to keep those sweet young things at your beck and call.

Rock and roll may never die... but you, Ted? You've faded away and are little more than a three dollar poster at the local head shop-- sandwiched between Frida and Oingo-Boingo.

Your swan song is buffoonery, and you'd be lucky to be a footnote in the history of rock. Here's to you, Ted (throws beer bottle onstage like we did when we booed him at the Bronco Bowl twenty some odd years ago).
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 03:28 PM
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43. That is beautiful writing about a very ugly man
Well done :)
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:57 PM
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55. Hey. I liked Oingo-Boingo.
Well, sort of.

:)
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:43 PM
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46. Isn't that part of the repuke initiation?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:24 AM
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47. Pft, his rock & roll fucking *sucks* that should have been an indicator...
:dunce:
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:14 PM
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48. Just saw about 3 minutes of him on a Glenn Beck replay. Check this out:
He said "the government is literally coming into our living rooms and blowtorching our paychecks."

:rofl:
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:55 PM
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49. Apparently, Courtney Love said later she was kidding .
Courtney made the statement on the Howard Stern show back in March of 2004.

"Howard wanted to do a real interview with Courtney so he tried to calm her down and asked her about her past heroin abuse. She told Howard that she was the last person to lose her virginity in her peer group. She said one of the first times she had oral sex was with Ted Nugent. She said she was young and she didn't want to say exactly how old she was. It was a long time ago and she didn't even have breasts yet. She was only 12 and a half years old back then. She told Howard that she didn't have real sex until she was 18 but she admitted she was lying about 5 seconds later."

http://www.marksfriggin.com/news04/3-22.htm

This was discussed here on DU in a thread made in 2007.

Sat Aug-25-07 10:17 AM

"I know since then you have told people you were only kidding."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:23 PM
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51. She was definitely not kidding
Stern had to pry it out of her and her remembrances indicate she was very specific about her age.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtqyl1N4n0&feature=rela...
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:24 PM
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52. You brought this up back in 2005
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I think you are on a mission of some kind. Found your earlier post when doing a google search on the story.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:25 PM
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53. And several other times, too.
It's creepy and weird.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:45 PM
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54. Howard should have asked her
Who killed Kurt Cobain. I don't believe Courtney or her dad.
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