Triana
(1000+ posts)
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Tue Apr-14-09 10:28 AM
Original message |
| Susan Boyle: The Beauty That Matters is Always on the Inside |
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(NOT that I expect the majority of people in THIS society to ever grok that...)... I dread to think of how Susan would have left the stage if her voice had been less than exceptional. She would have been humiliated in front of 11 million viewers. It's the equivalent of being put in the stocks in front of the nation instead of the village. It used to be a punishment handed out to criminals. Now it is the fate of anyone without obvious sexual allure who dares seek opportunity. This small, brave soul took her courage in her hands to pitch at her one hope of having her singing talent recognised, and was greeted with a communal sneer. Courage could so easily have failed her. Yet why shouldn't she sound wonderful? Not every great singer looks like Katherine Jenkins. Edith Piaf would never have been chosen to strut a catwalk. Nor would Nina Simone, nor Ella Fitzgerald. As for Pavarotti But then ridicule is nothing new in Susan Boyle's life. She is a veteran of abuse. She was starved of oxygen at birth and has learning difficulties as a result. At school she was slow and had frizzy hair. She was bullied, mostly verbally. She told one newspaper that her classmates' jibes left behind the kind of scars that don't heal. MORE... http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/featuresopinon/disp...
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I've often thought that one of the many reasons why music sucks so much now |
MedleyMisty |
Apr-14-09 10:34 AM |
#1 |
 
That's my take on it too. Exactly. n/t |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 10:34 AM |
#2 |
 
Video killed the Radio Stars? n/t |
PassingFair |
Apr-14-09 12:10 PM |
#16 |
  
BINGO! n/t |
QC |
Apr-14-09 12:57 PM |
#28 |
 
Corporations killed the radio star |
omega minimo |
Apr-15-09 03:54 PM |
#128 |

I wish there was a way to recommend the original article |
lukasahero |
Apr-14-09 10:54 AM |
#3 |
 
Yea there's no rating system or anything on it. Maybe it'll show up on yahoo |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 10:58 AM |
#4 |
 
We should post it in Editorials....nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 04:41 PM |
#132 |

For those who haven't yet heard this magnificent talented woman. Video |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-14-09 11:05 AM |
#5 |
 
Thank you for adding this. |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 11:08 AM |
#6 |
  
It was my pleasure! She is spectacular! |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-14-09 11:21 AM |
#9 |
  
So have I |
Control-Z |
Apr-15-09 05:39 AM |
#58 |
 
I'm a puddle of tears. That was effing incredible! |
Maine-ah |
Apr-14-09 11:47 AM |
#12 |
  
I've listened to it countless times and it still reduces me to tears... |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 12:11 PM |
#17 |
  
I listened to her last night on my laptop, which isn't the greatest |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-14-09 01:58 PM |
#32 |
 
Oh my. |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-14-09 12:25 PM |
#24 |
  
Having been in choruses when I was young I'm very critical when |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-14-09 02:01 PM |
#33 |
 
Truly wonderful! n/t |
ceile |
Apr-14-09 02:12 PM |
#34 |
 
Goosebumps!! I got goosebumps! |
knitter4democracy |
Apr-14-09 05:34 PM |
#40 |
 
Wow! |
InvisibleTouch |
Apr-14-09 08:44 PM |
#44 |
  
She's already in talks with Sony! |
tblue37 |
Apr-15-09 08:01 PM |
#139 |
 
That;s wonderful! |
SeattleGirl |
Apr-16-09 05:54 AM |
#162 |
 
Wowie! between the very human side of the First Family |
truedelphi |
Apr-14-09 11:15 PM |
#45 |
 
Thanks. |
timtom |
Apr-15-09 06:55 AM |
#64 |
 
Gave me goose bumps |
EJSTES2005 |
Apr-15-09 10:35 AM |
#91 |
 
I could just smack the beautiful people rolling their eyes before she started to sing. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-15-09 01:17 PM |
#116 |

I agree with you entirely. They were so smug and judgemental before she even |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-15-09 07:23 PM |
#138 |

Thank you so much for posting this! |
peace13 |
Apr-14-09 11:10 AM |
#7 |
 
How many more Susans are out there? I suspect quite a few. |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 11:34 AM |
#10 |

At the end of the day her UTube video has |
malaise |
Apr-14-09 11:55 AM |
#14 |

Susan Boyle has class! |
Are_grits_groceries |
Apr-14-09 11:16 AM |
#8 |

What touched me most about her beautiful performance |
malaise |
Apr-14-09 11:40 AM |
#11 |

Susan's performance was wonderful! |
frogmarch |
Apr-14-09 11:52 AM |
#13 |
 
I don't appreciate the way she was treated either. It was cruel. |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 12:02 PM |
#15 |
  
The thing that breaks my heart... |
redqueen |
Apr-14-09 12:13 PM |
#18 |
 
I know... |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 12:15 PM |
#20 |
 
The guys behind the curtain knew all about her voice |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-16-09 01:06 PM |
#178 |

I really liked.... |
gblady |
Apr-14-09 12:14 PM |
#19 |
 
That's the moral of the story, really. |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 12:15 PM |
#21 |

Thank you for posting that article. |
Frustratedlady |
Apr-14-09 12:22 PM |
#22 |

I shouldn't have watched her video at work... |
Lisa0825 |
Apr-14-09 12:24 PM |
#23 |

She has already released her first single! |
Contrary1 |
Apr-14-09 12:42 PM |
#25 |
 
Ya know I KNEW what that was before I even clicked on it! |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 01:26 PM |
#31 |
 
bah! |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Apr-14-09 02:14 PM |
#35 |
 
.... |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-14-09 02:38 PM |
#37 |
 
That was a nasty thing to do. Shame on you. You need to read that article, |
xenussister |
Apr-15-09 03:50 AM |
#50 |
  
I take it you've never been |
JTFrog |
Apr-15-09 06:19 AM |
#59 |
  
Yeah, right. |
Contrary1 |
Apr-15-09 01:24 PM |
#117 |
 
I listened to the whole thing as punshment. |
slutticus |
Apr-16-09 03:11 AM |
#150 |

and she has |
barbtries |
Apr-14-09 12:47 PM |
#26 |

I loved her spunky personality! |
Spazito |
Apr-14-09 12:57 PM |
#27 |
 
Me too. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-16-09 04:22 AM |
#155 |
 
That woman's got SASS! |
SeattleGirl |
Apr-16-09 05:58 AM |
#163 |

Triana, thank you |
Missy Vixen |
Apr-14-09 01:03 PM |
#29 |
 
I've gotten it too Missy. I know... |
Triana |
Apr-14-09 01:24 PM |
#30 |
 
I have had the same kind of experiences |
Bettie |
Apr-15-09 09:17 AM |
#80 |
 
Non-physically-ideal people of the world, unite. |
BreweryYardRat |
Apr-15-09 09:51 AM |
#84 |
  
BreweryYardRat |
rocktivity |
Apr-15-09 03:00 PM |
#126 |
 
People here made fun of the fact that GWBush was shorter than Obama, as if that is what matters. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 10:57 AM |
#98 |

Wow! Wow! Wow! |
azmouse |
Apr-14-09 02:19 PM |
#36 |

Beautiful, talented and inspiring! |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-14-09 02:51 PM |
#38 |

Ella Fitzgerald's looks actually did hold her career back, for a while |
KamaAina |
Apr-14-09 03:00 PM |
#39 |
 
Ella, Julia Child, Janet Reno, Eleanor, Kate Smith. God forbid you're big and/or tall. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 11:09 AM |
#102 |
 
I can't even imagine why. |
DangerousRhythm |
Apr-16-09 05:00 AM |
#156 |

K&R! |
Wednesdays |
Apr-14-09 07:27 PM |
#41 |

Thank you for posting this Triana |
Blue Diadem |
Apr-14-09 08:11 PM |
#42 |
 
She's got more pluck -n- courage than I'll ever have! Incredible inspiration |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 01:08 AM |
#46 |

I've watched the clip now |
MedleyMisty |
Apr-14-09 08:33 PM |
#43 |

Besides her singing, the second best part |
DFW |
Apr-15-09 03:02 AM |
#47 |

K&R for a truly beautiful woman with great courage. |
Kitty Herder |
Apr-15-09 03:03 AM |
#48 |

This is all about a Talent Torture Show? British Idol? |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-15-09 03:40 AM |
#49 |
 
she was taking care of her terminally ill mother for decades |
Mari333 |
Apr-15-09 04:28 AM |
#54 |
  
This is a fate that befalls a lot of women. Caregivers for parents. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 11:04 AM |
#99 |
   
As a caregiver... "She has lived and obscure but important life." |
targetpractice |
Apr-16-09 01:21 AM |
#143 |
  
All well and good, but not the problem. |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-15-09 11:35 AM |
#109 |
 
She didn't humiliate herself... |
targetpractice |
Apr-16-09 01:04 AM |
#142 |
 
Seems to have worked out Ok for her. Hottest thing since sliced bread. |
jmg257 |
Apr-16-09 12:58 PM |
#177 |
 
Are you kidding? She humiliated the panel and some members of the audience |
Canuckistanian |
Apr-16-09 01:11 PM |
#180 |
 
She *is* a person with talent. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-15-09 04:50 AM |
#56 |
  
... |
Mari333 |
Apr-15-09 06:24 AM |
#60 |
  
I'm sorry she chose to be humiliated. |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-15-09 11:33 AM |
#108 |
 
She did not choose to be humiliated... |
ljm2002 |
Apr-15-09 11:56 AM |
#114 |
 
She *knows* how good she is. She rightly believed that if |
tblue37 |
Apr-15-09 08:41 PM |
#140 |
 
Read much? Or maybe it's just that you are so full of YOUR opinions |
renie408 |
Apr-15-09 06:29 AM |
#61 |
  
I work in TV. I know what happens. You don't. |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-15-09 11:30 AM |
#107 |
 
We agree on the purpose of the show. I'll go you one better, I think the judges |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-15-09 05:36 PM |
#137 |
 
Check out this story. |
MedleyMisty |
Apr-15-09 08:13 AM |
#69 |
  
GOOD! I'm glad she has the support of her community. I read that even the people who teased her.. |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 08:29 AM |
#71 |
 
Wow. You Really Deserve to Have Your Ass Handed To You |
NashVegas |
Apr-15-09 10:36 AM |
#92 |
  
So you want a talented woman to be reviled? |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-15-09 11:25 AM |
#106 |
 
This Woman Was Not Reviled |
NashVegas |
Apr-16-09 10:45 AM |
#168 |
 
Those PRIVATE paths still exist. I believe you too readily dismiss the virtues of public |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-15-09 10:57 AM |
#97 |
  
Talent Torture Shows mock everyone. |
tomreedtoon |
Apr-15-09 11:38 AM |
#112 |
   
Norman Osborne was wrong about a lot of things, that being just one of them. |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-15-09 01:14 PM |
#115 |
  
Thank You. |
Karenina |
Apr-16-09 12:23 PM |
#174 |
 
No you wouldn't have a thread full of silly optimists |
TayTay |
Apr-16-09 11:33 AM |
#171 |

...and if her voice hadn't been so great... |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-15-09 03:55 AM |
#51 |
 
yes, really shallow. the UGLY people are the ones in the audience |
Mari333 |
Apr-15-09 04:29 AM |
#55 |
 
Yes. You are right. I was incredibly moved (and angered) by her performance |
RufusTFirefly |
Apr-15-09 11:21 AM |
#104 |
 
Read the editorial linked in the OP all the way to the end. Seriously |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-15-09 01:33 PM |
#120 |
 
The last line of the editorial: |
Marie26 |
Apr-15-09 02:30 PM |
#122 |
 
Which means we still have a *very* long way to go. (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-16-09 11:57 AM |
#173 |

That's a beautifully written article & goes well with the stunning performance Susan B gave... |
Hekate |
Apr-15-09 03:57 AM |
#52 |
 
It's a GREAT article. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 11:08 AM |
#101 |

watched over 10x over the day |
crimson333 |
Apr-15-09 04:03 AM |
#53 |
 
I'm still watching it - lost count of the # now! n/t |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 08:30 AM |
#72 |

K&R |
Solly Mack |
Apr-15-09 05:09 AM |
#57 |

I grok. |
JTFrog |
Apr-15-09 06:33 AM |
#62 |

This episode of the show should be called "Britains Got Pwned" |
stlsaxman |
Apr-15-09 06:34 AM |
#63 |

People tend to forget that for instance Ella Fitgerald had the WORST HAIR IN ALL OF JAZZ because?... |
slampoet |
Apr-15-09 07:26 AM |
#65 |
 
She also sweated like an NBA player at the foul line. She & Eleanor were the coolest US women |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 11:38 AM |
#111 |
 
Ella Fitzgerald had a voice of silk........ |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-16-09 01:54 AM |
#146 |

Barbara Streisand is such a powerful singer |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-16-09 02:40 AM |
#148 |

What a lesson in judging a book by its cover. The woman is amazing. |
Vinca |
Apr-15-09 07:30 AM |
#66 |
 
You bet. I've gotten that all my life. |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 08:37 AM |
#76 |

I Think |
NashVegas |
Apr-15-09 10:40 AM |
#93 |

She's an inspiration to those of us |
Mad_Dem_X |
Apr-15-09 08:00 AM |
#67 |
 
Absolutely. She's MY inspiration, for sure. n/t |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 08:31 AM |
#73 |

Oh wow |
Marie26 |
Apr-15-09 08:02 AM |
#68 |

Not to hijack your post, but I remember when my son was sick and dying with CF.... |
Th1onein |
Apr-15-09 08:28 AM |
#70 |
 
I know. People get their priorities (or yours) effed up. |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 08:35 AM |
#75 |

She was/is utterly amazing. I had tears when she finished. |
OwnedByFerrets |
Apr-15-09 08:31 AM |
#74 |
 
well its hit 5,424,591 views so far on the tube.. thats 1.5 million since last night. |
Historic NY |
Apr-15-09 08:44 AM |
#77 |

Everyone was shocked because she's not a "product" |
latebloomer |
Apr-15-09 08:53 AM |
#78 |
 
product schmoduct, that's what's wrong with the McMusic business today.. |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 10:27 AM |
#86 |
 
People don't want GMO corn (or other products either) |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-16-09 03:06 AM |
#149 |

This shows how devistating teasing and bullying really are |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Apr-15-09 08:54 AM |
#79 |
 
Another article says the damage from the bullying and teasing never healed ... |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 10:32 AM |
#90 |

Morning Coverage on This Story Was Sickening |
pmorlan1 |
Apr-15-09 09:27 AM |
#81 |
 
lame$tream media - the same type who promote no-talent pre-packaged artists... |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 10:28 AM |
#87 |
  
And now that M$Greedia has discovered that we've been watching |
malaise |
Apr-15-09 04:52 PM |
#133 |
 
Well, They're Probably Right |
NashVegas |
Apr-15-09 10:44 AM |
#95 |

since she got 6 million hits on you-tube before the US MSM discovered her, |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-15-09 05:11 PM |
#135 |

For Most People |
NashVegas |
Apr-16-09 10:52 AM |
#169 |

"contract" isn't "most people". it's the people who control the recording industry. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-16-09 04:38 PM |
#183 |

tears running down. my hubby made me youtube this woman. awesome.... more than voice |
seabeyond |
Apr-15-09 09:30 AM |
#82 |

Wow, the audience and judges were all set to tear her apart before she even started. |
cobalt1999 |
Apr-15-09 09:33 AM |
#83 |
 
I've been in her shoes. I didn't have the courage she did. I could not have stood there |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 10:29 AM |
#88 |

She knew she nailed it |
footinmouth |
Apr-15-09 10:23 AM |
#85 |
 
I think you're right. She needed to do that for herself! And, her Mom, the only person... |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 10:30 AM |
#89 |

Absolutely |
malaise |
Apr-15-09 03:41 PM |
#127 |

Wonderful! |
uberblonde |
Apr-15-09 10:44 AM |
#94 |

This is stunning article and a reminder of how very much appearances matter. For the folks here who |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 10:56 AM |
#96 |

She is gifted |
lovuian |
Apr-15-09 11:07 AM |
#100 |

this is lovely, but I'm still a little sad |
renate |
Apr-15-09 11:10 AM |
#103 |
 
Yes. Thank you. |
RufusTFirefly |
Apr-15-09 11:24 AM |
#105 |
 
1000% agreed |
Triana |
Apr-15-09 11:38 AM |
#113 |
 
That's why I really appreciate the editorial piece. Really a nice bit of writing. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-15-09 01:28 PM |
#119 |

I'll bet Liz Windsor was watching....How long before she sings at the Buck House? nt |
Captain Hilts |
Apr-15-09 11:36 AM |
#110 |
 
Well, the Royal Variety Performance perhaps? |
T_i_B |
Apr-16-09 05:48 AM |
#161 |

I had to write the author. Wonderful editorial piece. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-15-09 01:27 PM |
#118 |

ttt |
Blue_Tires |
Apr-15-09 01:43 PM |
#121 |

5,764,090 views and counting |
malaise |
Apr-15-09 02:47 PM |
#123 |
 
Self delete, wrong place |
Turborama |
Apr-16-09 05:17 AM |
#157 |

The moment the...audience and (judges) saw (her), they started to smirk. |
rocktivity |
Apr-15-09 02:47 PM |
#124 |
 
Did you hear that bitch |
malaise |
Apr-15-09 02:56 PM |
#125 |
  
Susan can get "beautiful" on the outside, but no amount of $ will make Brewer beautiful |
LynnTheDem |
Apr-16-09 01:24 AM |
#144 |
 
I think there are several things that were stage-managed, that being one of them. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-15-09 05:15 PM |
#136 |

Story perfect for our time. As uplifting as her voice. And for once, Simon had an honest expression. |
omega minimo |
Apr-15-09 03:55 PM |
#129 |
 
She's got a new hairdo |
malaise |
Apr-15-09 04:19 PM |
#130 |

Ere's to the Scot spirit |
omega minimo |
Apr-15-09 04:28 PM |
#131 |

I think that's her *usual* do, & the frumpiness was accentuated for the tv show. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-16-09 01:29 AM |
#145 |

Shouldn't have watched it at work. Had no idea. |
Faygo Kid |
Apr-15-09 04:59 PM |
#134 |
 
. |
omega minimo |
Apr-16-09 02:15 AM |
#147 |

up to 10,157,411 views since last night......I've bookmarked it |
Historic NY |
Apr-16-09 12:08 AM |
#141 |
 
11,382,020 as of writing! |
Turborama |
Apr-16-09 05:25 AM |
#158 |

Too bad Boyle never had a yen for opera |
eridani |
Apr-16-09 03:14 AM |
#151 |
 
Love it! By the way, our hymnal has three readings by Piercy |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-16-09 09:00 AM |
#165 |

Which ones? "To Be of Use"? n/t |
eridani |
Apr-16-09 10:36 AM |
#167 |

Yep, and ... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-16-09 12:45 PM |
#175 |

You are so right, Triana. |
SeattleGirl |
Apr-16-09 03:17 AM |
#152 |
 
There is a LOT of unrecognized talent/beauty before our eyes...... |
Mind_your_head |
Apr-16-09 04:20 AM |
#154 |

Absolutely. To me, true beauty is when a person touches my heart, |
SeattleGirl |
Apr-16-09 05:39 AM |
#159 |

Not sure why people find her the ugly duckling with the beautiful voice. |
dustbunnie |
Apr-16-09 03:56 AM |
#153 |
 
I didn't think she was particularly unattractive either. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-16-09 08:58 AM |
#164 |

Thank you. I thought I was the only person on planet earth who thinks she looks fine. |
dustbunnie |
Apr-16-09 12:56 PM |
#176 |

Her voice is luminous |
Shallah Kali |
Apr-16-09 05:40 AM |
#160 |

There's a bit of irony here, because we are only talking about her |
RadiationTherapy |
Apr-16-09 09:06 AM |
#166 |
 
We wouldn't be talking about her at all if she couldn't sing |
MedleyMisty |
Apr-16-09 11:14 AM |
#170 |
  
Awesome reply. Thanks. |
RadiationTherapy |
Apr-16-09 11:42 AM |
#172 |
  
Well said! |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-16-09 01:55 PM |
#181 |
 
It would be wonderful if the media held up good-deed doers as worthy of emulation on a regular basis |
Shallah Kali |
Apr-16-09 08:04 PM |
#184 |

Oh God even DU has bought into this tripe? |
Seen the light |
Apr-16-09 01:07 PM |
#179 |

Logic dictates to the contrary of your post, if her story received 11 million hits, |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-16-09 02:05 PM |
#182 |
MedleyMisty
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Tue Apr-14-09 10:34 AM
Response to Original message |
| 1. I've often thought that one of the many reasons why music sucks so much now |
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is because you have to be physically attractive. Lots of the best bands back in the day had members that weren't the prettiest corn on the outside.
But, as the song goes, video killed the radio star.
I'd post a long diatribe, but I don't have time right now.
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Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 2. That's my take on it too. Exactly. n/t |
PassingFair
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 16. Video killed the Radio Stars? n/t |
QC
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
omega minimo
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 128. Corporations killed the radio star |  |
lukasahero
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Tue Apr-14-09 10:54 AM
Response to Original message |
| 3. I wish there was a way to recommend the original article |
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Thank you for finding it - it's the kick in the teeth we all really need.
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Triana
(1000+ posts)
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Tue Apr-14-09 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 4. Yea there's no rating system or anything on it. Maybe it'll show up on yahoo |
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later. It brings me to tears to think of what this woman, and so many other people endure while their value as human beings is just tossed aside or worse, ridiculed. We really DO need a kick in the teeth.
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Apr-15-09 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 132. We should post it in Editorials....nt |
OmmmSweetOmmm
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:05 AM
Response to Original message |
| 5. For those who haven't yet heard this magnificent talented woman. Video |
Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 6. Thank you for adding this. |
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I've listened to it now so many times myself I've lost count!
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OmmmSweetOmmm
(1000+ posts)
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #6 |
| 9. It was my pleasure! She is spectacular! |
Control-Z
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Wed Apr-15-09 05:39 AM
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I've played it over and over. Then today I had my 17 yo son, who is a talented musician, listen, and then my ex and my 15 yo daughter.
And then I listened again, a few more times.
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:47 AM
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| 12. I'm a puddle of tears. That was effing incredible! |
Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:11 PM
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| 17. I've listened to it countless times and it still reduces me to tears... |
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..and her story is incredibly sad - yet she triumphed in the end - for herself and really, for a lot of other people too - anyone who sees her performance and her story. Incredible.
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Tue Apr-14-09 01:58 PM
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| 32. I listened to her last night on my laptop, which isn't the greatest |
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for audio and video and just listened to her on my desktop and the tears are just streaming here. If there were angels and angels sang, that is exactly what they would sound like.
I would love to hear her do a duet with Josh Grobin as he has a bit of angel in his voice too.
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:25 PM
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My oh my.
That was great. And I'm pretty snobby about voices. Thanks for sharing that.
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:01 PM
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| 33. Having been in choruses when I was young I'm very critical when |
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it comes to singing and she just blew me away and it's my pleasure to have been able to share Susan's extraordinary talent with you. 
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:12 PM
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Tue Apr-14-09 05:34 PM
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| 40. Goosebumps!! I got goosebumps! |
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Put that woman on a stage with a mic. She was amazing!!
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InvisibleTouch
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Tue Apr-14-09 08:44 PM
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I hated how the nasty judges and even the audience started out by sneering and rolling their eyes at her, especially when they heard her age (47) and her ambitions. Then she blew them away. Loved it! It was so interesting how, off the stage, she seemed a little frazzled and nervous, and yet when she stared her performance, she was completely cool and professional - as though the song itself took her over. I hope she can now realize her dream of a career in music.
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tblue37
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:01 PM
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| 139. She's already in talks with Sony! |
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She will end up in musical theater, I bet.
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SeattleGirl
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:54 AM
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Her voice was made for that.
She so very clearly conveys the emotion of the song.
I'd love to hear her sing other numbers.
She is just amazing!
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truedelphi
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:15 PM
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| 45. Wowie! between the very human side of the First Family |
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Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 11:20 PM by truedelphi
Witnessed when the Obamas introduced their new puppy, and this middle aged woman belting out her home run song - I am just so "Whelmed"
Thanks for posting this YouTube link
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timtom
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:55 AM
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If you hadn't posted this, I was going to.
I have major tears in my eyes. One of the most beautiful experiences of my life.
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EJSTES2005
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:35 AM
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Pacifist Patriot
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Wed Apr-15-09 01:17 PM
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| 116. I could just smack the beautiful people rolling their eyes before she started to sing. |
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And then the look of surprise on their faces. *sigh* Totally demonstrates our society's values.
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OmmmSweetOmmm
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Wed Apr-15-09 07:23 PM
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| 138. I agree with you entirely. They were so smug and judgemental before she even |
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sang a note. She Is Poetic Justice. 
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peace13
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:10 AM
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| 7. Thank you so much for posting this! |
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I wish Susan the best and thank her for that beautiful performance. In some ways this video marks the ugly and the beauty in human beings. Susan being the beauty and the rest of the judgmental boobs being the ugliest! My tears were for her beautiful voice and for the awful way she was judged before her performance. How many more Susan's are out there?
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Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:34 AM
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| 10. How many more Susans are out there? I suspect quite a few. |
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My wish is that they can realize their dreams like she was able to. Sans the ridicule she endured all her life and before she performed. Her performance truly was a wake-up call.
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malaise
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:55 AM
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| 14. At the end of the day her UTube video has |
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2,862,137 views and 18,884 comments. Give thanks for new media and fugg 'it's all image'
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Are_grits_groceries
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:16 AM
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| 8. Susan Boyle has class! |
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She also has a great deal of courage. I thank her for giving me a small bit of time that brightens my day when I think of it.
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malaise
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:40 AM
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| 11. What touched me most about her beautiful performance |
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was that it was the first time she sang in public since the death of her 91 year old mother in 2007. Hubby said she was clearly performing for the one person who loved her unconditionally.
It was too beautiful. I'm so happy for her.
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frogmarch
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Tue Apr-14-09 11:52 AM
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| 13. Susan's performance was wonderful! |
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I was angry when I saw members of the audience, as well as the two male judges, sneer and roll their eyes before she began to sing. What assholes. Even one of the guys behind the curtain (a producer?) said to the camera (something like,) "You didn't expect that, did you?"
I'm happy for Susan's success, but I'm still pissed off at the way she was initially received.
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Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:02 PM
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| 15. I don't appreciate the way she was treated either. It was cruel. |
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Worse, this woman had been treated that way all her life. Singing was her respite from the pain of it. And she even quit doing that after her Mom died. Her Mom told her that if she entered that contest, she'd win. And she did win. In a BIG way. But you know, I think we ALL won because of her magnificent spirit and courage.
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redqueen
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:13 PM
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| 18. The thing that breaks my heart... |
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is we wouldn't even be talking about this issue, if she didn't sing like that.
I wish I believed this might get people thinking differently about their reactions to superficial BS... but I doubt it will.
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Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:15 PM
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...I think of it as a wake-up call. Whether anyone will answer it is another story.
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Canuckistanian
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Thu Apr-16-09 01:06 PM
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| 178. The guys behind the curtain knew all about her voice |
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It was pretty obvious to me that they knew the big secret about her voice and that they were EXPECTING this huge reaction.
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gblady
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:14 PM
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this part of the article...
"Susan is a reminder that it's time we all looked a little deeper. She has lived an obscure but important life. She has been a companionable and caring daughter. It's people like her who are the unseen glue in society; the ones who day in and day out put themselves last. They make this country civilised and they deserve acknowledgement and respect."
She has an amazing voice...I look forward to hearing more from her.
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Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:15 PM
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| 21. That's the moral of the story, really. |
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Don't know that we'll all learn anything from it but that's the crux of it.
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Frustratedlady
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:22 PM
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| 22. Thank you for posting that article. |
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Susan has been on my mind since I heard her sing. I felt so sorry for her when she first came on stage, but she kept her composure and continued to smile even though she could hear the guffaws and cat calls from the judges and the audience.
We all should learn grace and forgiveness from this gentle soul. I hope she knocks the socks off many audiences until she decides it's time to take life easy.
Bless your heart, Susan. Your life has been bitter-sweet, but you (and, we) are the better for it.
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Lisa0825
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:24 PM
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| 23. I shouldn't have watched her video at work... |
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Now I have to go fix my makeup.  What a beautiful voice and a touching story!
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Contrary1
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:42 PM
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| 25. She has already released her first single! |
Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 01:26 PM
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| 31. Ya know I KNEW what that was before I even clicked on it! |
Viva_La_Revolution
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:14 PM
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I should have known better 
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OmmmSweetOmmm
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:38 PM
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xenussister
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:50 AM
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| 50. That was a nasty thing to do. Shame on you. You need to read that article, |
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and take it to heart. But, I'm sure you won't because you and the person who put that up have no understanding of what respect and compassion is. If I were to say more my anger would get me thrown off DU. Vile.
Anyway, that kind of music (that Susan sang) isn't what I'm into at all but I loved her performance and was in tears...every single time (I've watched it 4 times so far). Thank you to the OP for bringing it to my attention.
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JTFrog
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:19 AM
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| 59. I take it you've never been |
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Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 06:19 AM by JTFrog
Rick Roll'd before? Well, virgin no more! I don't even have to click the link to know I'm right. Ha ha! 
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Contrary1
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Wed Apr-15-09 01:24 PM
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I've read the article. I had listened to her sing half a dozen times before this thread even began. Susan Boyle is a lovely woman, with a beautiful voice. "Nasty", "vile" ??? 
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slutticus
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Thu Apr-16-09 03:11 AM
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| 150. I listened to the whole thing as punshment. |
barbtries
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:47 PM
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an amazingly beautiful voice.
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Spazito
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Tue Apr-14-09 12:57 PM
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| 27. I loved her spunky personality! |
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She did not let the sneering looks from Simon, the mocking laughter from the audience deter her at all! She KNEW she would "blow their socks off" and she sure did!
She could have let those scars from childhood bullies deter her from even entering the contest, she didn't! Bravo, Susan, you are a true role model for those who are not society's false and cruel identification of what is admirable !
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BlooInBloo
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Thu Apr-16-09 04:22 AM
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SeattleGirl
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:58 AM
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| 163. That woman's got SASS! |
Missy Vixen
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Tue Apr-14-09 01:03 PM
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I have read others here who repeatedly slam and denigrate anyone who doesn't look like a fashion model. They're fat, they're unattractive, they don't dress fashionably, therefore, they're not entitled to any human kindness or compassion. They don't exist. If they're not pleasing to the eye or a potential sexual partner, they're not worthy of the most rudimentary courtesy, either, and should be name-called at every opportunity.
Those of us who are less than perfect endure this on a daily basis. I do not kid myself that I am anywhere near as talented as Ms. Boyle. Yet, I meet people every day who make snap judgments about me before I've even introduced myself. After all, I must be lazy/slovenly/stupid, right? If I weren't, I'd be thin.
I wish all the best to Ms. Boyle, and I look forward to what I'm sure will be a long and amazing career.
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Triana
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Tue Apr-14-09 01:24 PM
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| 30. I've gotten it too Missy. I know... |
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...that's why this thing hit me so hard. It's probably true that myself and others will continue to be too judgemental - but I hope we're a little (or a LOT) less judgemental now. Maybe - or at least until we forget about this incredibly courageous woman. Not sure I'll ever forget her tho.
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Bettie
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Wed Apr-15-09 09:17 AM
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| 80. I have had the same kind of experiences |
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I cheered for Susan's amazing voice and for the fact that she is not one of the conventionally pretty women. She's ordinary looking like, frankly, most of us are.
Some of us are fat, some are thin, most are in-between....very few of us are model-perfect, but we're all judged by that airbrushed and surgically altered standard and it sucks.
I wish that people could see the beauty in everyone. Personally, I thought her smile, sense of humor and the sparkle in her eyes as she stood up to those judges before she started to sing were nearly as lovely as her voice.
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BreweryYardRat
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Wed Apr-15-09 09:51 AM
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| 84. Non-physically-ideal people of the world, unite. |
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Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 09:53 AM by BreweryYardRat
You women get it worse, I'll agree, but we guys don't get treated too terribly well for not being model-perfect either.
I need to lose 50 pounds. I'm a college student with a writing-intensive double major and attention deficit disorder. I haven't had the sort of free time I'd need to lose that weight in TWO YEARS. (Bit of sick irony for you: Back when I did have the time, I exercised regularly, but I didn't do the right sort of exercises, so I never made much progress. FYI: the "right sort" are compound weight lifts, elliptical training, racquetball, etc -- really intensive stuff.)
And I don't particularly concern myself with fashion. I prefer clothing that's functional and long-lasting. My wardrobe consists primarily of $5 T-shirts from Champs, and Levis' jeans: the non-fashion kind, without "pre-wearing" or any of that other bullshit.
End result:
A lot of people look through me like I'm not even there.
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rocktivity
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:00 PM
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:57 AM
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| 98. People here made fun of the fact that GWBush was shorter than Obama, as if that is what matters. nt |
azmouse
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:19 PM
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I felt like giving her a standing ovation after listening to her on youtube! I wish her all the success in the world!
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Apr-14-09 02:51 PM
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| 38. Beautiful, talented and inspiring! |
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Thanks for the thread,Triana.
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KamaAina
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Tue Apr-14-09 03:00 PM
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| 39. Ella Fitzgerald's looks actually did hold her career back, for a while |
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fortunately, not too long!
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:09 AM
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| 102. Ella, Julia Child, Janet Reno, Eleanor, Kate Smith. God forbid you're big and/or tall. nt |
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DangerousRhythm
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:00 AM
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| 156. I can't even imagine why. |
Wednesdays
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Tue Apr-14-09 07:27 PM
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Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 07:27 PM by Wednesdays
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Blue Diadem
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Tue Apr-14-09 08:11 PM
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| 42. Thank you for posting this Triana |
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I was appalled at the initial reaction from the crowd and the judges. Susan Boyle's strength is amazing. How many people could withstand that type of reaction and then go on to give such a beautiful performance.
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 01:08 AM
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| 46. She's got more pluck -n- courage than I'll ever have! Incredible inspiration |
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in so many ways. She's a living triumph of human spirit.
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MedleyMisty
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Tue Apr-14-09 08:33 PM
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| 43. I've watched the clip now |
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I thought she was beautiful on the outside as well, and I got a good feeling from her from the second she appeared on the screen. Like here is a real genuine human being.
So much of one that her influence even makes me feel a bit more loving and compassionate towards the shallow judging audience and judges than I normally would. Judging the judges and hating the haters is a character flaw that I'm working on. It helps to understand that it's rooted in deep insecurity and that most likely the person doing the judging was judged harshly in their formative years and was never allowed to just be themselves.
Bookmarking it to show to my nearly 60 year old mother next time she comes to visit. I think she will appreciate it, being the person who loves me unconditionally and who taught me (by example, never by lecturing or indoctrinating) to be me and to let others be themselves and to not judge and hate.
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DFW
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:02 AM
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| 47. Besides her singing, the second best part |
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I loved watching the faces of the judges transform from smug skepticism to complete awe at what they were hearing.
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Kitty Herder
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:03 AM
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| 48. K&R for a truly beautiful woman with great courage. |
tomreedtoon
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:40 AM
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| 49. This is all about a Talent Torture Show? British Idol? |
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Or ehatever it's called? You must realize that no person of any self-respect would agree to appear on one of these sadistic things. And no one with any humanity would agree to watch.
You don't need reports of soldiers torturing people or murdering without care to demonstrate the despicable nature of the human race. You just have to recognize that a bullying jerk like Simon Cowell has become a cultural hero.
And finally, a person with a talent - no matter what he or she looks like - would be out there trying to get work and achieve fame in the traditional method of show business. That path is cruel, but it's PRIVATE. You don't have a whole nation of gossips and idiots commenting on what you're trying to do - which is what this whole thread is about.
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Mari333
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Wed Apr-15-09 04:28 AM
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| 54. she was taking care of her terminally ill mother for decades |
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she didnt have time to go out and look for singing gigs. she was busy being an angel.
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:04 AM
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| 99. This is a fate that befalls a lot of women. Caregivers for parents. nt |
targetpractice
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Thu Apr-16-09 01:21 AM
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| 143. As a caregiver... "She has lived and obscure but important life." |
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Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 01:27 AM by targetpractice
UPON EDIT: Hah! I'm embarrassed that I'm reposting from the article the original poster referenced. I've been participating in too many Susan Boyle threads. Please forgive.  I'm glad this aspect of her humanity is not being overlooked. The following is from The Herald...It was an unglamorous existence. She wasn't the glamorous type - and being a carer isn't a glamorous life, as the hundreds of thousands who do that most valuable of jobs will testify. Even those who start out with a beauty routine and an interest in clothes find themselves reverting to the practicality of a tracksuit and trainers. Fitness plans get interrupted and then abandoned. Weight creeps on. Carers don't often get invited to sparkling dinner parties or glitzy receptions, so smart clothes rarely make it off the hanger.
Then, when a special occasion comes along, they might reach, as Susan did, for the frock they bought for a nephew's wedding. They might, as she did, compound the felony of choosing a colour at odds with her skin tone and an unflattering shape with home-chopped hair, bushy eyebrows and a face without a hint of make-up. But it is often evidence of a life lived selflessly; of a person so focused on the needs of another that they have lost sight of themselves. Is that a cause for derision or a reason for congratulation? Would her time have been better spent slimming and exercising, plucking and waxing, bleaching and botoxing? Would that have made her voice any sweeter?
Susan Boyle's mother encouraged her to sing. She wanted her to enter Britain's Got Talent. But the shy Susan hasn't been able to sing at all since her mother's death two years ago. She wasn't sure how her voice would emerge after so long a silence. Happily, it survived its rest.
She is a gift to Simon Cowell and reality television. Her story is the stuff of Hans Christian Andersen: the woman plucked from obscurity, the buried talent uncovered, the transformation waiting to be wrought.
It is wonderful for her, too, that her stunning voice is now recognised. A bright future beckons. Her dream is becoming reality.
Susan is a reminder that it's time we all looked a little deeper. She has lived an obscure but important life. She has been a companionable and caring daughter. It's people like her who are the unseen glue in society; the ones who day in and day out put themselves last. They make this country civilised and they deserve acknowledgement and respect.
Susan has been forgiven her looks and been given respect because of her talent. She should always have received it because of the calibre of her character.
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tomreedtoon
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:35 AM
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| 109. All well and good, but not the problem. |
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The problem is that she decided to HUMILIATE herself by appearing on a sadistic show that mocks and despises people. In fact, that she was a basically good person who was deluded into this horrid business makes it even more tragic.
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targetpractice
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Thu Apr-16-09 01:04 AM
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| 142. She didn't humiliate herself... |
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The broadcast was edited to downplay her prior to singing, but she knew it was her time...
She was confident that she would "rock" the audience. She said so. She knew her gift and accomplished exactly what she set out to do.
Finally, she auditioned because her late mother wanted her to do so... When her mother died, she stopped singing until her audition.
This story isn't as tragic as you want it to be.
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jmg257
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Thu Apr-16-09 12:58 PM
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| 177. Seems to have worked out Ok for her. Hottest thing since sliced bread. |
Canuckistanian
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Thu Apr-16-09 01:11 PM
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| 180. Are you kidding? She humiliated the panel and some members of the audience |
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I don't care WHAT sleazy show she goes on. She would rise above it and show her talent no matter what.
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Apr-15-09 04:50 AM
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| 56. She *is* a person with talent. |
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Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 04:54 AM by Hannah Bell
The Scots spinster tipped to win Britain’s Got Talent has revealed her show-stopping singing performance was the first in two years following the death of her mother. Susan Boyle, a 48-year-old church volunteer from Blackburn, West Lothian, said she could not bring herself to sing after the death of her mother Bridget, 91, in 2007. Boyle, who has lived alone with her cat Pebbles since the death of her mother and admits to never having been kissed, conceded she would make an unlikely pop star but said she did not have the confidence to perform when she was younger. “I know I’m an older woman but I would never have had the confidence to do something like this when I was younger,” she said. “I have definitely improved and got more confident as I have got older.” She added that she hoped her appearances on the show would help her find work. “I have been long-term unemployed and it is very difficult to find work, especially during a recession,” she said. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/artic... She has a slight learning disability from brain injury at birth, was bullied as a child, grew up on a council estate ("the projects") & is a bit odd. Sorry she didn't follow your prescription for what "a person with talent" *should* do.
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Mari333
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:24 AM
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tomreedtoon
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:33 AM
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| 108. I'm sorry she chose to be humiliated. |
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You do not take your talent to someone like Joe Pyne, Howard Stern, Simon Cowell or Gordon Ramsey for evaluation. Unless you are a submissive and wish to be beaten bloody.
And I thought the British were, in general, smarter than we were. Well, there goes THAT illusion.
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ljm2002
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:56 AM
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| 114. She did not choose to be humiliated... |
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...and she was not humiliated. She chose what happened -- a triumphant performance that, last time I checked late last night, had already garnered more than 5 million views on Youtube.
I think you may be missing the point a little.
Now if you want to complain about the show in general, and the tendency to encourage people to humiliate themselves, and the darker side of human nature that makes crowds enjoy that sort of thing, then, sure. I get it.
But then again: this show provided her a venue to display her talent in front of millions that would not have been available otherwise.
Now I will admit -- not only the crowd, but the judges pissed me off at the start. Surely they know enough not to make faces at a contestant before even seeing the act. That is low-class and unprofessional. Honestly, I found Piers and Amanda's face-making worse than Simon's: he merely looked a bit dubious, while both Piers and Amanda looked outright contemptuous of her before she started singing. The way they gushed afterward hardly made up for it.
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tblue37
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:41 PM
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| 140. She *knows* how good she is. She rightly believed that if |
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she could just have a chance to be heard, her talent would be recognized and she would become a famous singer--and that is exactly what has happened. The YouTube video has gotten millions of hits, and she is negotiating a record deal with Simon Cowell's Sony BGM label.
And she still sees the people who bullied her while she was growing up, because they all still live in the same area. She rightly expresses satisfaction about how they will react to her new fame and success.
I don't think she made the wrong choice at all in deciding to go on the show. If she didn't have the talent, then your take on it would be appropriate. But since she has the talent in spades, her appearance on the show has turned out perfectly for her and was an excellent career move.
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renie408
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:29 AM
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| 61. Read much? Or maybe it's just that you are so full of YOUR opinions |
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you can't comprehend what you read?? Is that the definition of being full of shit??? Hmmm...Idget, read the article. The woman is in her mid-forties and not particularly attractive. She spent the majority of her life caring for sick relatives. Just exactly HOW is she supposed to pursue the 'traditional method of show business'??
Fuckwit.
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tomreedtoon
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:30 AM
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| 107. I work in TV. I know what happens. You don't. |
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For the record, reality shows exist only to allow these judges to spew venom on poor people who want to try out their talent. It's an exercise in sadism. Of which you obviously approve.
I've seen this kind of thing for decades. I saw it before I even got into the business; ever hear of The Gong Show? Human beings are basically cruel, and these shows are not about talent, only cruelty.
And I didn't descend to personal insults or obscenity in my reply. I'm guessing you don't care about the talent contestants, but wish to be Simon Cowell or Rex Reed or some such other viper.
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Apr-15-09 05:36 PM
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| 137. We agree on the purpose of the show. I'll go you one better, I think the judges |
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knew very well what was coming, & that she was deliberately "styled" to enhance her frumpy appearance (e.g. that curly do isn't her norm), & little guy v. cruel world storyline is deliberately chosen to draw ratings.
Where we differ is your judgement that she "should have" done it your way. The dog-eat-dog manipulative aspect of business/entertainment is ubiquitous; there is no pure road.
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MedleyMisty
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:13 AM
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| 69. Check out this story. |
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http://talent.itv.com/news/story/item_100065.htm I think she has plenty of self-respect, and that the YouTube video has over 5 millions views now and most of the comments on it gives me hope that some humans still have some humanity.
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:29 AM
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| 71. GOOD! I'm glad she has the support of her community. I read that even the people who teased her.. |
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...congratulated her on Sunday. (the ones who'd teased her as a kid). They were apparently brutal to her and singing was her way of dealing with it - her respite, escape.
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NashVegas
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:36 AM
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| 92. Wow. You Really Deserve to Have Your Ass Handed To You |
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That path is cruel, but it's PRIVATE.
That's the whole point. THAT path is BROKEN because the normal cultural filters have been replaced by bribeable sycophants, et up with jealousy that with all of their connections and good looks, they still can't make a sound comparable to the beauty this woman is capable of.
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tomreedtoon
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:25 AM
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| 106. So you want a talented woman to be reviled? |
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By putting herself in the hands of a foul-mouthed bastard? I bet you're probably mourning the death of Marilyn Chambers, the abused and humiliated woman who wasted her life in porn movies.
And if you thing the judges - or the producers - of reality shows are not "bribeable syncophants," you really are a babe in the woods, practically inviting the wolverines to feast on you.
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NashVegas
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Thu Apr-16-09 10:45 AM
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| 168. This Woman Was Not Reviled |
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The second that voice was unleashed, that crowd went from ridicule to astonishment. If the judges had voted her down, they'd have had a mutiny on their hands.
One can never be successful as an artist if they never risk falling on their face. People like you who would hold back a woman with a voice like that because she doesn't look like fucking Anjelina Jolie should go into something nice and safe, like air conditioner repair work and stay the frack out of it.
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Uncle Joe
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:57 AM
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| 97. Those PRIVATE paths still exist. I believe you too readily dismiss the virtues of public |
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talent programs. For better or worse this gives those contestants the widest possible exposure to a large extent going over the heads of the three judges; including Simon Cowell.
A person of talent or non-talent can still choose either path; public or private, each have their place and benefit, they're a balance of risk and reward.
The truth may be harsh for the non-talented to accept, but by going public with their audition, reality is more likely to be accepted faster, thus allowing the contestant to move on to other avenues of life that may be more suited to them instead of dragging the painful discovery process out for years if not decades.
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tomreedtoon
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:38 AM
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| 112. Talent Torture Shows mock everyone. |
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Apparently, you don't recognize the innate cruelty of these shows. Or you didn't pay attention to what Norman Osborne told Spider-Man about how people want to see heroes FAIL. That is especially true of these modern-day versions of The Gong Show. At least Chuck Barris made it clear that the whole thing was a farce.
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Uncle Joe
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Wed Apr-15-09 01:14 PM
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| 115. Norman Osborne was wrong about a lot of things, that being just one of them. |
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Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 01:25 PM by Uncle Joe
For those not familiar, Norman Osborne was also somewhat insane and a proponent of the military industrial complex; of which former General and President Eisenhower warned us against allowing to accumulate too much power whether sought or unsought in his farewell address.
If people just wanted to see heroes FAIL, why was the audience and one of the judges standing on their feet cheering, many of them brought to tears within seconds after Susan Doyle started singing? Why has U-Tube received over five million hits with five star rankings, after being advertised as a heroic story of success, not failure?
I do believe on a superficial level, people can be quick and harsh to judge others maybe as a matter of Darwinian Instinct, however I also believe there is an overriding yearning for those same objects of superficial scorn to triumph and prove the judges' first impressions wrong as signs of a higher evolutionary virtue.
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Karenina
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Thu Apr-16-09 12:23 PM
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TayTay
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Thu Apr-16-09 11:33 AM
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| 171. No you wouldn't have a thread full of silly optimists |
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and you wouldn't have your demonstration of tone-deafness when it comes to why a story strikes a chord in human beings and what makes people feel.
We are in the midst of a world-wide recession and you can't figure out why a story like this one makes people cry or evinces emotion in people who ordinarily wouldn't admit to such emotions publicly?
Perhaps some things can't be reasoned out of a book or subsumed by mere logic. Maybe sometimes some stories are best heard and understood by those who have a beating human heart and an emotional connection to what makes other people tick.
So sorry that this story, which has brought joy and inspiration to millions, depresses you. Perhaps you can send us a diagnosed program or a peer-reviewed article on why the logic of this story doesn't add up and why people are stupid to actually feel anything from this. Perhaps that kind of comfort, cold though it be, is what you need in a recession. I, for one, would not begrudge it to you or write how stupid you are for doing it.
Our job as humans is to find joy where we can. Sorry that offends you.
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Duer 157099
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:55 AM
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| 51. ...and if her voice hadn't been so great... |
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...then all the ridicule and derision would have gone unnoticed.
Which means... what?
Her singing voice is what makes her a worthy person, apparently. :sigh: That's as shallow as judging her physical appearance, isn't it?
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Mari333
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Wed Apr-15-09 04:29 AM
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| 55. yes, really shallow. the UGLY people are the ones in the audience |
RufusTFirefly
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:21 AM
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| 104. Yes. You are right. I was incredibly moved (and angered) by her performance |
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Why angered?
1. Because, as you suggest, if her voice had been mediocre then all the derision would somehow be acceptable. 2. Because the surprise we express when someone unconventionally beautiful has a beautiful singing voice reminds me of people who used to say -- thinking that they were paying a compliment -- "You're a credit to your race."
You don't have to be a pouty, post-adolescent blonde to sing well and when you aren't and you do, it shouldn't be a major story.
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Pacifist Patriot
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Wed Apr-15-09 01:33 PM
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| 120. Read the editorial linked in the OP all the way to the end. Seriously |
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I think you'll appreciate it.
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Marie26
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Wed Apr-15-09 02:30 PM
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| 122. The last line of the editorial: |
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"Susan has been forgiven her looks and been given respect because of her talent. She should always have received it because of the calibre of her character."
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redqueen
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Thu Apr-16-09 11:57 AM
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| 173. Which means we still have a *very* long way to go. (nt) |
Hekate
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Wed Apr-15-09 03:57 AM
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| 52. That's a beautifully written article & goes well with the stunning performance Susan B gave... |
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Thanks for the post.
Hekate
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:08 AM
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| 101. It's a GREAT article. nt |
crimson333
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Wed Apr-15-09 04:03 AM
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| 53. watched over 10x over the day |
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and cried out of joy all 10 times
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:30 AM
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| 72. I'm still watching it - lost count of the # now! n/t |
Solly Mack
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Wed Apr-15-09 05:09 AM
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JTFrog
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:33 AM
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stlsaxman
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Wed Apr-15-09 06:34 AM
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| 63. This episode of the show should be called "Britains Got Pwned" |
slampoet
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Wed Apr-15-09 07:26 AM
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| 65. People tend to forget that for instance Ella Fitgerald had the WORST HAIR IN ALL OF JAZZ because?... |
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Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 07:27 AM by slampoet
...she had the best voice people tend to forget anything about how she looked..
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Captain Hilts
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Wed Apr-15-09 11:38 AM
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| 111. She also sweated like an NBA player at the foul line. She & Eleanor were the coolest US women |
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of the 20th Century. I don't believe they ever met. They would have had a LOT to talk about.
Go Susan!
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Apr-16-09 01:54 AM
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| 146. Ella Fitzgerald had a voice of silk........ |
Mind_your_head
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Thu Apr-16-09 02:40 AM
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| 148. Barbara Streisand is such a powerful singer |
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Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 02:58 AM by Mind_your_head
I'm very *happy* b/c I've been listening to all of these BEAUTIFUL VOICES (Ella Fitzgerald, Barbra Streisand, Elaine Page, Celine Dion, and many, many others who have their versions of these masterful songs!). I NEVER would have done this, if it hadn't been for Susan Boyle! You, dear lady, have ushered in (at least in my personal case) a Renaissance. Thank you Susan Boyle! And, looking forward to hearing/seeing more of you. edit to add something that I TRULY enjoyed listening to tonight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyx2n_p9OZ8&feature=rela...
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Vinca
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Wed Apr-15-09 07:30 AM
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| 66. What a lesson in judging a book by its cover. The woman is amazing. |
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I hope the people in that audience were properly ashamed of themselves. Of course, it happens everywhere for all sorts of reasons. If you don't look "right" (thin, attractive, well dressed, well coifed), you're an inferior being to some.
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:37 AM
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| 76. You bet. I've gotten that all my life. |
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Mind I'm not bad looking either! But I'm no Barbie either, and as I get older, it gets worse. People are CRUEL. I was teased and ridiculed as a kid due to a skin condition. I know how that feels. That's why this story touched me - this woman has more courage than I'll ever have - and strength. She's amazing.
THEN - there's her voice - which is the only reason I know about her and that's sad too.
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NashVegas
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:40 AM
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That's why this story touches a LOT of people.
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Mad_Dem_X
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:00 AM
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| 67. She's an inspiration to those of us |
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who weren't born beautiful, but have a gift to share or a story to tell. God bless her.
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:31 AM
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| 73. Absolutely. She's MY inspiration, for sure. n/t |
Marie26
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:02 AM
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Thanks so much for posting this article & introducing me to Susan Boyle's incredible talent.
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Th1onein
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:28 AM
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| 70. Not to hijack your post, but I remember when my son was sick and dying with CF.... |
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and I was coming to work in pantyhose with runs all through them and shoes scuffed and dirty. A woman I worked with told me, derisively, that she needed to take me shopping for new shoes because I looked like hell. I remember her son calling me on the phone and begging me to ask his mom to give him five dollars for the school field trip.
Sometimes people are so fucking shallow.
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:35 AM
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| 75. I know. People get their priorities (or yours) effed up. |
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I'm probably guilty of it too. Bet we all are. These stories (and YOURS) are wake-up calls. I'm so sorry for what you went through. That had to be pure Hell - then to have someone giving you crap about your *shoes*? Rediculous. No one needs derision at a time like that.
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OwnedByFerrets
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:31 AM
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| 74. She was/is utterly amazing. I had tears when she finished. |
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:44 AM
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| 77. well its hit 5,424,591 views so far on the tube.. thats 1.5 million since last night. |
latebloomer
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:53 AM
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| 78. Everyone was shocked because she's not a "product" |
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unlike the gorgeous but talentless people who usually become "stars".
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:27 AM
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| 86. product schmoduct, that's what's wrong with the McMusic business today.. |
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...everybody has to be a "product" - a McArtist. A Barbie or Ken in a glitzy plastic box.
No thanks. I prefer the REAL, GENUINE article and Ms. Boyle is certainly that.
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Apr-16-09 03:06 AM
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| 149. People don't want GMO corn (or other products either) |
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but the d*mn f*cking corporations keep pushing that shit for all it's worth (which is NOTHING....and people KNOW THAT and that's why real-honest-to-God-people are REJECTING IT! Over-and-over again!)
Somebody, please buy these soul-less, body-less, heart-less CORPORATIONS a f*ckin' CLUE.
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Wed Apr-15-09 08:54 AM
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| 79. This shows how devistating teasing and bullying really are |
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I'm sure that it has taken Susan this long to get up the courage to try because of what was done to her self-esteem so long ago. I cry every time I hear her wonderful voice, and hope that she lands a lucrative recording contract soon--and that she doesn't change her appearance one whit. She's beautiful as she is.
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:32 AM
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| 90. Another article says the damage from the bullying and teasing never healed ... |
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.... and it doesn't. Verbal abuse and humiliation is devastating, especially to a kid. It never leaves you.
Like you, I hope too, that she gets a lucrative deal and does NOT change her looks. She's a testament to REAL beauty just as she is!
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pmorlan1
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Wed Apr-15-09 09:27 AM
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| 81. Morning Coverage on This Story Was Sickening |
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I was so irritated at the Morning "news" shows. They all acted as if it was perfectly natural for people to think that this woman couldn't sing because she didn't look good. On one of the shows (CNN) they actually said afterward something to the effect that now she will probably get a makeover (they must have gotten complaints because they changed their tune when they repeated the story). It made me sick. What shallow, no nothing people.
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Triana
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:28 AM
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| 87. lame$tream media - the same type who promote no-talent pre-packaged artists... |
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...just what I'd expect from them.
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malaise
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Wed Apr-15-09 04:52 PM
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| 133. And now that M$Greedia has discovered that we've been watching |
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Susan sing since Monday, they're about to cash in. Ratings, ratings, ratings!!
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NashVegas
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Wed Apr-15-09 10:44 AM
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| 95. Well, They're Probably Right |
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Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 10:48 AM by NashVegas
She probably will get a make-over. It's insensitive, but it's the likely scenario. I predict a make-over + a little plastic surgery to get rid of the double chin.
It's not just that those media people are heathens, but the people who do the promoting, the hiring and firing have 18 kinds of studies telling them that they'll be able to make more money promoting a very attractive person than someone who looks like our frumpy next door neighbor.
I wish American culture would change overnight to accept that talent and skill matter more than attractiveness and connections, especially in women, but when people like Brian Frons (ABC) are controlling who we are allowed to see ...
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Apr-15-09 05:11 PM
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| 135. since she got 6 million hits on you-tube before the US MSM discovered her, |
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it kind of destroys the storyline that a certain "look" is needed for popular success.
The "look" is req |