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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:24 PM
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only 29% of Americans believe possession of handguns by private citizens should be banned
Guns and violence ... a mass shooting in New York ... a savage war among drug cartel factions and between the cartels and police in Mexico (utilizing weaponry partially obtained in the U.S) ... a new U.S. administration that's perceived as less supportive of Second Amendment rights....

So many issues and concerns, but will all or any of this lead to stricter gun-control measures for U.S. citizens?

Perhaps, and time will tell. But according to a new Gallup Poll, conducted before last week's massacre at an immigrant center in Binghamton, N.Y., only 29% of Americans believe possession of handguns by private citizens should be banned.

It's the smallest percentage favoring a handgun ban since Gallup first posed the question nearly 50 years ago. The question: "Do you think there should or should not be a law that would ban the possession of handguns, except by police and other authorized persons?"

Perhaps not surprisingly, the poll also found that women are more in favor of stricter gun-control measures than men, and that Democrats are more supportive than Republicans and Independents.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outposts/2009/04/americans-strongly-oppose-handgun-possession-ban-poll-says.html
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:30 PM
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1. In my situation, the best gun for me is a handgun
If the economy ever fucking turns around maybe I'll be able to afford one.



But on the issue of home protection, the best for my situation (young kid in the house) is a handgun in a quick-access safe. Understand I'd much rather have a long gun (like an old M1 carbine) but those are difficult and expensive to store safely in a quick-access manner. Those big safes don't come cheap!
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:32 PM
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2. You can get a big safe free
Just use your hand gun and steal one. Folks will blame the gun and it will go to jail and you will be free :rofl:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:33 PM
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4. ...
:rofl:



"Drop the gun or the safe gets it!" :crazy:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:34 PM
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5. That gave me a blazing saddles flashback:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:37 PM
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8. Exactly!!!! n/t
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:32 PM
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3. im not much for guns,
i dont even like being around them to be honest...
but..

i dont have a problem with people owning hand guns and hunting rifles.

its the 'other' guns that concern me, the ones made for assaulting people... not animals or for protection(unless you honestly think an army is coming for you, but if thats the case youve got bigger problems than owning a gun)
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:45 PM
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11. Semi-autos are the new hunting rifle, just like when muskets were left behind.
They are just semi-auto rifles like browning,remingtion, winchester and all the rest have been making for years.


The brady campaign intentionally started calling semi-autos "assault rifles", they admit they did this to confuse the issue. So, now lots of people think there are a bunch of machine guns out there. There are not.
The only thing special about them is the phrase "assault rifle".
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:36 PM
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6. Ok but banning and regulating are not the same thing
Personally I don't think we should ban guns in general. At least a hand gun ban would not make sense to me.

BUT I also think all guns need better regulations. They are too easy to get. I do not buy the argument that has been presented to me that gun laws are by nature useless.

I mean, we have seen what banks do when they are out of control. Has anyone seriously suggested we ban banking as an institution? We have numerous car accidents that kill. But we don't' ban cars. we try to make them safer through technology or laws so hopefully fewer people die.

So I keep seeing these kinds of stories and thinking to myself, "has no one besides me ever heard of the excluded middle fallacy?"

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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:36 PM
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7. I think Dems need to let this one go.
I'm from a red rural area that has recently voted in Blue Dogs and I swear we could get some progressive people elected if we could do two things:

Honestly support small farmers
Leave the fucking guns issue alone
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:39 PM
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9. And as always, most Americans believe that there should be stricter gun control laws
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:48 PM
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13. That's from April 2007. Come on. Seriously.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:04 PM
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15. And gee, dude, if you looked you would see that's the latest Gallup has
Not to mention the fact that it has been a rock solid fact for years now that most Americans favor stricter gun control laws, or did you fail to see that whole graph over time thingy there.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:16 PM
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18. All of the charts on that page show Americans favor more laws less and less.
Slowly but surely. All of the graphs show it.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:28 PM
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23. The charts show consistently that Americans favor stricter gun control laws, no matter how you spin
Don't like that, tough shit. Find a poll that says otherwise.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:55 PM
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26. The charts show that those who support the Second Amendment are winning
Don't like it? We're your neighbors now. We mean you no harm, but we are the future of the Democratic Party. Recognize.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:04 PM
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28. Wrong, this is the latest Gallop has, Oct. 2008 released TODAY
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117361/Support-Gun-Control-Laws-Time-Lows.aspx

And tell us again how you read this to find most Americans favor stricter gun control laws? Please be specific.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:07 PM
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29. Wrong, and Wrong see post 28 ^^^
Edited on Wed Apr-08-09 10:08 PM by pipoman
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:41 PM
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10. I don't think they should be banned. But there should be better follow up
on folks who obviously have trouble with violence -- and not only with respect to guns but more holistically. We're light years away from that. :(
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:45 PM
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12. I'm surprised it's that high.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:53 PM
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14. Handguns were made for killin and aint no good for nothin else
But as I understand it, there are like three times as many guns as people now, so a total ban would be a waste of time and effort.

That horse has done left the barn.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:11 PM
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16. Handguns are fun
for target shooting. Ever hit a 2 litre bottle of water with a 357 Magnum or a Browning 9mm?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:13 PM
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17. Yeah, and the RW thinks women were made for making babies
But they are good for a few other things :rofl: :hide:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:20 PM
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19. After Mass Shootings And A Supreme Court Ruling, What is Gallup Thinking?
Today's Gallup news release, "Support for Gun-Control Laws at All-Time Lows", is one of the most misleading I've seen in a long time.

Not only is the information old, but the main question asked and highlighted is not reflective of current efforts by activists around the country to reduce gun violence.

This polling information was collected last October, which Gallup does mention in its third paragraph. Yet it certainly begs the question: Why publish a statement based on data that is almost six months old, in the wake of a string of mass shootings committed over the past month?

....

For example, the Brady Campaign commissioned a survey of 1,083 people who voted on Election Day last year to find out their attitudes on a handful of gun law proposals. The results showed:

83% of voters support requiring background checks for all gun sales in this country;
68% support registration of gun sales and licensing of gun owners; and
65% support banning military-style assault weapons;

These wide majorities include McCain voters and gun owners who support these policies, as well. (Not surprisingly, some of these results compare favorably to a CNN poll taken in June of last year.)

....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-helmke/after-mass-shootings-and_b_184832.html
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:22 PM
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20. Polling after events that are hyped on the news and make people emotional
seems like a bad idea (as does making legislation based on the same).
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:24 PM
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21. So they run a poll on the only gun control option the SCOTUS has ruled will never happen?
That's useful... :eyes:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 07:26 PM
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22. Actually it does in some ways
It is a side way of asking if you agree with a recent political/legal decision.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:16 PM
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30. Or if not agree at least accept (some people on DU still want to BAN guns) n/t
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:18 PM
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31. IIRC, they release this same poll every April
The Brady Campaign huh? I can counter that poll with an NRA poll, after all both are equally stellar, honest and reliable.


For example, the Brady Campaign commissioned a survey of 1,083 people who voted on Election Day last year to find out their attitudes on a handful of gun law proposals. The results showed:blah, blah, blah exactly what they wanted it to show by any means necessary
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 08:07 PM
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24. What percentage of people are aware of gun control's dark side?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:44 PM
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25. Few Americans know life without a gun culture.
To experience "the other side" of the gun debate and make an informed judgment one really has to go live in another country for a while (without your guns, more than a 2-week vacation). Relatively few Americans have done that or even care what life is like in other countries.

This poll reflects little more than a lot of ignorant Americans voting for "our way is best, we're number one" as they often do.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 09:56 PM
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27. Good. (nt)
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