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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:22 AM
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Check this out - Just heard Montel on AA talking about fructose in foods containing mercury!
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 09:42 AM by 1776Forever
Montel is on Air America now from 9 to noon:

http://airamerica.com/montelacrossamerica

He is talking about fructose corn syrup foods having mercury in them. He gave out this website to check this out (link below) and said France won't even let ketchup in their country that we have here with fructose because of the mercury contained in it:

http://www.accidentalhedonist.com/index.php/2005/06/09/...

With autism rampant and many others like myself with immune system issues this is very important news!

Here's an article from Washington Post on it:

Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

MONDAY, Jan. 26 (HealthDay News) -- Almost half of tested samples of commercial high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) contained mercury, which was also found in nearly a third of 55 popular brand-name food and beverage products where HFCS is the first- or second-highest labeled ingredient, according to two new U.S. studies.
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:32 AM
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1. Once we will fully understand Epigenetics we will be able to sue

...these bastards... I was quite shocked to find out that there is a strong correlation between living on a new vynil floor or only driving brand new cars and cancer/autism.

The thing is. Are we really the first to learn this?
I suspect the plastics industry knew of the hormonal effects of their products years ago.
The fish were trying to "tell us".
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:33 AM
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2. Montel is a gullible moron who believes in psychics and crap, too. n/t
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:40 AM
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3. I guess you are joking but here is a link if you might want to check this out with facts:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury

MONDAY, Jan. 26 (HealthDay News) -- Almost half of tested samples of commercial high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) contained mercury, which was also found in nearly a third of 55 popular brand-name food and beverage products where HFCS is the first- or second-highest labeled ingredient, according to two new U.S. studies.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:43 AM
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4. No, I'm serious. Montel is scientifically illiterate. But he's a nice guy who means well. n/t
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 09:43 AM by Ian David
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:47 AM
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5. Wow.
That's huge. That stuff is in so many things.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:27 AM
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9. it's because the soil is crap. nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:53 AM
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6. My favorite commercial BBQ sauce just switched to sugar
Yea, yea, I know sugar isn't that good for us either, but check the label on the average BBQ sauce, HFCS is usually the first ingredient!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:01 AM
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7. "Fructose containing mercury" is nonsense.
High fructose corn syrup can be contaminated with mercury.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:23 AM
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8. Thank you for the article and blog.
I have long complained about HFCS, but everyone looked at me like I was nuts. It is in everything!

What particularly caught my attention was the blog on HFCS foods. Several people presented with the same symptoms 3 members of my family had. They also went thru a myriad of tests until the doctors gave in and had them do the breath test. All 3 had suffered from (I don't know the proper term) low good bacteria counts. Now, all they have to do is eat yogurt or acidopholus (sp?) milk for a few days and it clears up.

The fears we went thru until we found out it wasn't cancer or some other serious problem were incredible. The money spent on these expensive tests, not to mention the misery of preparing for some of the tests was ridiculous. Now, when a member comes down with the same symptoms, we encourage the doctors to run that inexpensive breath test, but mainly strive to keep away from HFCS.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:20 PM
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10. Two problems.
The first is timing.

a. Erickson, president of the Corn Refiners Association, in a statement. "Our industry has used mercury-free versions of the two re-agents mentioned in the study, hydrochloric acid and caustic soda, for several years.." Low-ball "several" and say it = 2, just to be cautious. Then they were Hg-free from 2007.

b. "However, the IATP told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that four plants in Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio and West Virginia still use "mercury-cell" technology that can lead to contamination.

"IATP's Ben Lilliston also told HealthDay that the Environmental Health findings were based on information gathered by the FDA in 2005."

What to make of that? I don't know, but a literal reading renders the conclusion quite possibly just a historical fact, not an on-going concern.

Oddly, the reporter adds, "The use of mercury-contaminated caustic soda in the production of HFCS is common. The contamination occurs when mercury cells are used to produce caustic soda." The information is the background needed to understand Wallinga's closing statement. Howver, this is taken from Wallinga et al. 2005; it's not independently obtained information, it's drawn from the report they're citing--except that the report was for 2005, not 2009, and asserted what was sometimes the case in 2005. The reporter adds, in his (her?) own voice that it's still ongoing by using the present tense. Now, it may be that the reporter independently verified this, which is absolutely at odds with the industry spokesperson's statement. If so, that information would have been nice to see.

The second is logic:

"And in the second study, the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP), a non-profit watchdog group, found that nearly one in three of 55 brand-name foods contained mercury. The chemical was found most commonly in HFCS-containing dairy products, dressings and condiments."

"And the group's own study, while not peer-reviewed, was based on products "bought off the shelf in the autumn of 2008," Lilliston added."

So can we conclude that the HCFS in these foods still contained Hg in 2008? No. The chemical was apparently found more often in HFCS-containing foods, but not only in such foods. Was the Hg distribution random? Was it based on something other than HFCS? Perhaps the IATP article contains this information; if so, Wallinga should have said so. Again, that would have been (and perhaps was) good science. As it is, we're tempted to say,

HFCS contained mercury in 2005.
Foods containing HFCS in 2008 contained also mercury.
therefore the mercury came from the HFCS.

It's called abductive reasoning, and it's not necessarily a valid inference.

What we're left with is uncertainty which too many will read as indicating certainty: "The bad news is that nobody knows whether or not their soda or snack food contains HFCS made from ingredients like caustic soda contaminated with mercury."
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