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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:53 PM
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Will A New Terrorist Attack Come To America?
Reposted with permission from http://www.saneramblings.com

"Soon we will launch an attack on Washington," proclaimed Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud, "that will amaze everyone in the world."

In revenge for the U.S. drone missile strikes in Pakistan that have killed or injured large numbers of people, Mr. Mehsud's organization attacked the police academy in Lahore, Pakistan killing 12 people and vowing more attacks on those who support the U.S.

It's not only Mr. Mehsud making such threats but numerous organizations are vowing to retaliate against the U.S for killing or injuring or orphaning vast numbers of people. For those with money, black market weapons are plentiful including nuclear, chemical and biological.

U.S. officials claim terrorists aren't capable of launching another attack in America. But in 1995, Timothy McVeigh blew-up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City killing 168 people, the deadliest attack in U.S. history until 9/11. And he built his bomb from components available in hardware stores.

How did the U.S. get into such a dangerous position? Reeling from 9/11, the U.S. destroyed Iraq, a nation it still occupies, reeked Hell on Afghanistan, spread that Hell to Pakistan and threatened Iran. This is how America reacted to a small group of terrorists who caused 9/11.

America could have instead appealed to Middle Eastern nations to help bring the perpetrators to justice, but didn't. America could have offered to build schools, hospitals, feed the poor and conduct other humanitarian actions which would have created a close relationship with the people, but didn't. And still does not.

To America, it's about military might. Beating people into submission and killing those who oppose it, calling them "terrorists," "militants," "insurgents," "extremists" and other dehumanizing terms. And thanks to the endless U.S. brutality, American enemies are growing in number and in strength.

More weapons won't protect America for the U.S. already had far more arms and soldiers than anyone else long before 9/11. But a peaceful spirit can. Treat humanity not as enemies but as brethren. Or we can leave it to chance as we do now and I will join with you in hoping this prediction of an attack never comes true.

Please raise your voice and speak for those who have none, the victims of our nation. You really can make a difference if only you will apply yourself and speak from your heart as you send a message we can all hear.

Reposted with permission from http://www.saneramblings.com
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:54 PM
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1. only if we continue to occupy their countries and kill their inhabitants
which is what started it all in the first place.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:00 PM
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4. Their main complaints were all religious.
American support for Israel and the presence of non-Muslim U.S. troops in the holy land of Saudi Arabia even though they were invited to be there. The hijackers were not victims of foreign oppression, but were largely middle-class, educated young men.

We need to behave ourselves better in the world, no question there, but I don't think we can underestimate the role of religion in this.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:04 PM
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7. Gee, you're really on a bender today, aren't you?
That's right!! There were never any terrorist training camps in Afghanistan or Pakistan until the US went there in 2001.

Riggghhhtttt......:eyes:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:08 PM
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10. Hey, leave Bender out of this!



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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:20 PM
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15. who cares if there were
we have been installing puppet regimes in middle east countries for decades..see IRAN..and we have been sticking our nose into other countrie's business in the ME for far too long...
what did we expect?
why do they hate us?
a good question to ask..its time the good old USA looked in the fucking mirror.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:31 PM
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22. WOW. Talk About Ignorance
Try reading up on some history. America has been fucking around with the middle east for decades. Who do you think FUNDED the taliban?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 07:56 PM
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32. We've been pissing on the Middle East since the end of WW2.
Seriously, do you know the history of how the US/Britain led a coup to replace the Shah of Iran in the 50's, causing a massive rise in Islamic nationalism?

"Iran was the first place where the United States acted as a colonial power, overthrowing in this case a constitutional government, a popular government, a government that had a huge parliamentary majority," says historian Rashid Khalidi, author of Resurrecting Empire.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3865983

Before rolling your eyes, you REALLY need to brush up on the United States actions in the Middle East over the last 50-60 years. Your response shows an ignorance I'm sure you don't really have overall, so please try to find some history on the area. You'll honestly learn a lot.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:07 PM
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9. So if we left everywhere, these terrorists would bugger off and bake cookies in EZ Bake ovens?
I don't think that would be the case.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:22 PM
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16. if we stopped being terrorists
they might lose recruitment.
until we stop occupying their lands, they will gain a lot of followers.
christ this site sounds more like FR every day now that Obama condones his little war.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 03:09 PM
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27. I agree with you, Mari...
Thank you for supporting the visibility of this column, with your anti-war POV.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:32 PM
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24. Of Course You Don't
Because you've fallen for the right wing talking points.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:09 PM
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11. Prrrrrrretty sure that September 11 happened *before* we occupied Afghanistan and Iraq. nt
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 02:09 PM by Occam Bandage
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:24 PM
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17. yeah and we were the ones who funded the Taliban
remember?
russia..afghanistan..
and we did the flyovers and bombings in Iraq in the 90s
and stuck our noses into Irans business and installed our little shah
until the USA looks in the mirror and sees how it creates its own problems, it will continue to create more problems for itself.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:25 PM
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18. Yes. But that has nothing to do with the occupations. nt
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:27 PM
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20. the occupations are corporate occupations
we ae there to secure oil corporations vested interests..in both countries...and the populace knows it..and they resent it..and i dont blame them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:31 PM
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23. so was Spet 11 done by Afghanis and Iraqis? nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:33 PM
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25. Many people confuse political borders of countries with inhabitants, actions, feelings
that cross those borders. I can see this by some replies to your post.

Looking at the whole middle-east region as a whole is a good place to start.

I agree with you
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 07:44 PM
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31. Even if we did, there will be terrorists attacks.
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 07:45 PM by Forkboy
I'm all for what you say, but it's naive to think that will end/stop terrorists attacks on the US. Even if we do everything right there will still be people who won't be happy. We can't please the entire world, and some of those unhappy ones will surely act sooner or later. :shrug:

What you suggest is still a great idea, don't get me wrong, and would surely lessen the risk. But it'll never make it disappear entirely.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:57 PM
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2. Maybe. No one can guarantee what terrorists will do.
If it does, at least no one will be asleep at the switch.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:58 PM
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3. No....
...because we have a smart mofo for a president and he hired some other smart mofos too.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:00 PM
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5. Only The Shadow (Cheney) knows
Muahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:14 PM
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13. Yep, and if an attack does occur I would like to know what Cheney is up to...
at that time. It would not surprise me in the least to see his finger prints all over it.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 03:41 PM
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28. Snickering and drooling
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:03 PM
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6. No Rush and Beck are winding up the homegrown
morons. They are already killing innocents.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:05 PM
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8. Probably
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:10 PM
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12. Seems to me that the neocons, GOP, and the global corporate capitalists
Have done an absolutely fine job of waging economic terrorism on the middle class and the poor in the US over the past 8 years. The US has been hemorrhaging jobs from service/tech/legal/medical outsourcing, manufacturing/industrial offshoring, and consolidation/buyouts/layoffs at an increasingly rapid pace. The Islamic terrorists can only dream of doing anything near that amount of damage to America, that our elected leadership has permitted to occur with impunity. They might as well sit back, laugh, and watch the US implode, without even needing to do a damn thing.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:15 PM
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14. "If we don't fight them there...." The falling dominoes sceanario...again..and again.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:25 PM
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19. bingo!! my god, Obama gets in office and suddenly everyone becomes hawks
wtf
chickenhawks, of course, but hawks nonetheless.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:28 PM
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21. WHY THEY HATE US
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:37 PM
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26. If it does it will be because the RW Media Hatemongers MIHOP.




Remember Limbaugh WANTS the President to fail. Which BTW makes OxyRush a terrorist as well.

It is high on their agenda to make Obama and the Lefties look as negative as possible.


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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 03:51 PM
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29. Pitchforks and Pistols
By CHARLES M. BLOW
Published: April 3, 2009


But, it’s not all just harmless talk. For some, their disaffection has hardened into something more dark and dangerous. They’re talking about a revolution.

We sometimes forget that not all dangerous men are trained by Al Qaeda.

Maher Calls Out Glenn Beck As Crazy Who Could Incite the McVeighs of America

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocG5u9r3oo4

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/opinion/04blow.html?ref=opinion
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 07:24 PM
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30. "More weapons won't protect America for the U.S. already had far more arms and soldiers..."
..."than anyone else long before 9/11. But a peaceful spirit can. Treat humanity not as enemies but as brethren. Or we can leave it to chance as we do now and I will join with you in hoping this prediction of an attack never comes true."
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 07:58 PM
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33. No doubt. In a free society there's no way to stop it and stay a free society.
And even then, I doubt it can be prevented.
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