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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:05 PM
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If we capture Bin Laden under Obama's watch, can we get single-payer health care?
Do you think that might give him enough political capital to get the health care measure passed? Or would they say that Bush was about to catch him and Obama just lucked out and got to take the credit. I know it seems ridiculous to speculate that single-payer health care could be had for the capture of Osama, but things really are ridiculous.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:08 PM
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1. They'll have to capture that Bin Laden look a like thats posting videos.
I think the real thing is dead.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:09 PM
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2. Why do you believe Bin Laden is dead? nt
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:11 PM
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3. I just have a hard time believing he's alive.
They can get Saddam hiding in a hole in the desert but they cant find a 6ft tall arab guy hooked up to a dialisis machine after 8 years. I could be wrong but I dont believe that guy posting videos is the real Bin Laden.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:13 PM
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5. Bhutto said he was in an interview with David Frost. It's on youtube.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:14 PM
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6. Fox News: "Bin Laden Already Dead"
Fox News: "Bin Laden Already Dead"

Wednesday, December 26, 2001

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

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The Death of bin Ladenism
By AMIR TAHERI
Published: July 11, 2002

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?

Even if he is still in the world, bin Ladenism has left for good. Mr. bin Laden was the public face of a brand of politics that committed suicide in New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, killing thousands of innocent people in the process.

What were the key elements of that politics?

The first was a cynical misinterpretation of Islam that began decades ago with such anti-Western ideologues as Maulana Maudoodi of Pakistan and Sayyid Qutb of Egypt. Although Mr. Maudoodi and Mr. Qutb were not serious thinkers, they could at least offer a coherent ideology based on a narrow reading of Islamic texts. Their ideas about Western barbarism and Muslim revival, distilled down to bin Ladenism, became mere slogans designed to incite zealots to murder.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9405EFDE1230F932A25754C0A9649C8B63

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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:12 PM
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4. How do you capture a corpse? n/t
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 04:26 PM
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7. Osama bin Laden is dead
Edited on Fri Mar-27-09 04:30 PM by Politicalboi
So I don't know if we will ever catch a ghost. Afghanistan the second making of Caddy Shack in looking or one gopher and in the mean time destroying the whole golf course in the process.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:24 PM
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8. How much per person will single payer cost - will adding 15-20% tax on income cover it
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 05:28 PM
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9. There will also be increased income because deducting medical expenses won't be necessary.
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