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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:32 PM
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In the spirit of FDR, it is time to start helping the poor.
Start by raising taxes. There is no viable argument against raising taxes. Bring our boys and girls home and bring our jobs home. There are no more excuse left to send our money overseas to build any more death machines. I was in the Navy in 1968 and I wanted to kill every communist and viet cong there was. I volunteered to run river patrol boats, but I never left Virginia Beach. If I had got to murder like they wanted me to and then as I grew up and realized I was murdering Innocent people for nothing I would have gone nuts for what I did and got revenge on the real murderers.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:36 PM
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1. Amen ... OUR PARTY needs to stand with the poor ...
We've been "conservative-lite" for too long (ever since
Bill Clinton, imho) and need to return to our roots. We
are in dire financial straits right now, and the poor
(and those in danger of slipping into their ranks) NEED
SOMEBODY to stand up for them. I despair as I watch
my own party choose "fiscal responsibility" over compassion
and doing the right thing to get our country on the road
to SHARED PROSPERITY and TRUE economic recovery.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:42 PM
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2. "Financial responsibility" shouldn't be an object of disdain.
I'm 100% behind a real safety net for those who need it and improved economic opportunity for those who seek it...

...but we have to be "financially responsible" to allow that to happen.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:47 PM
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3. I was specifically talking about concern about the deficit ...
Financial responsibility as a concept is great (and something
to applaud), but in times like these, we need to spend more,
in order to allow the entire public to participate in our
economic recovery. We need to bring EVERYONE in through
increasing employment and wages, and in our current situation,
the government is the spender/employer of last resort. The
way to get us out of this economic ditch is to get more
people participating, not just to rely on the upper class
to spend/invest us out of it ...
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:49 PM
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4. I believe raising taxes would be the way to provide a safety net
for those who need it and improve opportunity for those who seek it. I am sure Obama would take any revenue and make jobs programs and do what he could to help and train the poor and bring jobs to the USA. Kind of late to talk about financial responsibility. Especially when it comes to the poor and soon to be poor. So far they haven't gotten any of the tossed around money.
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Coffee and Cake Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:52 PM
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5. You don't need to raise taxes to help the poor
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:13 PM
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12. How else can you do it? I am thinking of public works projects
and other made government work.
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Coffee and Cake Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:20 PM
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13. Cut government spending or partake in charity
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 04:21 PM by Coffee and Cake
The government, like many Americans, should live within its means. It already takes enough taxes from Americans to fight in the nonsensical wars, exploiting the military industrial complex, polices the world, give corporations welfare and bank executives million dollar bonuses, building bridges to nowhere, having our Congressman give themselves raises every chance they get, fighting a useless war on drugs.

Perhaps I am just a dreamer, but I think the government has the capability of cutting back taxes, living within its means, and still providing needed public works projects and temporary safety nets.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:53 PM
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6. I must say, I'm finding your OPs a bit disjointed and vague
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:54 PM
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7. Just a little
The Vietnam thing didnt quite make sense in this OP
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:03 PM
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10. The Viet reference was to let you know how the leaders can distort the truth to get
their objectives done. They lied about the communist, and as far back as when the French started the Viet Nam conflict, it was all lies. And hundreds of thousand of people died as a result of it.
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:59 PM
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8. I'm sorry. I have a lot of things that I want to get said and changed.
My fingers don't work as fast as my mind does and my mind still has to acclimate itself to the new contemporary thinking. I am for health care, jobs, all minority rights and against all killing. I am against any oppression and for any co-operation to help for a common good. I believe in socialist influences to help the many. I hope this can give you an idea of my orientation and short comings in communicating.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:01 PM
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9. Well, maybe think out your OPs a bit more
and constrain yourself to tackling one or two issues at a time.
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 04:04 PM
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11. Like I commented earlier, I will learn the way.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 05:25 PM
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14. Thanks for posting. nt
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