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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:36 AM
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Christian Newswire Glories in the Deaths of Abortion Provider's Family in MT Crash
And PZ Myers responds:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/03/a_heartless_faith.php

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Choke back your gag reflex and read this hideous, evil article on Christian Newswire. Some moral cretin named Gingi Edmonds wrote a wretched story on this tragedy that makes it sound like divine retribution on Mr Feldkamp.

It begins by telling us that the plane crashed in a cemetery — a Catholic cemetery that has a "memorial to the unborn", dedicated to aborted fetuses. We are apparently supposed to feel some sense of irony at this.

All I can feel is horror at the kinds of monsters who would find grim satisfaction in the death of 6 to 10 year old children, as if it were payback for abortion. At amoral pious hypocrites who would regard this as an opportunity to assault human beings broken-hearted by pain and loss, to proselytize for the bloody-handed god of their death cult, to compound agony with accusations of guilt. There is no humanity left in these sanctimonious creatures, it's been bled out and replaced with fanaticism and dogma.

This is loathsome.

In my time working for Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust, I helped organize and conduct a weekly campaign where youth activists stood outside of Feldkamp's mini-mansion in Redlands holding fetal development signs and raising community awareness regarding Feldkamp's dealings in child murder for profit. Every Thursday afternoon we called upon Bud and his wife Pam to repent, seek God's blessing and separate themselves from the practice of child killing.

We warned him, for his children's sake, to wash his hands of the innocent blood he assisted in spilling because, as Scripture warns, if "you did not hate bloodshed, bloodshed will pursue you". (Ezekiel 35:6)

A news source states that Bud Feldkamp visited the site of the crash with his wife and their two surviving children on Monday. As they stood near the twisted and charred debris talking with investigators, light snow fell on the tarps that covered the remains of their children.

I don't want to turn this tragic event into some creepy spiritual 'I told you so' moment, but I think of the time spent outside of Feldkamp's - Pam Feldkamp laughing at the fetal development signs, Bud Feldkamp trying not to make eye contact as he got into his car with a small child in tow - and I think of the haunting words, 'Think of your children.' I wonder if those words were haunting Feldkamp as well as he stood in the snow among the remains of loved ones, just feet from the 'Tomb of the Unborn'?

I only hope and pray that in the face of this tragedy, Feldkamp recognizes his need for repentance and reformation. I pray that God will use this unfortunate catastrophe to soften the hearts of Bud and Pam and that they will draw close to the Lord and wash their hands of the blood of thousands of innocent children, each as precious and irreplaceable as their own.


Has Gingi Edmonds considered the possibility that that "small child in tow" that she ignored to shout slogans and wave signs at Feldkamp might now be one of the shattered dead lying in that field? Is she aware that the Feldkamp family is probably haunted more by the good memories, the loss of ones they loved, than the hate shouted at them by religious fanatics? I doubt it. It's a piece that reveals so much about the author: her own unconcern for human life, and her smug obliviousness of the fact that she is taking advantage of a tragedy to say her petty "I told you so".

Once again, I am confirmed in my opinion that Christianity is a breeder of evil, a cesspit in which the most hateful and inhuman commitment to lies and delusions can ferment. Don't ever preach at me about Christian morality: I've seen it, and it is empty of love for humanity, replaced with sanctimonious idolatry and commitment to dead, dumb superstition.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:40 AM
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1. These people only regard life until it is born
Then they are on their own.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:45 AM
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2. I don't blame Christianity per se. I blame christian fundamentalists and
biblical literalists and christofascists for this sort of hateful nonsense.

I like how Gandhi put it: I like your Jesus very much. Your Christians, not so much.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:47 AM
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3. I tried to read it.
But I quit when I got to the part that said the crash was divine retribution.

This is exactly what totally, absolutely discredits the entire pro-life movement, and by extension, organized religion. Funny, I missed the part in the Gospels where Christ said it was okay to dance on somebody's grave. If you rejoice in someone else's pain and suffering, I'm convinced beyond any doubt that it will come back around to haunt you one fine day.

Thanks for posting this though -- always good to be on top of the latest bit of insanity that champions itself as a "defender of life." :puke:

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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:01 AM
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7. Very well said!
I firmly believe that if you take enjoyment out of someone else's suffering, it's going to come back to haunt you. That is NOT what Jesus would want us to do.

The element that these people lack is the ability to have compassion. Insanity is right!

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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:53 AM
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4. Gingi and her ilk are nothing more than amoral pseudo-xian fetus felchers.
Once the cord is cut, their so-called "precious unborn children" are on their own.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:56 AM
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5. Congratulations, your brush is just as broad and dumb as theirs, as is your own smugness
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 10:57 AM by Maru Kitteh
I dare say there are probably many Christian physicians who provide abortion services and do not find conflict with their faith. I personally know one, and I live in BFE, and it's a big world.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 10:58 AM
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6. 1. Cue the "BUT THEY'RE NOT REAL CHRISTIANS!!!!1cos(0)1!!!" whitewashing brigade in 3... 2... 1...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:10 AM
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9. I don't consider them to be "real christians", but I certainly won't whitewash
what was said there. :mad:
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:47 PM
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19. 2. Cue the "But you are Broad Brushing ALL Christians" whitewashing brigade in 3 ....2 ....1 .....
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:45 PM
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20. It is NOT a "whitewashing brigade," it's a fact.
Not all people who think they are Christians, or call themselves Christians, live by the true tenets of Christianity. Christianity should not be judged by these creeps who have the nerve to call themselves Christians.

Sadly, they are more vocal than many Christians who actually live their faith. Thus do they give it a bad name.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 04:49 AM
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22. One problem is that there is no universal measure of Christianity.
You are a Christian simply because you call yourself a Christan. Nothing more. The vast array of different beliefs, denominations, and religious practice within this group make it impossible to objecively determine who really is, and who really is not.

Christian beliefs range from "Christian Identity" (google that) to the Amish, and in every direction in between.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:03 AM
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8. Check out this story, it has to do with the crash, i read it in the local paper this morning.
Sorrow sears teachers, classmates of Montana crash victims

PUBLISHED WEDNESDAY, MAR. 25, 2009

Principal Dann Dodd isn't sure what to do with the gloves in Christopher Pullen's cubby or the name tag on Sydney Pullen's desk.

He wonders if their belongings should be put away before the students at Lodi Seventh-day Adventist Elementary School return from spring break on Monday.

Christopher, 7, and Sydney, 9, died Sunday with their parents, cousins, an aunt and uncle and friends when the small commuter plane they were traveling in crashed in Butte, Mont.

Will the items left behind by the children be a memorial to them or a terrible reminder for their classmates?

Dodd doesn't know.

"I've not been through this before," said Dodd, who has been a school administrator for 32 years.

The deaths of the children have affected the 64-year-old grandfather, too.

"I went into the room and saw his desk, and that's when I welled up," Dodd said.

He's counting on the school's 12 teachers, a grief counselor from Napa and six pastors from SDA churches to help him help the students.

Their approach isn't too complicated. "It's just listening and praying," Dodd said.

On Tuesday, the National Transportation Safety Board focused its investigation of the deadly crash on why the pilot changed course suddenly, asking to land in Butte instead of the original destination of Bozeman, Mont., about 75 miles away.

Fourteen people – the Pullens from Galt and two other families from St. Helena and Durham – perished when the plane nose-dived into a Butte cemetery. Seven of the victims were children.

In large school districts such as San Juan Unified, students' grief is often handled tactically. The district has a crisis response team, headed by counselor Barry Turner.

"We mobilize other counselors that are close by and set up a crisis center in the library," said Tracie Locke, a counselor at Del Campo High School and a member of the team.


http://www.sacbee.com/ourregion/v-print/story/1726635.html
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:11 AM
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10. Here's something they don't know about that crash:
We found out yetserday that my sister's boyfriend's daughter was good friends with Kristen Ching, who was also on the plane and died along with her husband and 2 children. My sister's boyfriend's daughter, also named Kristen, worked out regularly with Kristen Ching and what was not reported in the news reports is the fact that Kristen Ching was pregnant. I wonder what the "pro-life" people would have to say about that fact.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:12 AM
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11. One of the ugliest pieces of writing I have ever seen....
and in the name of Christianity, too. I know for certain that such sentiments do not reflect the views of the vast majority of Christians. But they sure as heck reflect the views of a nasty bunch of them.

May this writer suffer in some way for her nastiness. That's my wish.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:17 AM
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12. People like that are dead inside. Being dead inside must hurt. At least, I hope it does.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 11:25 AM
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13. how about we give gingie some feedback?
lets compose some 'nice' emails for her....

http://www.gingiedmonds.com/
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 01:19 PM
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14. Scathing email sent.
It will be ignored, of course.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:41 PM
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15. Gingi Writes Back
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 03:46 PM by MineralMan
I severely scolded Gingi in my email to her:

Subject: Your current blog entry...
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:31 AM
Well, I ran across your current
blog entry on Christian Newswire. How proud you must be to
take such pleasure at the deaths of children. I'm sure
Jesus would applaud your feeling that their deaths are
somehow punishment for their grandfather. After all, He
loved to torment parents by killing their children,
right?

Were you aware that one of the adults in the plane
crash was pregnant? How do you feel about her death and the
death of the baby she was carrying?

You are a piece of work, Gingi. No doubt you're
building up points with Jesus, too. I'll bet you'll
receive your just rewards, eventually. I'll make a point
of following your writings to see what other unchristian
things you're bound to post. Perhaps I'll help to
publicize your transgressions.

Feh!



She responds thus:

LOL, take pleasure? For a blogger I'd think you'd know how to.. I don't know.. read? Never once did I display pleasure at these deaths. In fact I mourn Feldkamps children just as much as I mourn the children he profits from killing. And his family has been in my prayers long before you ever read a headline and learned he existed. So, get over yourself, yeah?

And thanks for taking the time to write! ^_^

Gingi Edmonds

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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 08:53 PM
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21. What a fucking skank.
A pox on Gingi. What the fuck kind of name is Gingi, anyway? Sounds like it's short for gingivitis. That would be about right...she's definitely a walking, talking case of pus and imflammation.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:43 PM
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16. that's very Christian of them
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:45 PM
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17. Contemporary Christianity = Bigotry and Superstition with a Halo above it.
At least, that is what it represents to me.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 03:46 PM
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18. I saw a thread on fr about this and it is gross.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 05:46 AM
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23. My Mama taught Sunday School,
and put a lot of time into her lessons. She had a brazillion books around the house to use as sources. However, she wasn't one to get in anybody's face. She told me one time that hypocrisy was a big no no in the Bible. I don't know what verse she would use to back that up, but I believed her.

Whenever I would read such an article or see something like the Phelps clan on teevee, I would ask her if I had missed something when I had gone to church. I told her I must have missed the chapter on hate. She would cut her eyes and give the frightful "Mama Eye" to the offending item. She would tell me that nothing they were doing was part of anything she had ever believed. I would shudder at the "Mama Eye," and think how lucky they were that they weren't near her.

I used to see a lovely bumper sticker that said, "Shoot them all, and let God sort them out." I would always think that "Love them all, and let God sort them out" would be a better mantra.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 06:04 AM
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24. I sent her an email too:
Ms. Edmonds,

I read your article about the plane crash and God's retribution. You seem to have a high opinion of yourself in that you are able to discern his meaning for the plane crash. No matter what I have believed or read, I have never been so presumptuous to assume that I am suddenly His interpreter.

I realize what the Bible says, and with all due respect to you, God may have another plan at some point. The Bible is God's word, and he might just want to say something new at some point. I would assume you believe he is still actively involved in the affairs of man and isn't just resting somewhere.

My opinion on the matter of dealing with people is to "Love them all, and let God sort them out."

You may not have been joyful at the plane's crash, but you are certainly very cruel. I'm sure you justify this with scripture. My only warning is "Watch out for motes."

Yours "to do unto others,"
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