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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:44 AM
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Poll question: Do You Know Where Your Husband Is? Florida sheriffs will soon tell you by letter
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 12:45 AM by Liberal_in_LA
Do You Know Where Your Husband Is?

http://www.wkrg.com/crime/article/do_you_know_where_your_husband_is/24667/

By Pat Peterson Reporter

Published: Fri, March 20, 2009 - 5:28 pm
Last Updated: Fri, March 20, 2009 - 9:57 pm

In an effort to stop prostitution and clean up some of Escambia County's less desirable neighborhoods, sheriff's deputies in Escambia County, Florida, will soon be informing women about their spouse's unethical and illegal behavior.

Sheriff David Morgan will send out letters to wives of men who have been charged with soliciting prostitution. The unusual law enforcement tactic is meant to embarrass, humiliate and discourage the "John" from buying sex off the nearest street corner. Women we spoke to like the idea.

"It'll embarrass them but they deserve it fully," says Cheryl Reeves. "You go out messing with other women, you'll come home with all kinds of diseases. I'm all for it."

The idea of sending out letters to wives also has the approval of the local health department.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:47 AM
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1. don't the wives usually figure it out when the car gets impounded and she has to bail him out?
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 12:48 AM by dysfunctional press
:shrug:

they play a different style of hardball in chicago.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:51 AM
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4. I imagine he'd call a buddy
wouldn't you think?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:53 AM
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6. then he just has to hope that the buddy has $500 for the impound...
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 12:55 AM by dysfunctional press
and that his wife's name isn't on the title.

and that none of the wife's friends have internet access.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:52 AM
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5. ROFL! She filed for divorce today. n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:03 AM
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7. A compounded car could mean DUI as well, though.
I imagine a lot of prostitute-soliciting husbands claim DUI, anyway, when their wives pick them up from jail. Just a guess.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:19 AM
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8. plus- it would give them a great excuse for drinking money...
dui lawyers are pricey, from what i've heard.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:48 AM
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2. Sounds like a waste of tax paid recourses to me.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:50 AM
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3. Don't tell kids about condoms in school though
There is soooo much wrong with this that I don't even know where to begin.

Just. AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHH.

Can't people ever focus on what's important.

And this from someone who isn't particularly crazy about the idea of prostitution, and not the kind of woman you would ever want to cheat on - but this isn't any different than an affair and the police shouldn't be sending letters to SPOUSES about that.

And since when does a spouse have any legal right for the police to go out of their way to inform a spouse of any law that's been broken.

And can you imagine the screw-ups?

This is the worst idea I've heard since covenant marriage.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:20 AM
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9. A lot of wives are gonna be surprised to find their husbands screwing men! nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:25 AM
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10. But, she was so convincing! LOL...
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:51 AM
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11. so long as it is a good cause
So long as it is for a good cause, I favor giving the police unlimited power to monitor and harass people. Of we can watch everyone all of the time, many benefits will accrue.

People are out there doing who knows what all of the time. I can't really manage my own life, and eliminate all of the dangers on my own, so it is time to call in a massive law enforcement presence and really get after people so that I can start feeling better. Just knowing that the police are out there chasing people down makes me feel good. About time, I say!

Hey, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

Those people doing things I don't like have had fair warning to straighten out their act. They have no one to blame but themselves. I just don't like people, and I don't trust them. I want the police to go after them - all of them, whatever it is they are doing. Anyone objecting to this is just defending some really bad things. They should be arrested too, maybe.

Tge Bill of Rights is just old-fashioned and doesn't apply anymore. I mean come on - it was written like a couple hundred years ago or something. They didn't even have the internet them. What did they know? Change with the times, I say, and with all of these problems we have today - all caused by people, if you think about it - is is high time to throw away all of those outdated notions about "rights" and "privacy" and get some of these problems solved once and for all whatever it takes. Maybe if we put a little fear into people, and really unleash the police on them, they will stop being the way they are.


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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:21 AM
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14. OMG!
:spray: :rofl:


Well played!


How many will think you're serious because you didn't add the sarcasm tag?


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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:56 AM
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17. sad to say
Sad to say I cobbled that together from actual quotes from various posters right here. Every one of those things has been said at one time or another by "progressives."

Odd that when it comes to economics, we have all sorts of people here promoting libertarian ideas, but when it comes to civil liberties we have the same crowd promoting authoritarian ideas.

Democrats. I am talking about Democrats. Or they say they are, anyway.


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 06:28 AM
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21. i totally agree with you...thanks for posting
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 06:47 AM
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22. I agree with you completely..
It's far past time that we become a moral, law abiding nation again and we should start with sexual improprieties first since that is the most important issue facing our society today.

:eyes:
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:09 AM
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12. Does it go the other way around?
Us guys aren't the only ones who enjoy sex, I hear. I admit the things I've heard about "female orgasm" seem more myth than reality, but if the rumor is true, I imagine a fair number of ladies visit the meat market too...
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:17 AM
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13. Exellent idea! Serves you right for getting married.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:23 AM
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15. Charged but not found guilty.
Maybe Sheriff David Morgan wouldn't like being charged with being a pedophile and monkey rapist, but fuck all if we don't tell his wife he might have done it, yeah?
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:43 AM
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16. Yeah, I think that's about my only problem with it.
Other than that, I think it's a good idea - except I think that's a pretty big problem, though.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 04:15 AM
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18. Interesting point I had not considered. Thank you
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 05:38 AM
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19. Bad idea
I'm a proponent of keeping the government out of people's sex lives.....period! The sanctity of marriage is a moral issue, not a legal one. The moral is based on religion. Freedom of religion? A man or woman should have the right to have sex with anyone they choose without fear of retribution by our government. No exceptions. Do you think a woman should be allowed to have an abortion without the knowledge of her husband? I do, it's up to her, not the government.

Letting government override nature is wrong! Do you think the founding fathers agreed with this sheriff? Why didn't they put a law in the constitution making infidelity a crime? Because most of them had mistresses or concubines.

No government in our bedrooms. That's what republicans want, not democrats. Government should stay out of this issue for the same reasons they should stay out of the abortion issue. It's none of their business....period!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:51 PM
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34. Exactly! Republicans are all for less government,
unless you're talking about people's sex lives and bedroom activities. Then, they have no problem whatsoever with bringing the full hammer of the state and the law down on people when it's none of the government's goddamn business what you do sexually with whom as long as it's fully consensual. Period.

Actually, they're that way with a lot of other social issues as well.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 06:03 AM
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20. I think it's great, and about time. Should be in the newspapers, too,
with pics.
You are subjecting the wife you obviously don't care about anyway to all sorts of diseases, not to mention shitting on what ever relationship you might have with your family.

Should put the johns in jail for a week or so, too, fuck bail....

mark
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 06:55 AM
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23. Men really buy into the idea that prostitutes are there by choice and like it. nt
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Threedifferentones Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:40 PM
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27. Yeah
Wouldn't it be great if we just legalized it, so that could really be true?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:50 PM
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29. Well, everyone in the military is there by choice, too. Right?
:eyes:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:24 PM
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31. good point.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 11:48 AM
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24. Other...
I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but it won't stop prostitution. When I lived in Aurora, Colorado, they passed some sort of city statute about confiscating cars of men picking up prostitutes and putting their pictures in the paper. In the two years that I lived there, I couldn't tell that it did a thing. There were lots of pictures in the local paper (which I'm sure helped sales), but there were still hookers on both sides of Colfax.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:22 PM
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25. If they only did it to men who got *convicted*, I'd have a lot more sympathy with it.
But doing it to anyone who gets charged, even if they're later found innocent, is a bad idea.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:30 PM
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26. pardon my abysmal ignorance on the subject
but doesn't the Constitution of the United States have a few passages to the effect that the government may not punish a person for any crime without first providing sufficient evidence in a court of law to convict said person of committing criminal acts?

I'd think sending a letter to a person's spouse regarding alleged criminal sexual conduct would fall into the category of punishment without trial. It certainly appears to be intended that way.

Or did I miss something?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 07:24 PM
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37. I agree with the punishment without trial take on this. Guilty and you get 'outted'. nt
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:48 PM
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28. It also has the approval of the local Divorce Lawyers' Guild
A man who's out trying to hire hookers is NOT in a high-quality marriage. This would be enough to put a lot of these marriages into divorce court, I think.

I also think "punish first, sentence afterward," in addition to looking very much like something out of Alice in Wonderland, is unconstitutional.
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Yavapai Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:20 PM
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30. I hope this Sheriff get his ass sued off.
Innocent until proven guilty???

He is setting himself up as judge and jury. I hope someone sues him and the county he works for, to the point of they have to lay off the entire Sheriff's department. I hope he is personally sued for denial of the victims (the alleged johns) rights. McCarthy-ism is alive and well in the USA!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:26 PM
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32. How would they know who their spouses are?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:55 PM
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35. I guessing the Sheriff's department has access to ALL public records.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:39 PM
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33. Go for the alleged Johns, but don't investigate a Congressional intern's death.
Maybe the letters should wait until the Johns plea guilty or are convicted. Maybe the Escambia County Sheriff should look into two cold cases that were never really investigated before: 1. Joe Scarborough's dead intern, and; 2. the in-flight bombing of a Southern Company (Florida Power) King Air 200 a couple of decades back.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:56 PM
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36. 'Good Idea Women' are pulling away in this poll... A real gender divide.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 07:28 PM
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39. I guess a little "revenge" trumps civil rights. nt
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 07:27 PM
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38. I'm a woman, and I think it's a bad idea. n/t
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