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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:00 PM
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Rotten at the Core
--Remarks on March 19, 2009, in a park in which people are living in Richmond, Va., in front of offices of the Federal Reserve--

From outside the United States it's easy to imagine that everyone inside the United States is doing well. If you live in a country occupied by U.S. soldiers, as over 150 countries are around the world, if you live with extreme poverty and disease, if the United States provides your country's government with shiny expensive weapons, if the Americans you come into contact with treat you with contempt, and if the images you have of the United States come from Hollywood, it would be understandable to think that everyone in the homeland of the empire is doing well.

But it would make no sense. A nation that invests in empire is a nation with no respect for human life. A nation that invests in empire is a nation ruled by a small group of power mad officials and oligarchs. A nation controlled by the majority of its people would not invest in empire. The Roman Empire spread far and wide, but the eternal city itself was full of slaves. And since nothing is truly eternal, the madness of empire progressed until it destroyed itself.

So, in reality, while we possess more weapons and bases and soldiers than the rest of the world combined, we trail many other nations in basic measures of health and well-being. We have more people struggling to find jobs, working long hours, and suffering unnecessary illnesses, all of which makes it harder for people to be active and engaged citizens. But it's at least as important to state this in the other direction too. It is because we are not active and engaged citizens and have permitted the development of a system of government of, by, and for the corporations that we end up jobless, homeless, and without healthcare.

But it is NOT too late to turn this thing around and revolutionize our values.

Say yes if you want to shift our funding from war to healthcare, from banker bailouts to affordable housing, from corporate tax cuts to mass transit, from nuclear weapons to green energy.

Now, somebody might say: Wait a minute. Why do we have to shift funding from one place to another? When the bankers want a few trillion dollars here or there, the people in charge just borrow it from China, or the Federal Reserve just invents it out of thin air. Why can't we do that for useful things like schools and family farms? Why do you have to work on Wall Street to get free money? And what if we do cut the military spending and end all the wars, how do we know any of that money will be redirected to something more useful than tax cuts for corporations and billionaires?

The first answer is this: If we organize a movement powerful enough to stop the spending of our hard earned money on killing people we will be in charge of what our money does get spent on. And if we do not organize that movement, our money will continue to go to both bankers and wars, and the Federal Reserve, which is no more federal than Federal Express, is not going to invent any money for you or me.

The second answer is this: If we create awareness that a war economy is no economy at all, that investment only in killing does not stimulate the rest of the economy as needed, then shifting to a peace economy in which the same dollars create more and better paying jobs will take away the power that weapons lobbyists have over our so-called representatives. If government investment in human needs becomes a normal means of job creation, then job creation will no longer be a decisive political argument for investment in death and destruction.

The third answer is this: The benefits of beginning to relate to the world through non-military aid, diplomacy, cooperation, and friendship, rather than bombs and bases will have transforming benefits for us as well as them, as will elimination of our corporate trade agreements. While empires come and go, the people in the home nation often do better when they go than when they came.

The fourth answer is this: No matter how bad things become in the United States, we have a responsibility to recognize the horrors our government is imposing on others around the world and to end them.

We're now at 6 years of bloody and horrific occupation in Iraq, and 7.5 years in Afghanistan. Little children in Iraq and Afghanistan have grown up with these wars and been scarred by them in ways it's hard to think about very long. While we don't provide housing to our own people, we also don't provide it to the people of Iraq, 5 million of whom have been displaced from their homes, over a million killed, many millions injured, everyone's family impacted in a way that's not familiar to most parts of America outside of New Orleans.

And while the Iraqi people want us out, we stay in the name of democracy. That should be a clear signal to the world of the state of our democracy at home. We've killed, displaced, isolated, bribed, terrified, so many Iraqis, and made so many promises to leave, that violence has decreased. And that is supposed to be a reason to stay, just as violence increasing was always supposed to be a reason to stay.

Have we learned anything in the past 6 years? Many Americans have learned that the war in Iraq was based on lies and have learned to be suspicious of similar lies about Iran. But some have not yet learned to oppose all aggressive wars, because the occupation of Afghanistan is not yet as unpopular as the one in Iraq.

What HAS been learned has in large part been taught by the peace movement. We knew 6 years ago and a year before that, that this war would be fraudulent, illegal, and disastrous. Many of you knew it and opposed it.

Yesterday there were hearings in Congress on suicides in the US military. The people we recruit to commit our crimes now end up killing themselves at an alarming rate. We will lose more Americans to slow deaths from injuries and to suicides than to deaths in combat. If that finally wakes some people up, it won't be a moment too soon. But it has to be asked: Where are the hearings for Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Palestinians? A victim of US torture testified last year via satellite to a nearly empty committee room, after which Congressman Rohrabacher explained to him that in a war mistakes must be tolerated. And our senators now talk about truth and reconciliation, oblivious to the fact that involving the people with whom we need reconciliation is literally unthinkable. The idea, instead, is for us to get reconciled with ourselves. Tell me this: will you ever be reconciled with your nation committing war crimes? Will you?

A solid majority of Americans has opposed the occupation of Iraq for years. And about half and rising now oppose the occupation of Afghanistan as well.

The primary reason that we do not have a democracy is not the corruption of Congress, although that comes in a close second. The primary reason is that Congress has no power, having given it all to the president. A democratic society cannot coexist with the presidential powers seized by Bush and now being maintained and expanded by Obama. A democratic society does not have secret government agencies, secret laws, laws rewritten by the executive, one man with the power of war, one man with the power of the purse, one man with the power of treaty. Yet President Obama, who to his credit has said he will end torture and close one of the many places where we detain people outside the law, last week wrote a signing statement telling Congress not to interfere in his Constitutional power to make treaties, despite the fact that the Constitution says two-thirds of the senate must approve any treaty.

We are being sold changiness when we asked for transformational change. We're done with extraordinary rendition, but rendition will now be ordinary. We have no more enemy combatants, but we are detaining hundreds of combative nemeses. We're going to use non-combat troops to do our combat. We'll get healthcare reform in which a public option means private insurance mandated by the government. Blackwater won't have to leave Iraq because it's changed its name. Is this what you voted for?

Yesterday I got an Email from Amnesty International asking me to object to Obama reviving Bush's policies. Well, they never died and they are not policies. They are what we used to call crimes. Also yesterday, the ACLU finally, finally, finally -- FINALLY! -- came to its senses and asked the attorney general to appoint a special prosecutor and enforce the law.

And yet too many in the peace movement don’t want to talk about the law, even the laws against aggressive war. Many don't even want to talk about wars, preferring to talk about military spending. And we must talk about military spending. We must. But doing that alone will not end wars. And the wars are just as bloody no matter who is sleeping in the White House.

We may even end up halting some weapons programs, especially weapons that don't work or are designed to fight the Soviet Union or the Japanese fleet. But this Congress and president want to increase the overall budget for killing. This will be a victory against corruption on behalf of the greatest moral corruption known to our species. We'll end up recruiting more troops and buying better weapons that kill more people. This will miss President Eisenhower's point when he said that

"EVERY gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

For what we're giving to bankers we could give tens of thousands of dollars to every American, but for what we're spending -- including indirect economic costs -- on the occupation of Iraq, we could give $100,000 to every Iraqi.

Let's get our priorities straight -- including ending wars not just because they are badly fought or corruptly managed, or even because they cost money, but because they kill human beings.

End the occupations.

End the missile strikes.

Close the bases.

Bring our brothers and sisters home.

Prosecute the war criminals.

And create a truth and reconciliation commission that reconciles the United States with the other 95 percent of humanity.

Power to the people.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:48 PM
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1. .
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:00 PM
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2. In response to one of those rare threads in which everything necessary is said in the OP
I can only add my agreement, and a recommendation. Well said.
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:09 PM
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3. As always, thank you, David for saying the things that I only wish
I had the eloquence to say.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:24 PM
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4. Yes, yes, and yes!!! Highest recommendation.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:32 PM
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5. wonderful
is it on video?
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:25 AM
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7. thanks
i don't think so and it was pouring rain
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:22 AM
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6. AM K&R nt
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:19 AM
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8. End anti-socialism
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 02:58 PM
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9. Why of course yes. Only a filthy rich greedhead would try to stop it.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:41 PM
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10. Wow, well said!! Hear Here!
I love Progressive Values!!
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:32 PM
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11. K.I.S.S!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:34 PM
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12. Thank you for your eloquent statement -

At times you seem to be saying that President Obama isn't progressive enough and at other times you seem to be saying that the problem is Congress is too weak.

The President is as far out ahead of Congress as a President can effectively get and, given that we are only 60 days into a new administration, has established clear and bold new direction. The degree of seperation from the past will become increasingly wider.

A more powerful Congress? All they have to do become more powerful is to responsibly assert themselves, but they neither assert themselves nor do they act responsibly.

These are the people who committed us to war without asking the most basic of questions. They didn't even bother applying the basic rules of the 'Powell Doctrine', which would have killed the lust for the Iraqi War.

Our system is one of divided power. It is a system that allows for greater democracy over a wider geographic area. It gives regional and smaller populated areas power. It moves along incrementally. The only time it makes major changes is when the system collapses and power is concentrated into the executive branch, as it was in 1860 and 1932.

The reality is that other industrial democracies have only succeeded in more significant change, like universal health coverage, because they have a parlimentary system that concentrates all the executive and legislative power into a single party (or coalition).
The party in power is held accountable and loses power when it no longer maintains the popular madate of the majority of the people. It allows for big leaps, like nationalizing the health care system. It also allows for equally abhorrent big leaps as personified by Hitlers' manipulation of the German parliment.

The only way that enough power can be concentrated in our political system to successfully pass real structural change is to sustain 3-4 continuous congressional election victories as well as maintain electoral college superiority.

We are getting closer. Additional losses by the Republicans in the Senate will significantly marginalize them. The irony, almost incomprehensible irony, is that George Bush has so decimated the Republican Party that we are drawing closer to that point.

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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:41 PM
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15. Please don't blame the parliamentary system
for Hitler. The senile Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor with the connivance of Van Papen.

The Nazi Party's share of the vote actually declined from its 1932 peak in the final parliamentary elections before Hitler assumed the chancellorship in 1933.

In short, the Weimar system did not per se mandate that Hitler assume power; on the contrary, spineless German conservatives like the stooge Van Papen and the hapless Hindenburg guaranteed the Hitler disaster.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 02:02 AM
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17. I don't blame the parliamentary system for Hitler

But just as I see the parliamentary system as a vehicle for securing more progressive change, it has and will also be used by authoritarian forces as well. Our system makes significant change very very difficult to achieve while the parliamentary system allows for easier systemic change, for good or bad.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:37 PM
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18. i certainly do say
that obama is not progressive enough and that congress is too weak, as well as that congress is not progressive enough

i'm sorry if that's confusing
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 05:13 PM
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21. It is what it is

It is the American system of divided political power that makes incumbent on President Obama to take into account the minority political position. A more ideologically pleasing Chief Executive could have more strident ideological expression and get nothing passed.

We do not have a system that gives 'all power to the people'. That Democratic sentiment can be found in places in the former Yugoslavia or neighborhoods of Iraq where majority power translates to absolute power to ethnically cleanse a neighborthood in agreement with the 'power of the majority' in that neighborhood.

Our constiutional republic establishes constraints. An effective Chief Executive must manuever though that maze. To find President Obama faulty of achieving a progressive record 60 days after taking the oath of office, especially when the economic and financial services systems have been run into the ground is completely and unreservedly self indulgent, but you knew that.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:00 PM
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13. K&R!
End the wars and prosecute the war criminals!
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:23 PM
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14. I always appreciate a well crafted statement of direction
Now if only we had any legs....
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:43 PM
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16. Sadly I think it is already too late.
The only good that our empire can do now is to self destruct.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:51 PM
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19. These truly progressive threads are rare indeed!
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 12:54 PM by lunatica
Yes! We have a very long way to go, just to get people to realize that war itself is an insane terrorist activity. Before we can stop war we have to somehow assert sanity about the whole concept of what people think is 'normal human behavior'. We go to war so easily, as if it was perfectly ordinary. The idea that war is valid is a mass delusion that's extremely hard to counteract. The fundamental questions about the activity of war itself are hardly ever explored, much less asked.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 01:59 PM
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20. .
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