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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:26 AM
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State per pupil expenditures: How does your state rank?
Vermont ranks number 1. Utah comes in last. Vermont also has the smallest students to teachers ratio.

http://www.edweek.org/rc/articles/2009/01/21/sow0121.h27.html
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:29 AM
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1. north carolina 44
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:32 AM
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2. 6 of the bottom 9 are in the west
who would of thought. . . . .
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:52 AM
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15. That it wasn't the South?
Because, we know, from the comments on this board, that Southerners are stupid and uneducated.


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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:36 AM
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25. exactly . . . and I say that being from Florida - #41
and I am surprised to be that high.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:34 AM
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3. Shitstain Nevada reporting: 49th with $7,213 per student.
No wonder they have to send notices to parents in the good parts of town begging for donations of fucking paper towels! And this was ten years ago. I can only guess what it's like for the kids now. :puke:
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:54 AM
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5. Spamming these boards = instant ban
Stop wasting your time and ours, kthxbai.

You really want to help people you get your post count up and start a serious discussion. Otherwise, enjoy your very short stay.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 07:03 AM
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6. Isn't this a little misleading? Is this an actual $ per pupil or does it include
administration and facility maintenance numbers? For example DC spends a lot per student, but they have a massive administration (that is largely nonfunctional) and drives up the cost.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 07:06 AM
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7. Why are the administrative costs in DC so high?
:shrug:
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:18 AM
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11. Inefficient and sometimess corrupt adminstration. The new Mayor and his
director, Michele Rhee are working on addressing the problem.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 07:10 AM
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8. NY is 4th. Those numbers are deceptive because schools in NY don't have the same expenditure.
The individuals districts vary depending upon how affluent a community is.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 07:14 AM
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9. 48th- woo hoo!
Not particularly surprised at that; TX seems to manage that ranking on a variety of lists. Although instead of being ahead of, say, LA, AR, and MS (which is pretty typical), we're ahead of a few western states this time.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 07:38 AM
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10. I've looked at test data for all the schools in my state and the correlation between per student
expenditures and test performance are in the .02 to .03 range.

Surrogate measures for poverty have a correlation of about .65 with test performance.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:43 AM
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12. I am surprised Washington and California are so low
Washington especially. I read an article not long ago about the top rated high schools in America and Bellevue Washington had three in the top ten...
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:06 AM
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19. California passed prop 13 in the 70s
because its a huge state and has some extremely wealthy communities, it has some very highly rated schools...but for the most part the schools are dealing with high poverty, large non-English speaking populations, .... its not a formula for success
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:12 AM
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22. California should cut its prison population by about 1/3, cut prison staff, close prisons
And spend the money on schools instead.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:45 AM
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24. I wouldn't have a problem with that nt
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:46 AM
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13. 50th! Arizona is the bottom of the heap.
We were 49th, but our Legislature didn't think that was good enough and wanted to be 50th. Now members have been quoted as saying, "Education doesn't create jobs" and "There's no correlation between class size and quality." We get what we pay for here in The Valley of the Dumb.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:47 AM
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14. Jersey is 4, Wisconsin is 18
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:56 AM
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16. 42
Oklahoma...how depressing
:(
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:58 AM
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17. Pretty rank.....Washington 45th
I would have thought and hoped it would be higher. :shrug:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:00 AM
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18. #47
:banghead:

Right in between Tennessee and Texas. x(
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:09 AM
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20. 15th--however, unlike a lot of other states, WV actually spends more
of its money on the STUDENTS, rather than its administrators. If we adjusted these numbers to subtract inflated administrative costs, we'd be a lot higher.

I can complain about a lot of things in this state, but WV public schools are very good, considering how impoverished the state itself is and how low our property values (and thus, property tax revenues) are. There are some extremely poor counties with crappy schools, of course, but overall the school quality is a lot higher than other, similarly-impoverished states have.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:11 AM
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21. California ranks #47 in spite of being #10 in per capita taxes and #1 in tax rates on working people
We spend way too much money on prisons.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 10:21 AM
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23. No real "red state/blue state" dichotomy, it would appear -
you've got Wyoming, Alaska (go figure), and Montana in the top 10, while Illinois, Washington, and California rank closer to the bottom.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 11:36 AM
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26. Maryland is #23, yet is the highest ranked public school system in the country.
Interesting.

http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/pressrelease_details/2009_01_07

Education Week, the nation’s leading education newspaper, looked at data in six critical categories over the past two years, and found that Maryland’s state education system is at the very top of national rankings.

Maryland placed at the top of the list in Education Week’s tally, just ahead of Massachusetts. Other high-scoring systems include New York and Virginia.

Maryland’s ranking is based on student performance and State education policies that reflect more than a decade of work on a preK-12 curriculum; state accountability and standards; and work on school readiness, high school reform, and preparation for college and the workplace.

“School reform doesn’t happen overnight. It takes a long-term commitment to high standards and collaboration, always keeping in mind the students and the families we serve,” said State Superintendent of Schools Nancy S. Grasmick. “The ‘Quality Counts’ report reaffirms Maryland’s status as one of the nation’s most desirable places to live, work, and raise a family.”

Maryland has had a history of success in Education Week’s annual review of state education systems; it ranked third in the 2008 “Quality Counts” report. But this is the first time Maryland has ranked first overall.


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