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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:48 AM
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The Next Airline Fee: Buying Tickets?
MARCH 3, 2009

The Next Airline Fee: Buying Tickets?
By SCOTT MCCARTNEY
WSJ


There are fees for checked luggage, reservation changes and even pillows and blankets. And now, one airline is poised to start levying a fee when you simply buy a ticket. Spirit Airlines Inc., an ultra-low-cost carrier that has pioneered many fees, says it has worked out an agreement with the U.S. Department of Transportation to begin charging a "passenger usage fee" -- perhaps $5 to $10 per ticket -- for the privilege of buying a ticket anyplace other than at Spirit's airport ticket counters. The fee, designed to cover reservation-booking costs, will be part of Spirit's aggressive and edgy strategy, which doesn't always fly well with passengers. Spirit already has ruffled some feathers with its racy promotions, ads in airplane cabins and on flight-attendant uniforms, fees to reserve seats and the addition of travel insurance to tickets unless customers opt out.

Rival airlines aren't expected to follow Spirit's boundary-stretching usage fee -- unless it proves to be a successful revenue generator. Most airlines already charge to book through telephone reservation centers and will be watching closely to see if consumers acquiesce to broader booking fees. For airlines, one huge advantage of fees is that they don't show up in most reservation systems when consumers are shopping for airfares. That's because airlines aren't required to advertise fees that only certain customers will pay, like those checking baggage. As a result, head-to-head price comparisons at booking sites like Expedia.com, Travelocity.com and Orbitz.com become more difficult, and prices listed in travel-agency computers won't tell the whole story. What's more, low teaser rates can lure fliers, even if the ultimate cost of the travel is higher.

Spirit Chief Executive Ben Baldanza says he can't say when his airline will start charging the fee because the government bars carriers from talking about future pricing actions. The fee is simply part of Spirit's effort to separate as many services and costs out of base ticket prices as it can, he says. "We want people to know exactly what they are buying," Mr. Baldanza says. Spirit tried charging a $7.90 passenger usage fee last year, along with a $2.50 "natural occurrence interruption fee" (to cover storm-related costs) and an $8.50 "international service recovery fee" to pay for some taxes and fees the airline pays to foreign governments. But the DOT stepped in and ordered the airline to stop; federal rules require airlines to include airline-imposed charges that all customers must pay in advertised fares. Spirit was fined $40,000 but remained undeterred. Since then, the airline has been negotiating with the DOT to find an acceptable way under department rules to charge the passenger booking fee. "We will be reintroducing it in a way the DOT is comfortable with," Mr. Baldanza says.

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For consumers, fees have made the complex world of airline tickets that much trickier. When Mark Friedman of New York bought Spirit tickets for a trip to Florida later this month, he never imagined he'd have to pay extra to reserve a seat assignment in advance. Spirit's Web site offers little disclosure of that fee: You have to click through into "travel policies" to find a mention that Spirit charges a fee to reserve seats in advance ($15 for an exit-row seat one way; $12 for a window or aisle seat, $5 for a middle seat). The seat-assignment fee also doesn't show up on a pre-purchase page of add-ons Spirit offers, such as travel insurance. Only after a purchase is made does Spirit offer the opportunity to pay to reserve a seat with a second credit-card charge.

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Another potential trap for consumers: Spirit's Web site automatically checks the box to accept travel insurance. To avoid the added expense, consumers have to un-click the box. "It's not like we snooker people into buying it because more than 50% uncheck the box," Mr. Baldanza says.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123604492886515417.html (subscription)

Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page D4

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:52 AM
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1. Fly Southwest. Their motto is, that they hate fees as much as the other airlines seem to love them
And they are serious.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:54 AM
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2. Yup, that's pretty much who I'll fly anymore.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 01:00 AM
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6. They really are a great airline. They took no bailout after 9/11 and they didn't lay anyone off.
And the Top brass took a pay cut, right along with the rest of the employees. I love their rapid rewards miles. It's a great program and I should know, I have used it a lot.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 05:31 AM
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14. And they have planes that look like this.
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 05:31 AM by Angleae


What's not to like.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:54 AM
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3. They just now came to town
and, amazingly, Northwest flight to Chicago which were as high as $350 last fall, are now down to $49 (one way..)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:58 AM
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4. see? now i HATE southwest. -- people treated like they
are on cattle cars.

wouldn't fly them for love or money.

just made resies for united tonight.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:59 AM
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5. I can't stand their cattle call lines at the gate.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 01:02 AM
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7. Last time I fly Spirit to Atlanta....
they can officially jump up my ass now...

any airline that follows them can also...

I'm tired of being treated like crap and nickled and dimed to death for the privilege on the airlines.

Next time I get an opportunity to talk my Congressman about this subject I'm going to bring it up.

Airlines need to be broken up and forced to really compete for our business. They've merged too much and have too much power over the consumer.
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riverdale Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 01:47 AM
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8. My Ben Baldanza story
We had a horrendous experience with Spirit airlines one time. There really is not enough time to get into the details here. Long story short, after all we were put through, the airline offered us $50 off a future flight. I wrote an email letter of complaint to their CEO, thinking he might give a shit. Ben Baldanza "replied all" to a couple of people internally and me... his main problem with all that happened was that we were offered $50 off. I told them not to worry; no way I'll ever fly on that piece of shit airline again.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:14 AM
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9. You guys must have never heard of Ryanair.
Quite a successful airline actually...

But the boss is quite controversial. His latest remark? Make people pay to use the restroom on the plane. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7914542.stm

Oh and pay to buy a ticket? They already do that.

Michael O'Leary is something else; I found this site allegedly with his quotations. Now I know some of them are true: the one about offering blowjobs in business class is true. http://www.allgreatquotes.com/michael_oleary_quotes.shtml

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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:35 AM
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10. Brilliant!
Just like Ticketmaster for air flight. :puke:
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greenkal Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:45 AM
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11. You beat me to it!
with the Ticketmaster comparison. That was the one I was going to make. With the last few shows I've done, Ticketmaster made more money selling the tickets than I did doing the work.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:51 AM
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12. Flying is so ugly now
and on so many different levels and at every step of the process that I hope Obama brings back trains as part of rebuilding and restoring our national infrastructure. I mean trains like in the 1920s --- elegant and efficient.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 03:09 AM
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13. YES!
Bring on the trains!

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