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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:43 PM
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Anybody know why they STILL have the limits on carrying liquids on planes?
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 06:46 PM by Ken Burch
The "liquid bomb" plot was broken up almost THREE years ago. Why are they still restricting how much liquid stuff you can have in your carry-on bag?

Also, why is the security status still on Orange from that?

Just wondering if anybody had heard anything about this. Seems sort of pointless that Homeland Security won't let the liquid thing go yet.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:47 PM
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1. It's a Dog and Pony show
Did you think taking off your shoes made you any safer? No, of course not. Same.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:23 PM
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21. Because they don't want to admit "It was all a scam to keep you frightened"
So they have to pretend the danger was real forever.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:48 PM
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2. Because flying wasn't enough of a giant fucking pain in the ass before.
There's still a chance you might bring your own water on the plane; and as such not have to buy a 16 oz. bottle for seven bucks in the food court right past security.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:48 PM
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3. More than broken up. The "liquid bomb" plot was proven to be impossible.
You'd have to stir for something like over five hours and failing to keep a precise temperature would blow your face off, but nothing more. Or so said members of the American Chemistry Association. (Or whatever the national association is called. )
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 09:49 PM
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18. Yes, I read that.
It was and is utterly impossible. But we still have to keep the tiny plastic bottle industry humming.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:50 PM
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4. Just be glad they don't have the "no baggy pants" laws AND the "take your belt and shoes off" law
simulataneously. You'd take your belt off, the waist band of your boxers or tighty whities or thongs would show, and then they'd ticket you.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:56 PM
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5. Because we "feel safer" knowing that they are soooooo careful about the passengers.
Don't you feel safer? I feel so much safer yes I do... :eyes:

Bastards.

They've got us bending over and spreading our cheeks- meantime a mechanic could slip anything they want into the landing gear section.
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remedy1 Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 07:04 PM
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6. Because the TSA wants you to be afraid.
That way they can control you.

There is no way two liquids can be combined to create a device that will bring down an airplane.

If people would just refuse to fly for a week or two, this silly stuff like removing shoes and not taking makeup on an airplane would stop.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 07:34 PM
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7. I can at least understand the shoe thing.
Hell, my running shoes have soles so thick you could probably smuggle a goat in them, but the liquids thing has never made sense to me. I'm guessing it's one of those things that just got started and then they were to embarrassed to turn it off.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 07:37 PM
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8. Because God forbid something happens.
Its as dumb as that.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 07:40 PM
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9. Shampoo hates America?
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 07:46 PM
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10. So we have to buy drinks and stuff from the airport vendors
at their ridiculous prices. That's what I think.
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reg373 Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 07:48 PM
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11. Anybody know why they STILL have the limits on carrying liquids on planes?
probably just for irritable liquids more than anything.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 09:37 PM
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16. Earlier this week I was barred from bringing vegetarian oyster sauce in my carry on
(Yes, there is such a thing as "vegetarian oyster sauce", and while we're on the subject, regular oyster sauce doesn't actually have any oyster byproducts in it).

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 07:49 PM
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12. Because nobody has told them to stop yet, and they're certainly not going to admit
of their own volition, "yeah, we were just fuckin' with y'all, none of that shit made you any safer."
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 08:05 PM
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13. This brings up an intersting point that gets lost amidst all of the other bad stuff Bush did.
Under the Bush administration, air travel became longer, vastly more inconvenient, and ultimately humiliating for anyone who doesn't enjoy being treated like a criminal. I know it's the least of our worries with everything else going on in the world, but seriously we shouldn't forget this. Does anyone else remember what air travel was like before Bush?
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 11:01 PM
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22. I remember it.
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 11:01 PM by Mariana
I remember being able to show up at the airport less than an hour before the flight I wanted was scheduled to leave, pay cash for a ticket at the counter without showing ID, zip on through the metal detector and X-ray machine, board and be on my way. It really was that easy.

I could bring my knitting, too.



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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 02:12 AM
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23. Maybe His Evilness and Augustus Chimpus didn't like it that the peasants had hassle-free travel
How dare we be able to see the world without being treated like criminals?

:sarcasm:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 08:08 PM
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14. give a nazi prison guard a vest and an orange flashlight
and you'll have to take it away from him by force.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 08:11 PM
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15. I, for one, feel threatened by hair gel.
I :loveya: TSA
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 09:47 PM
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17. It pissed me off to see them pulling a guy out with an artificial leg.
They had him sit down and take it off, so they could inspect it, then wiped everything with their explosive detector pads.

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Cairycat Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:09 PM
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19. Hellooo ...that lady with the
breast milk (she pumped for her 4-month old while on this business trip) really is trying to blow you up. Better detain her or better yet, make her drink it to prove she's OK.

I'd like to say I'm joking ....
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:20 PM
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20. When you can't or aren't willing to
enact an effective policy a visible policy is the next best thing.

The last time I flew on the way there my sunglasses were broken and a notice was slipped in my checked bag indicating it had been searched. On the way bag after repeatedly telling them I didn't have any firearms in my checked luggage I accidentally brought half a bottle on vodka in my carry on and didn't get caught.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:39 AM
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24. Because TSA likes to keep us afraid, and they hire bullies to keep us in line.
Of course that's only my opinion.

Hekate


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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:08 AM
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25. Yes - they took dear Mom in Law's cosmetics last week.
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 06:09 AM by SmileyRose
they also took her solid underarm deodorant and perfume. She did not have shampoos and what not as I had here for her but cosmetics are difficult to keep fresh enough with long gaps between visits.

Father in law was smarter - we keep him a stash here anyways......


oooops - sorry I read that as "Does anyone know IF" not "why" -- no sleep last night so I'm loopy.
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