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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:11 PM
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Limbaugh to listeners today: The states aren't out of money...

It's all a fairy tale. All the money in the stimulus package for the states is just unnecessary pork.

Trust me, Rush, I'm thinking offhand, that governors aren't too pleased politically speaking, to be announcing that their states must lay off state workers, suspend pensions and also suspend state income tax refunds....
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:13 PM
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1. Someone needs to keep a handle on what he is saying over the airways.
This idiot is on the verge of calling for a violent insurrection with his lies.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:14 PM
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2. TELL THAT TO CALIFORNIA, FAT BOY!
Mandatory furloughs, 20K workers getting the axe possibly
today ... Oh, yeah, for you and Phil Gramm, it's just all
in our HEADS ...
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:29 PM
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21. Of course, one of the primary reasons Cali is out of money...
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 03:31 PM by gcomeau
...massive global economic disaster aside, is that the residents of the state pay almost 300 billion dollars in federal taxes, but receive only about 250 billion back in federal spending. Similar ratios apply to states like... New York, New Jersey, Washington, Illinois, Massachusetts, Deleware, Minnesota, Wisconsin... sense a pattern?

Meanwhile, the residents of Mississippi pay about 12 billion in Federal taxes and get back 25 billion in Federal spending. Where did that extra money come from? All the blue states tax revenues, that's where.

Alabama? Pays 24 billion in taxes, gets 42 billion back.
West Virginia? 9 billion in taxes, 16 billion back.
Alaska? 5 billion in taxes, 9 billion back.
North Dakota? 4 billion in taxes, 7 billion back.
Louisiana? 20 billion in taxes, 39 billion back.
Kentucky? 22 billion in taxes, 34 billion back.

Etc...

If California got as much Federal spending poured back into the state as it pays out in Federal taxes it would completely erase their entire budgetary shortfall with cash left over. But of course that would bankrupt all those red states who basically exist in a state of perpetual large scale welfare while all the Republican legislators who represent them demonize Democrats for the evils of "wealth distribution" and point at the budget problems California is currently having and blame it on California being "Liberal" while they cash the checks the Federal government is writing them backed by California's money.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:32 PM
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24. All those states that get back more could be called "Welfare Queens"
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 03:33 PM by LSparkle
getting back more than they pay in ... And why are
they all RED STATES?????

:argh:
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:40 PM
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27. There are a couple blue states in the receiving column.
Hawaii gets significantly more federal funding than it pays into the system... so does Maine... but pretty much EVERY deep red republican state, with the sole exception of Texas which is basically break-even, is a net drain on federal tax revenue. The blue states carry the load as far as the federal budget goes.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:26 PM
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37. I was gonna say I'm pretty sure my home state of ME is in the receiving column
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:55 PM
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30. Hello gcomeau
I've seen this data reported a number of times and think it's stunning. Would you mind providing a link to the website where you got this from. I'd like to keep it handy.
Thanks.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:11 PM
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32. Links...
http://www.nemw.org/taxburd.htm <--- has the 2005 data. For some reason I can only find the 2004 data on the site from the writers of the report though, maybe my search parameters need tweaking:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr139.pdf <-- report with 2004 data

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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:25 PM
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36. Aha! Additional link.
Found the original 2005 data from the source cite. It's buried in a cumulative historical review of all the data for the last 2 and a half decades and not as conveniently formatted as the other tables unfortunately... but it does have a lot more info to browse through for historical trends.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/22685.html
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:46 PM
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42. Ha! Amen to that nt
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:14 PM
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3. Might as well give a voice to Charles Manson on that station too.
He'd be a voice of reason in comparison.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:17 PM
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4. Tell that to every Repuke Governor that is going to take our money.
Is Rush high again??????? LOL!!!
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:18 PM
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5. He and his co-horts live in an alternate reality. Black is white, up is down.
You can't try to reason with people who can't face reality.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:19 PM
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7. It's just a shame that those people have access to a microphone.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:18 PM
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6. you know, rush, most people who are as delusional as you are in the happy dell home,
with VERY special garments, and not allowed to play with sharp objects.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:20 PM
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10. ROFLMAO!!!!
:toast:

Sweeeeeet!!!
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:19 PM
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8. If this fat slob is right...can he send half of his fortune to Wisconsin?
http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/localblogs/437988

Give me a break! What a clueless piece of trash. Why does he still have a microphone?????
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:20 PM
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9. Wonder how Limpballs would do if he had to get a real job, like the rest of us...
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 03:22 PM by Aristus
Parasite...

Edited to change "Pig Boy" to "Limpballs". I'll never call him Pig Boy again. Pigs are highly intelligent, compulsively clean animals who deserve better than to be compared to that walking anal sphincter...
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:24 PM
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12. He would fail
as he has failed at everything his entire life until reagan did away with the fairness doctrine and made lying and distorting and hating on the public airwaves acceptable and unchecked. Its the only thing he and his kind know how to do. They have never, ever done anything positive for our country. And to boot, he has no friends and no social life. A roomful of psynchophants does not a party make. But Alas My Poor Friend Aristus, I am opining to the choir.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:23 PM
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11. When people actually get those IOUs instead of tax refunds, .....
...what do you think they will say to their Norquist-sucking Repuke state congresspeople? "Attaboy"? I don't think so.

Rush, your world is coming to an end, you junkie pedophile.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:26 PM
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15. He hates America
so much even though it's made him filthy rich and really, really fat
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:24 PM
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13. Sure... they'd love to continue their fairy tale.
But as the President signs the package... and here we stand, I doubt it will happen!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:25 PM
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14. CONTROL-F, searching for "brain cells"............ not found.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:23 PM
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34. try again - this time try "anal cyst"
when refering to limbaugh's brain.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:27 PM
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16. hahaha! Rush got the idea from a DUer.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:27 PM
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17. evil lying fascist bastard... a whore for the wealthy
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:28 PM
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18. He will change that tomorrow
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 03:28 PM by Andy823
He will correct himself and say "ONLY red states are out of money"! :sarcasm:

I think he is running out of brain cells and the "one" he has left doesn't know what it is talking about! I hope some of those republican governors who have their hands out for the money hear about his comments and tell him where to shove his opinions!:evilgrin:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:28 PM
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19. The sooner that fat son of a bitch chokes on a bratwurst and dies, the better.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:02 PM
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31. Or when he chokes on a brat and dies
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:32 PM
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39. I don't know which is wurst (worst?)
Good retort, mitchum.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:29 PM
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20. No different than the lie he's been telling for 20 years.
You aren't paying taxes for services, you are paying taxes to enable govt "waste."

It's the lie behind all anti-tax propaganda. If you told voters the truth, that they can pay lower taxes if they want to live without roads and police and fire fighters and libraries and social security, the GOP couldn't get a candidate elected for dog-catcher.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:37 PM
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40. But it's more
offensive than ever because people are literally dying daily in the street because of our economic times. Sorry but this is not even close to ok anymore. The entire world has changed and things that might have been funny even a year ago are not even slightly humorous now.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:30 PM
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22. He is so jealous of Obama he's becoming more and more spiteful. Obama
has charm, class, charisma along with being BLACK!!!! Poor Rush, he never saw this coming but the real hurt in this is that Obama has a huge following which includes many, many repubs. Rush is not "the man", never really was "the man" and I think he knows his time in the spotlight is dwindling down to a glimmer.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:31 PM
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23. When he hears the word "stimulus" his mind wanders to those sunny Dominican days with underaged
prostitutes and a handful of Viagra. He just can't think clearly on this topic.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:41 PM
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28. bingo! And then his brain forms disjointed thoughts.


It is a chronic disorder.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:34 PM
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25. Rush has fried his brains with pills. Out here in California,
we know that Arnold's a pretty good actor, but he ain't that good. We're definitely hurting.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:37 PM
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26. shark jumping 101. More evidence he's in need of psychiatric help.


I'm thinking his is a lost cause.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:43 PM
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29. I have an idea.
Can someone post Rush's email addresses? We should all Google "our state name" and budget shortfall - get the most recent story and then email it to Rush.

Tenn. budget shortfall reaches almost $500 million
By ERIK SCHELZIG, 02.06.09, 03:05 PM EST
pic

Tennessee's tax collections have fallen nearly a half-billion dollars short of expectations through the first six months of the current budget year.

The state Finance Department says general fund revenues came in at nearly $103 million below projections in December. That brought the shortfall for the first half of the fiscal year to $482 million.


http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/02/06/ap6019838.html

Maybe if he gets hundreds of these, he'll realize that, yes, the states ARE out of money.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:12 PM
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33. He must be out of Oxycotin
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:23 PM
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35. he's jonesin' for sure....
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:27 PM
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38. Is he high?
Wait till he has to have armed guards* surrounding his compound, because the city he lives in can't afford adequate police and fire personnel anymore.

If anyone thinks I've been sniffing glue this morning, this is where we're headed unless things radically improve, like it or not.

MV

*I do not wish any ill on Limbaugh or any member of his family. This is for example purposes only.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:46 PM
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43. How exactly do you
ostracize someone because if he doesn't deserve to be I don't know who does ?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:42 PM
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48. I don't know what you're talking about
Please rephrase.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:45 PM
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41. Somebody should send a digital recording
of this dick head's latest bullshit to every governor's office in the country!

While this multimillionaire bloviator sack of shit spews his bile day after day, governors around the nation are dealing with revenue shortfalls of record proportions. They are laying off teachers and first responders and cutting services.

And the urgency of these governors' actions is forced in many cases by the very laws that Reaganomics with blowhard's like Limpballs pushing all the way that are now in force in some states--laws that require balanced budgets, laws that require super legislative majorities or voter referendum to raise taxes.

These assholes passing their "all taxes are bad" bullshit have left the states fully impotent in dealing with a crisis such as this. And I'm sure that lying sack of steaming shit Limbaugh knows full well he is lying.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:07 PM
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45. Thank You
my point exactly this is very serious. I love a good joke but enough already from him it's so offensive.

While this multimillionaire bloviator sack of shit spews his bile day after day, governors around the nation are dealing with revenue shortfalls of record proportions. They are laying off teachers and first responders and cutting services.
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:06 PM
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44. Florida is talking about going to 4 Day school weeks
Because of lack of money.

Take another dose of Hillbilly Heroin, Rush.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:08 PM
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46. ru$h is an extremely wealthy blowhard....his audience thinks he's an average guy bwahahahah
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:09 PM
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47. Where does Limpballs think the state gets the money to kick the bill on his viagra?
What a buffoon.
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