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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:57 AM
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CHIMP SHOT DEAD !!
Did you think it was Dubya??


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29227429/

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STAMFORD, Conn. - A 200-pound chimpanzee kept as a pet and once used in commercials was shot and killed by police Monday after it mauled a woman visiting its owner and later cornered an officer in his cruiser, authorities said.

Stamford police Lt. Richard Conklin said the injured woman was hospitalized late Monday in "very serious" condition at Stamford Hospital; her identity was not immediately released. Conklin said she suffered "a tremendous loss of blood" from serious facial injuries.

The 15-year-old chimpanzee's owner and two officers also were hurt, though police said the extent of their injuries was not immediately known.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:59 AM
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1. Hrmmm Teenager
and no adult male chimp around to contain his impulsiveness.... not good.

Too bad for the chimp.

Sad situation all around.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:05 AM
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8. 15 year old chimp is not an equivalent of human teenager.
He'd be considered a mature animal if he was wild.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 05:28 AM
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34. In Planet of the Apes the gorillas are the warlike apes
but actually chimps are much more aggressive and warlike than gorillas. There is an IMAX video that shows chimps engaging in tribal warfare with one another.

The video also shows young chimps and baboons playing together until the adults shut it down.

An interesting commentary on the primate condition.

I feel bad for the woman that got mauled, but, this may sound insensitive, I don't feel as bad as for the woman in San Fran who was just trying to get into her apartment when she was killed by two dogs from a neighboring apartment. This woman had a prior relationship with the chimp owner, and was actually there to try to corral the chimp.

Owners should be held criminally liable for the behavior of their animals. This chimp's owner should be in jail.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:01 AM
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2. And, this is why they are not pets
Apparently, he got loose once before and "wreaked havoc" for a few hours. He's lucky he didn't get shot then.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:07 AM
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9. Photo of Travis
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:11 AM
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12. Man, Travis was fat
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:18 AM
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17. I'm guessing it was all that logging onto the internet/web surfing vs. foraging for food
like a normal chimp (she says as she types on the computer keyboard wondering whether she'll ever lose that extra weight).
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:15 AM
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15. Sad to see the bars of his cell and him with a smile on his face.
....may he rest in peace now. :(
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:18 AM
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19. yes, although a part of me notes Travis had quite an interesting experience during his lifespan
Tragic
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:37 AM
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21. That is not a smile. It's a grimace, as in fear - they're trained to make that face
through fear, because we mistake it for a smile and think it's cute.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:49 AM
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23. There's a place called Chimp Haven 22 miles south of Shreveport, Louisiana....
http://www.chimphaven.org/about-mission.cfm

....at least some get to live out their lives in a sort of relative peace.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:09 PM
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33. kick
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:01 AM
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3. Probaly lost it after reading this.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:02 AM
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4. Do chimps get that big? nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:02 AM
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6. Um, yeah, they're big. nt
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:47 AM
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30. They have four or five times human strength, too.
They can rip your arm off.

Magnificent, intelligent animals, but they shouldn't be pets.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:02 AM
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5. Too bad for the lady who is disfigured for life...
...because some idiot thought it would be fun to have a dangerous wild animal as a pet.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:12 AM
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13. Yeah the MSNBC report on it said it was "very brutal"
the owner went into the house (think about how long that took) got a butcher knife-that didn't work-then she got a shovel-that didn't work- ended up wrestling the 200 pound chimp off her friend who was attacked as she was getting out of her car (came to help coral the chimp)

ended up with the chimp busting a passenger side mirror off a police cruiser (the cops had retreated into their cars after giving cover for the EMT's) the chimp walked around and opened the door to the car and tried to enter the car. The cop had no option than to fire "several times" and kill the chimp.

Apparently the chimp was toilet trained, washed itself, clothed itself, and even drank wine from a stemmed glass. He was a part of their household. It was legal-they were grandfathered when the laws changed.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:58 AM
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25. reminds me of the chimps in the fresno area
who attacked their owner BRUTALLY also. they bit the man and woman's fingers off, as well as the man's behind, face, etc. i remember being horrified when that happened :(

chimps are extremely powerful creatures.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:15 AM
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27. Most people do not understand that Chimps can and have murdered people
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 11:15 AM by Marrah_G
They are NOT cute and cuddly. Even among their own they can behave very violently. They have been known to kill each other, even kill infants.

They also hunt monkey to eat.

For note, they always bite off the fingers and toes first......
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:42 AM
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28. This is surprising?
They are OUR closest relatives, after all.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 12:05 PM
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32. Yup !
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:02 AM
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7. Reminds me of the end of an old children's book "Toby Tyler".
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 10:23 AM by no_hypocrisy
Toby runs away from his abusive aunt and uncle and joins the circus. He befriends a chimp whom he names Mr. Stubbs. At the end, Mr. Stubbs becomes a little erratic and feral and is shot by a member of a posse, and dies in Toby's arms. It's up there with the end of "Ole Yeller" as far as a tearjerker.



No matter how domesticated these primates become, there is always a part that remains true to its native instincts. Like dogs and cats who will bite under certain circumstances.

What a tragedy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:08 AM
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10. Indeed, Travis was in human arms since he was THREE DAYS OLD. And yet still wild.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:13 AM
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14. Actually, being in human arms from three days old might make a wild animal *more* dangerous
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 10:13 AM by LeftishBrit
In general, allowing a non-domesticated animal to grow up regarding humans as part of its social group may increase the chance of aggression toward humans. Most wild animals keep their distance from humans and want nothing more from us than that we should leave them alone. However, a wild animal brought up in close contact with humans is more likely to regard humans as part of its 'pecking order', and to attempt to establish dominance through aggression.

Sad story.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:08 AM
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11. Mistaken identity?


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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:16 AM
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16. That has to be one fat chimpanzee! nt
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:18 AM
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18. Time to review "exotic pets" laws
and see if we can't eliminate all species that have not been truly domesticated, not merely 'tamed'. It's not fair to either the animals or the innocent people that get hurt.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:33 AM
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20. PUT. THE. BANANA. DOWN. nt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:39 AM
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22. Are chimps endangered?
Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to have a freaking chimpanzee as a pet?
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zagging Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:52 AM
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I've been in the back of a few cruisers
I don't blame the chimp for freaking out. They're pretty goddam claustrophobic places.
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zagging Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:52 AM
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24. I've been in the back of a few cruisers
I don't blame the chimp for freaking out. They're pretty goddam claustrophobic places.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:59 AM
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26. I sure hope he was potty trained
If not, Yikes!!!!!
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:46 AM
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29. Chimps gone wild.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:48 AM
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31. Oh snap ...I thought this was going to be a Bush obituary.
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 05:51 AM
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35. This made me think of Poe's "Murders in the Rue Morgue".



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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 06:31 AM
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36. Anybody here remember...
...the movie 'Link' with Terence Stamp? It's not a classic but certainly watchable and this story reminds me of it.

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