Should civil rights in America be based entirely on age and place of birth?

[Boojatta]

[SharonAnn]

Hmm, maybe we should include race, gender and sexual orientation? Religion?

[notadmblnd]

1. No

[hfojvt]

2. Aren't they based on FIDE chess rankings?

They should be.

[FormerDittoHead]

3. That's what the other guy said.

And then I said, no way.

He said, well, on the other hand, there's that other thing in that other message about what I saw on the channel you're not watching.

He then told me I shouldn't make posts that are replies to other things or threads without giving some context for those not in synch to what you're talking about.

go figure.

[Deja Q]

4. Well, ageism stinks, hollywood loves to promote jailbait over real people, and other countries do.

They have their own laws for their own citizens, that is -- I don't know how they treat the aged but most societies don't treat their elders as disposable nincompoops. Mind you, many of ours that feel the need to run for power help to form the stereotype...

Nothing wrong with the US doing the same.

Now if everybody is willing to collapse their borders and become a one world government, that's cool. The questions are simple:

1. Would everybody be so bold?
2. Would they claim to, wait for others to tear down their walls, take advantage of the situation, then build walls around theirs?

[petronius]

5. Yes. If your place of birth is 'Earth' and your age is somewhere between

0 and dead, you should have civil rights in America (and, more specifically, in the United States)...

:shrug:

[Deja Q]

7. How about other countries? Or are they not part of this Earth? (irony sucks)

How nice should we be if others won't be. At what point do we be sincere only to react if there is betrayal?

And, quite obviously, it works the other way around too with other countries.

It's a noble prospect, a one world government. The issue here is the practicality, practicability, and that pesky human nature stuff because nobody likes a nerdy Vulcan to run anything.

[panader0]

6. I was born in San Francisco and I'm 58 and quite civil. Okay?

[Warren Stupidity]

8. Is this "Guess the Context"?

I love that game!

[MineralMan]

12. I believe the game is "Get the Guest."

I love that game.

[msongs]

9. base on it whether you like real maynnaise or yucky miracle whip nt

[cliffordu]

10. Should be based on how much CNN/MSNBC you watch a day

anything under 5 hours a day and you cannot POSSIBLY be informed enough to be entrusted with RIGHTS.

[MineralMan]

11. Well, now...it has been some time...

I believe that civil rights should be based entirely on how complete and coherent an original post is. In the instant case, your civil rights are hereby removed. You may choose the country to which you will be deported. If you do not choose within 48 hours, you will be deported to Paraguay, where you will serve as the livery servant to George W. Bush upon his arrival.

[jody]

13. Interesting question, the right to keep and bear arms is a civil right so why should birthplace be a

factor?

[TahitiNut]

14. Perhaps some distinction between 'civil rights' and 'democratic entitlements' is needed?

For example, we all have the 'right' of political self-determination and 'right' of assembly and 'right' of dissent ... but the 'entitlement' of citizenship is the manner in which we delineate the extent to which the exercise of our rights does not infringe on the rights of others. After all, should anyone be rightfully able to participate in the self-governance of more than one community of citizens? If it's OK to vote in more than one country, then is it right to vote in more than one place in a single country? Doesn't the principle of "one person one vote" extend beyond national boundaries?

I see a marked distinction between 'human rights' and the perquisites and entitlements of citizenship. Despite the frequent dismissal of national boundaries as "imaginary lines" I profoundly doubt that the right of political self-determination can be made manifest without such boundaries. That said, I vehemently oppose those who'd contend that the human rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are merely the entitlements of citizenship. They're not. The Constitution is CLEARLY intended to limit the delegated powers of government. When that government violates those boundaries it is a crime against the People, under whose authority that government obtains its only legitimacy.

With respect to age, I regard the human rights of minors to be held in trust for them by their guardians/parents. As trustees, their parents/guardians are duty-bound to act with the best interests of those minors. When they don't, their role as trustees MUST be abrogated and given to another. It's NOT that those rights don't exist - they do - it's that the civil liberties associated with such rights are constrained until they reach the age of responsibility.

[suston96]

15. Don't understand the question. All civil rights are based on our natural rights -

Natural rights come to us at birth.

Could you explain the question? I like talking about rights - civil and natural.

[alfredo]

16. Shoe size

[norepubsin08]

17. No, more and more it's based on your credit rating

[Occam Bandage]

18. No. Naturalization is acceptable as well.

[leftofthedial]

19. Of course not.

The American Way is for civil rights to be based on who yo daddy was.