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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:45 AM
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Which is the worst threat to our society? Marijuana, tobacco or liquor?
Which of these three would you least want your kid to mess around with, or get addicted to?

This weird trend of banning cigarettes from all public places seems odd for a society that tolerates liquor stores, and bars, and throws you in jail for smoking a joint.

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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:48 AM
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1. Tobacco's the worst, IMO. nt
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:51 AM
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2.  tobacco- the only product that we know of that when used AS DIRECTED that will kill you
the opening line of a Peter Jennings anti-smoking special back in the 90's
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:13 AM
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14. What does he mean "as directed"?
How much tobacco per day is one "directed" to smoke? There is to recommended daily allowance here.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:36 AM
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23. As directed means to smoke or dip
how much is another matter
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:49 AM
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26. ... but that's a silly thing to say.
It's possible to drink enough water, "as directed", to kill yourself much more quickly. Without giving a quantity, the statement is meaningless.
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:51 AM
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3. Tobacco only, kills more people per annum, far more,
Edited on Mon Feb-09-09 07:52 AM by RJ Connors
than all illegal drugs combined. This is a fact that has been know for decades.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:51 AM
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4. Well since tobacco stinks the house up and has no added benefit whatsoever
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:00 AM
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10. Okie,, My pipe has stuck with me thru. 2 wives and half a dozen Toronado's
there is at least some benefit that comes from it,, I did not say it was healthy, just loyal..
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:07 AM
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38. A half-dozen Toronado's?
Damn.



I've never known someone to survive that many of those type of Oldsmobiles!



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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:06 AM
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13. pipe smoke smells good
Carly
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specialed Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:54 AM
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5. Caffeine
That shit is lethal.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:56 AM
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6. Don't you mess with my coffee!
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:15 AM
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15. Exactly, They fought a war over tea once,,
they wont believe the war that will take place, if they mess with my coffee
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:56 AM
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30. AMEN!!!!!!! Give me my coffee and nobody gets hurt!!!!!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:56 AM
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7. entitled CEOS. Halliburton. big pharma. the GOP
all of these are a million times worse than your three.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:57 AM
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8. Prohibition has always been the biggest source of trouble
As it was under prohibition. Todays violent gangs are fueled by the constant flow of cash from the illegal drug trade. So it would seem that the number of Drive by Shootings, and much additional violence is of your list most attributabe to marijuana.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:35 AM
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22. I second that!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 07:59 AM
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9. Republicans.
Closely followed by the DLC and their minions. (And I do mean "closely followed"...)
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:03 AM
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11. liquor
Liquor is the worst IMO, you're most likely to kill yourself or others under the influence of liquor.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:05 AM
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12. liquor hands down
I have seen the literal destruction of many a family because of alcohol.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:18 AM
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16. None of these are huge threats "to society".
Used in moderation, they are not particularly threatening to individuals either. That said, I would not want to be addicted to any of them, nor would I want my children addicted. The key is always moderation.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:22 AM
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17. They're all fun!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:22 AM
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18. Rich people!
They threaten our very existence and must be eradicated!
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:24 AM
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19. How about "idiots who cannot handle all of the above."?
People who make getting drunk/stoned a cornerstone of their life to the point where they cannot control things and feel the need to turn to jesus and ruin things for everyone else who can handle them.

Don't think that happens with tobacco so much. It just makes me cough and buy more so I quit...
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:29 AM
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20. Liquor
A friend of mine is an Oral Muscle Facial surgeon. He worked for a while in trauma and he said every case had the same thing in common, a male from 22-30 and liquor. From car accidents, to stabbings, to beatings, etc. He said with booze out of the equation he would be looking for a new job.

I would say liquor with tobacco a close second.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:33 AM
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21. I vote for HMOs and health insurance companies.
Tobacco is the worst for you, booze is the worst for society. But attempting to stomp out all the bad things in the world can be bad for you too.
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:37 AM
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24. Tobacco with all those chemicals that the cigarette pushers add
Tobacco wouldn't be nearly as bad if it weren't for all those nasty chemicals that they add to *enhance flavor* and make them burn nice and evenly.

I wouldn't want anyone I know to become addicted to cigarettes. Been there. Its hard to quit.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:42 AM
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25. None
The way people use-and possibly abuse--these and other products is the problem.

That being said, I think they are going overboard about banning smoking, mainly because it is driving smokers outdoors, where they expose their habits to anyone passing by. Better to have "tobacco bars" where people can smoke inside and it is contained. I say this as a person who works in a health clinic where many patients are extremely chemically sensitive. I know how they suffer if they even get a whiff of tobacco smoke.

Marijuana should be legalized, taxed, and regulated, just as alcohol is. I believe legalization would result in fewer youngsters getting involved with the stuff and with other drugs.

Alcohol causes a lot of problems, but the greatest one for society is drunk driving, imho. And it is interesting that drunk driving accidents are often greater in "dry" counties where, again, there is no regulation of the bootleggers--legalization and regulation helps keep things more under control, I think.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:52 AM
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27. None of these are a great threat to out society.
:toast: :smoke: :smoke: I think organized religion is a far greater threat.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:23 AM
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33. !
:thumbsup:
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:53 AM
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28. If one were to base it on damage to society it would be alcohol hands down.
Not even close.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:54 AM
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29. In terms of a social evil, that is liquor.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:56 AM
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31. Tobacco. Nothing good can be said about cigarette smoking.
It stinks and it kills, stick by stick.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:21 AM
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32. Liquor. While smoking may kill you, liquor will ruin your life.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:27 AM
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34. to add to your three:
Edited on Mon Feb-09-09 10:28 AM by bdamomma
threat to our society: Republicans.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:30 AM
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35. Liquid crack.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:44 AM
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36. Liquor.
You should have made a poll! :)
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:52 AM
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37. Well - in honesty tobacco doesn't even belong on the list
Tobacco might kill some of the people who regularly use it but that doesn't pose any threat to society. Social activity continues, interaction goes on, and nothing is much different with it or without it. Marijuana tends to increase social activity, interaction, cooperation, and so its certainly no threat at all. Alcohol (hope you don't mind my expanding your liquor to the larger subject) by contrast creates agressive and often hostile behavior - antisocial behavior. So the answer is pretty straight forward.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:22 AM
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39. liquor, hand down, is the worst


because it causes trouble for EVERYONE around the alcoholic. family, job, neighbors, everyone in their sphere.

tobacco sickens/kills the smoker and perhaps a few people who are around the smoker all the time.

maryjane doesn't hurt anybody. nor is it addictive.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 05:58 PM
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40. Tobacco & Liquor are the worst. n/t
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 06:02 PM
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41. Liquor Is the Only One That's a Real Danger to Innocent People
Having said that, there are far worse things to worry about than any of those three. Nothing's bad in moderation.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 06:03 PM
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42. war. Stop banning substances and stop killing people in the name of "national security".
please.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 06:32 PM
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43. I hope my children do not use any of the aforementioned ...
... or use these substances very sparingly.

I strongly believe in the decriminalization of all "recreational drugs/illicit substances," with that said I even more strongly discourage the use of these substances.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 06:55 PM
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44. From my personal life experiences,
I would have to say alcohol. I don't know about down there, but alcohol exacts a huge social toll in Alaska.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 06:59 PM
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45. None of those things threaten society
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:55 AM
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46. ...........
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