When Democrats apologize.. (Today Show)

[annabanana]

Christine Vandenheuvel has to go and watch the old Clinton witch hunt tapes. She was not able to launch an effective counterpunch to Lauer & some RW harpy who are excoriating Obama because he admitted to weaknesses in his vetting of a couple of nominees..

This isn't cable, kids... this is RW Wurlitzer NETWORK revving up it's pipes, ready to do to Obama exactly what they did to Clinton.

[democracy1st]

1. true the Obama Administration had better get their a.. in check real fast

and battle these guys or the lies will cloud every issue from this day forward.

[anonymous171]

7. Give Obama one year. One of year of being under constant attack by Republicans.

Then he will learn what all Dem lawmakers should learn: You cannot reason with the GOP. You cannot "compromise" with them, you can only concede to them.

[droidamus2]

2. One thing

One thing that should be very evident to President Obama and his people is that the Right wing will pull the same things they did on Clinton. One of the main methods used was to continually lie and try to create mini-scandals to keep the President busy trying to 'put out the fires' and thus weaken his ability to accomplish anything. If Obama truly believes in his bipartisan/post-partisan idea he has to realize he will only get the Republicans cooperation from a position of power. He has to show them that he can effectively go over their heads (and the right wings echo chambers heads) straight to the American people and convince them of the rightness of his positions. President Obama has to show he won't back down or capitulate to every demand the right wing makes or they will run over him.

[eilen]

3. Yeah, the did he wait too long to apologize

shit... He's been in office two weeks. WTF.

[NOW tense]

4. WTF?

He admitted to weakness by saying my bad? Since when is taking blame for something weakness? So Bush was strong because he wouldn't except blame ever? WTF?

[annabanana]

5. I'm talking about the media's uniform response to it...

Like sharks with chum in the water...

[Still Sensible]

8. I'm not seeing that

on CNN they have been rather strong in pointing out how this differs from the prior administration and giving Obama kudos for basically taking responsibility for the appointment and moving on. Admittedly, I'm not monitoring Faux or Morning Joe.

[Hubert Flottz]

6. I can't watch the Toady Show with Matt Liar...

It's like watching FOX.

[Kahunna]

9. I don't think the media is being any harsher on Obama .....

I think the mainstream media has simply already grown tired of coddling this president. Talk was cheap on the campaign trail.

I voted for Obama and I expect him to do as he said he would.

I only hope that this is the last time we have to hear Obama say "I screwed up".

I would hate to hear him say "I screwed up" after another 9/11 style attack that could have been prevented through tougher interrogation techniques or had the master minds still been in Guantanamo.

[OnyxCollie]

10. We'll have to torture harder!

Enjoy your stay.:eyes:

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[Kahunna]

15. This is no time for Hate

This is no time to be so hateful and name call.

We have a new president who needs our support but he must do as he said he would do or he looses all credibility.

We all need to work together to move our country forward and to protect ourselves from those who want to destroy us.

We need to clean up this stimulus bill by getting all the crap out of it and get a real bi-partisan stimulus bill passed.

If Obama goes back on what he promised such as ethics in government or acting in a bi-partisan manner I expect the media to call him on it every day until he and the people around him realize that that behavior won't be tolerated.

This is how we keep our politicians honest.

Screaming and calling names won't solve anything.

[Marr]

16. I'm sorry if the truth stings.

[OnyxCollie]

17. Yeah, the "librul" media will keep our politicians honest.

The same way they called bullshit on the Iraq war.

The same way they called bullshit on domestic surveillance, I mean terrorist surveillance.

The same way they called bullshit on Pentagon propaganda campaigns.

Go back to watching Hannity.

[gratuitous]

19. So, what "crap" is in the stimulus bill?

Do you have specific items in this $818 billion package that you feel won't create jobs or help the United States get back on its feet after eight years of the usual fiscally irresponsible misrule of the GOP?

Please list out any or all specific "crap" items and their cost, and if you would be so kind, the percentage of the entire package that those items represent. For example, $850 million for Amtrak would represent a little more than one tenth of one percent of the stimulus bill. Of course, there are any number of folks who would argue that improving rail service, especially high-speed rail service isn't really a boondoggle, so that's probably not a good example.

Also, which Republicans, by name, do you expect would change their minds and vote for the stimulus bill so it could be really bi-partisan after all the "crap" is cleaned out?

[Jazzgirl]

21. Obviously you believe in the puke version of

"bi-partisan" which is basically Dems capitulate to everything the pukes want. No damn thank you! I am sick of it and Dems need to figure out once and for all the shit doesn't work!!!!

Enjoy your stay......

[gratuitous]

23. Kahunna? Hello?

I realize you have only two posts and you may be accustomed to the way other boards operate, but here at DU, if someone asks some questions about your post, it's courteous to respond. Could you please identify the "crap" you claim is in the stimulus package, and which Republicans you think will vote for it once the "crap" is cleaned out?

Your post seemed really confident in those assertions; do you have anything to back them up?

[TwilightGardener]

13. I smell Freepiness. Someone get the spray--time to fumigate.

[Jefferson23]

18. Welcome to DU. Your last statement, just where did you get that

information that would even suggest that scenario to be at all likely?

[Jennicut]

22. You voted for Obama? LOL.

See ya.

[bertman]

11. He DID screw up. Big time. Apparently it was President Obama who told Daschle to hang

tight. That says to me that he doesn't give a damn about Daschle's rampant use of his prestige and position as an ex-Senator to influence decisions by the government (which is lobbying even if you don't officially call him a lobbyist) AND his blatant disregard for paying his taxes (millionairre Senators usually get away with that shit don't they?). So, YES he did screw up. And worse, he continued the same politics-as-usual game that he promised to change.

I just hope that he has learned his lesson from this; although, between the people he has advising him (mostly big-time Washington beltway insiders and DLC types) and his decision to abandon the no-lobbyists memo HE put out, I have a feeling it's going to get worse before it gets better.

Sad to say.

Maybe now that he has learned that the honeymoon is over he will remember that if you do what you say you're going to do it gives the media nutcases less to nail you on. Not that they won't continue to make shit up, but the people can usually tell when that's happening--except, of course, the 25% of reich-wing idjits who believe anything Faux News says.

[gratuitous]

20. The IRS audited Daschle

I understand that the IRS audited Daschle's 2007 return, and didn't find anything amiss. Daschle voluntarily amended his tax return, paid the tax due, along with the penalty and interest (in reality, a net gain for the Treasury). I'm not generally a fan of "it's complicated" as a reason or an excuse, but there doesn't appear to have been any criminal intent on Daschle's part, and the rules for the various forms of compensation doled out by corporations are tricky, to say the least.

Of course, we're now playing by the nit-picking Republican rules, which make any mistake into a "the flag is falling" moment as the Republic totters on the abyss. The media, which love drama, are more than happy to showcase the histrionics of the likes of Laura Ingraham (syndicated talk show host and Fox New contributor, as Mr. Lauer introduced her this morning). Golly, how I've missed people getting the vapahs over minutiae, while swallowing whole the spectacle of a president appointing his personal lawyer as attorney general.

[bertman]

25. You're right, of course, gratuitous, but who among us, and particularly President Obama's

staff would NOT have anticipated the grilling and the magnifying glass treatment? The mantra was change and change is what everyone expects. But anyone who thought the corporate media would change and give any Democratic President the kidd glove treatment that Bush got is seriously deluded.

What I find amazing is, that knowing the depths of the probing that the reich wing does into every nook and cranny of Democratic nominees, the Obama transition team was not just as diligent and thorough in its vetting of cabinet-level appointees.

The Daschle mess was just the beginning. The hounds have been loosed and the hunt is on. Let's hope that the Obama administration is craftier than a fox and fleeter than a cheetah.

[spanone]

14. it's been going on since the inauguration and will quit when the republics win back power

[Bombero1956]

24. I turned it off during the interview

it was Laura Ingraham the lying shit.