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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:17 AM
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Poll question: Would You Boycott Rush Limbaugh's Sponsors?
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 11:29 AM by MannyGoldstein
CitizenPatriot and I are tossing around the idea of initiating a boycott against Limbaugh's Oxycontin-fueled hatefest. We figure that cutting station revenue is the best way to reduce the number of stations that carry his garbage.

If we provided a handy listing of sponsors, would you make a serious effort to boycott those companies?

(If you think this is a *really important* thing to try, then please recommend this thread!)

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:18 AM
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1. I already do. n/t
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:27 AM
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52. So do I, as much as I am aware.
I don't listen to that shite so I don't know who is advertising on his shows but I conscientiously don't buy any product I know is an advertising supporter or associated with him or with any other RW sleeze.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #52
59. I boycott Home Depot and Snapple, two long time sponsors
but I'm not aware of others. Is there a list somewhere?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #59
67. I don't think I've ever had a Snapple
They were one of Rush's very first sponsors. Can't even stand the sight of the stuff.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #52
61. I third this motion
I don't listen to him anyway.

I even stopped drinking snapple ages ago when I heard they were one of his sponsors.

Any sponsor list I've ever seen, they are businesses that I don't frequent anyway.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:19 AM
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2. youleft out the option for "Fuck Yeah". eom
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:22 AM
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3. If anyone has a list, I'd be glad to boycott them n/t
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:47 AM
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72. just get phone #s of LOCAL sponsors from his show
i just listen once in a while and call and ask something like do you agree with limbaugh, a guy who's been proven wrong about EVERYTHING... bush, iraq, the economy, global warming and when they say he's just an entertainer ask if they agreed with him when he said , sept 10, "OBAMA'S HEAD NEEDS TO ROLL".
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:23 AM
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4. Boycotting isn't enough.
Everyone boycotting Rush's sponsors should take the time to write a letter to those companies sponsoring this hate-spewing gasbag.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:20 PM
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36. Absolutley! and while you're writing, drop a line to you congressional reps
and insist Rush be taken off Armed Forces radio based on Hatch. Not supposed to have political propaganda on that station.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:24 AM
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5. Yes
If I had a list.
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:25 AM
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6. Is there already a list of his sponsers floating around somewhere
that is available so I don't have too look all of them up? I would like to start sending out E-mails this weekend.

Thanks
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #6
60. The most glaring ones are Home Depot, Oreck, and Blue Emu. nt
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:34 AM
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69. call complain boycott and picket LOCALLY too! it's easy and fun.
just listen once in a while until the headache starts, and then get the phone numbers/emails, etc. of the local sponsors and call and ask them if they agree with limbaugh when he says shit like "OBAMA'S HEAD NEEDS TO ROLL" sept 10, in his second hour.

he has 600 stations so there's one near everybody!
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:26 AM
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7. Absolutely! n/t
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:27 AM
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8. I voted "No" since there are no businesses in the lists I have seen that I would go to anyway
So boycotting them is really not an option. If there were businesses that I shopped at on the list, "HELL, YES!" would be my answer.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:27 AM
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9. I'm broke so I'm boycotting damn near everyone anyway
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. that is probably true for most of us...
;shrug:
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:27 AM
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10. I wrote to Geico and congratulated them on dropping him.
It won't help to boycott without letting them know they are on your list, will it? We need a list and links.

I never listen to him, so I don't have a clue who advertises on his show.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:28 AM
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11. No. I would have to LISTEN to him to even know who sponsors him, and I have better things to do
with my time.

Also, I'm not much of a consumer these days.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. We'd provide a list
I just updated the OP to emphasize that.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:58 AM
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22. I'd still likely be unaffected. I don't do a lot of "consumer" crap.
I go to a local supermarket that I've never heard advertised anywhere; I rarely buy stuff (I have everything I need, save food and stuff like buttwipe--the stuff on sale is fine), and if I do, I usually get it online and have it delivered, and about the only big purchase we'll be making in the months ahead is a dryer, because ours has just about crapped out after a quarter century plus of substantial use. We will buy the cheapest, sturdiest one, that we will inspect in several stores without buying, and very possibly buy from a military exchange, without being influenced by ads.

I just can't be bothered with that boycott stuff. I certainly am not going to boycott a product that dares to advertise on a show where someone is giving their opinion--even if their opinion is halfassed, idiotic and stupid. After all, this is a nation that touts our tolerance of Free Speech--even if the speech is moronic, uninformed and hateful.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #11
25. That's the beauty in all of this.
Obama wouldn't react to the media's reporting of an apology from Iran's leader, and we shouldn't need to rely on this same propaganda as well.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:31 AM
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14. The last list
looks like it was last updated in 2003.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/rushbusted.html
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. Rushie has his OWN page to contact his sponsors! Go there, if it
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:36 AM
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16. There's no list
There's no point in contacting them saying you're going to boycott them, if you don't know who they are in the first place.
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #15
21. Not me.
I'm not going to that vile, hateful site.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #15
43. Has he lost weight or is that an optical illusion?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:36 AM
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17. No -- because boycotts rarely work
and when they do, it's because there are some large groups participating.

A better tack is to find his local sponsors on whatever station you hear him on. Then, get about 10 or 20 local people to call those businesses and tell them they won't do business with them because of their sponsorship.

Believe me, when Happy Charlie, the car dealer, gets 10 phone calls in one day, he's going to be crapping in his pants. That will do more than trying to boycott a national company.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #17
62. Think Forida Orange Juice and Anita Briant and there are many more. nt
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:45 AM
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18. I voted yes, but in reality "other" would be more appropriate because I already do.
But you can't merely boycott. You have to also contact the advertisers and let them know WHY you will no longer patronize their business.
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Obi Juan Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:45 AM
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19. From what I've heard, it's mostly snake oil ads.
Though, you know what's funny... GM went to shit right after starting ad campaigns with Hannity and Limbaugh.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:47 AM
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20. Here is a list from topplebush.com from 2004 with some updates........
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:02 PM
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23. I already do .... fuck em all ..... Citizen Patriot's list HERE
'I got these off Daily Kos-- had one that was no longer a sponsor (it isn't on this list), and there may be others I haven't heard back from -- but this was the most comprehensive list I could find.

here's my letter to:



Hi. My name is ____________________. I recently found out that your company advertises on Rush Limbaugh's show.

In the past, I've found his show distasteful and regrettable, but after Mr. Limbaugh's recent remarks -- wherein he said he hoped our new President would fail -- well, my feelings have changed. Our country is at war. And facing an historic global economic crisis. And Mr. Limbaugh wants our leadership to fail?

I know you're running a business and likely won't change anything because of the comments of one customer, but it makes me feel better to let you know that I can no longer patronize your business. And I'm encouraging thousands of others -- via email and the internet -- to to do the same.

I think it's time decent people stand together as one and support our President as he tries to solve the nation's problems. We may not have all voted for him, but who in good conscience -- especially in these dire times -- could wish for him to fail, as Mr. Limbaugh has done?

The entire world is looking at America right now as a sign of hope and possibility. We must succeed. We must not shame ourselves in the international spotlight by showcasing bigotry, racism, or petty politics.

Thank you for your time.

And I look forward to when I can patronize your business again.

Sincerely,

_______________________

SPONSOR EMAIL ADDRESSES:
otherinfo@overstock.com
investor.relations@autozone.com
ctasher@geico.com
tward@geico.com
cfernandez@geico.com
jminshall@geico.com
contactmarketing@geico.com
investorrelations@selectcomfort.com
advertising@hotwire.com
info@lifequotes.com.au
Feedback@RegionalHelpWanted.com

OTHERS
Some sponsors can only be reached through their websites. Here are the links:
http://www.lumberliquidators.com/custserv/contactus.jsp
http://www.oreck.com/customer-service/contact-oreck.cfm ...
http://www.blue-emu.com/contact.html
http://www.eharmony.com/advertising/contact

MR. L:
And here are Mr. L.'s email address if you wanna cc him. That'd be great.
rhl@eibnet.com
rprivate@eibnet.com
rush@eibnet.com
70277.2502@compuserve.com
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #23
64. Some of these advertisers have also advertised on Air America
Rather than just boycott them for pushing Limbaugh, I would let them know that I will support them if they support liberal radio with the same amount of advertising money they pay to Limbaugh's shows.

Equal time.

I am not in the market for some of the products these advertisers offer. Having been married to the same person for 45 years, I probably will never need the services of e-harmony although someone dear to me might patronize them.

On the other hand, overstock.com? That's a very popular shopping stop especially with liberals.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #64
71. good idea
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:03 PM
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24. Absolutely!
Recommended.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:22 PM
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26. Besides national sponsors, is it possible to get a list of local sponsors?
would need some volunteers to get and post the info, but if local businesses were impacted, it would be another line of action. I can't imagine local businesses continuing to advertise on Limbaugh if it causes them to lose a quarter of their business.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. We'd Try To List Local Advertisers As Well
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 12:56 PM by MannyGoldstein
We'd probably need volunteers from each major city to listen daily. The show could be recorded and played back quickly to make this less awful for the brave volunteers.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. I have tried to listen and record local advertisers for both Limpy and the manity
but I can't do it. I can't stay with them. About 5 minutes and their condescending smirky assholishness comes through. And I want to pick up my radio and toss it. Volunteers would need fortitude.
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:39 PM
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29. Boycotting Limbaugh's sponsors is very easy to do
Or at least it would have been from my brief forays years ago listening to him for oppo research purposes.

Just avoid products from the following companies:

1. Damp Rid

2. Select Comfort

3. Have I forgotten any??
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:47 PM
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30. Only the gullible buy those things anyway
"Debt to wealth system?" Boy oh boy. I'll be rich!

How about paying ten dollars a month to a company that only does what a single letter to the credit reporting agencies can do?

I don't know what the scam is with the buying gold deal but it sounds really fishy to me.

If a company is looking for real idiots, Limbaugh is the best place to advertise.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Yup, they know their audience
The white, male, 18-54 year old, thick-as-a-post demographic.

It's pure GOLD.
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 01:37 PM
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32. I also boycott the sponsers of the local radio station that carries his show
nt
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #32
73. locally may be more effective- these stations are paul reveres in reverse
station management and ownership need to know the progressive communities within the public airwave they dominate are not happy with the one sided propaganda and hate directed solely at their representatives and causes.

imagine if those stations once in a while had people on who were informed about the problems, weren't afraid of 'nuance', and were looking for solutions other letting 'free market' forces decide.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:00 PM
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33. However noble or effective boycotts may be they still run the risk of hurting the little person,
the simple employee who is just trying to make ends meet, feed the kids, pay the mortgage. What do we say to them? "We have a noble cause and some innocent people need to get hurt in a noble cause". It's kind of like how Republicans want to punish those lazy welfare mothers, not caring that there are a lot of innocent children who would be hurt too. The Law of Unintended Consequences.

Sorry, I cannot recommend this thread in an attempt to get some RW blowhard off the air. I am not afraid of free speech not matter how much I may disagree with it or find it disgusting. In Rush's case I simply do not listen to him.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. That company can always adverstise or sponsor some other show
Yeah, I K and R'd this thread...

It's not like there are no other shows to advertise on.
Do you think that would be difficult?

For example, remember when Don Imus made those stupid remarks about the Rutgets women's basketball team? (the nappy -headed ***?) Several big ticket sponsors bailed immediately because they didn't want to be associated with sponsoring Imus.

If these companies were truly aware of diversity and inclusion, they would be taking their business elsewhere.

Free speech is one thing, but responsible use is another. And Rush is clearly irresponsible in his commentary. A responsible company would reconsider their sponsorship of Rush's language!
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. There is a difference between commentary and news.
Where I live there are Republicans who are clueless to the difference between an editorial and the news. I know there are Republicans who want to shut up or get Liberal voices off the air, but I don't want to be like them. So round and round we go--they boycott ours, we boycott theirs. Plus, if somebody put together an exhaustive list of all the companies that somebody believes to be boycotted for whatever reason there would be little left.

Free speech is free speech and if you start making exceptions where would it end?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:12 PM
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34. matter of fact,
i have to forego home depot for something i would normally get there. cause i already am boycotting the ones i know of.
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fchurch66 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:17 PM
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35. We should boycott corporations anyway.
Beyond Rush Limbaugh, we should boycott Corporate America. They need to feel the hammer.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #35
45. I'd love to but I don't see how to do that.
I like cable TV and internet. I like my cell phone. I like electricity. I like gasoline. So many things that we enjoy and need are provided only by big fat evil corporations. I don't see a way around it other than nationalizing these industries.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:28 PM
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38. I've been boycotting Limbaugh's sponsors from day one
Snapple will never pass my lips even though I have been informed they no longer advertise on his crappy show. My scathing letter may still be in Snapple files.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:31 PM
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39. The companies need to know why their sales are down. Just boycotting them is not enough.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:22 PM
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41. I am interested, make a list and keep it bumped.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 03:50 PM
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42. I probably already do, but if there were a list somewhere, I'd gladly
check it to make sure I got them all.
There should also be some sore of notice to his advertisers - so many people are boycotting the fat asshole and your company.

Make the air cleaner - dump Rush.

mark
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:40 AM
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44. Of course. Rush is apartheid for your ears.
Have you got the list?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:46 AM
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46. Why don't you just give us the fucking list, and not ask us to declare allegiance?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:12 AM
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51. Because I'm An Awful Person n/t
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ComtesseDeSpair Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:01 AM
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47. I always have.
I have never drank a drop of Snapple because he promoted it back in the early 90's.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:05 AM
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48. No. I don't care what he says or does.
Besides, it won't do any good.
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corndogg Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:43 AM
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49. This is a good idea but if you want to make it self supporting... do it right.
I've thought of a very similar idea that could probably be made into a self sustaining (economically) online database / website but I think you would be wise to:

A. Make it an independent and non-partisian entity that gathers the advertiser / sponsor info on any number of controversial media outlets. If you are going to politisize advertising then go whole hog and do it across the spectrum... why?... because I think that people will take you more seriously if you don't try to play favorites but just try to present the info. I also think that in doing this you will find a lot more puffery, false indignation, and hot air in the far right media regarding these media issues and that this will give a chance for everyone to put up or shut up... but people have to take you seriously first and not think you are trying to game the system in any way.

B. Have left wing a volunteer watch half an hour of Fox News... have right wing volunteers watch half an hour of CNN (if that's what they think is bad) and then send you a list of the commercials in all the major markets or cable tv (lets say there are 10 or such major markets) which tend to run more national advertising than the B and C market stuff like for instance Omaha, NE.

Local advertising is really a different kettle of fish... sometimes a local business doesn't have a lot of choices where to advertise... but large nation-wide companies have more choices and should be held accountable for where they are spending. You need to have a large number of users to keep this idea going and I think it's just as valid to have a list of advertisers from the New York Times to search through as a list from the Rush Limbaugh show. A user may want to patronize from one list and boycott from another. Don't concern yourself with who is using what information for what... just present as much info as you think people want to know about and hope that the people from all sides want to use the site to help keep it something that can be financially self sustainable.

C. Consider having some sort of alternative advertisers next to the lists that are generated such as an advertiser in the same catagory with the opposite "rating" or a "neutral rating" coming up next to an advertiser on Show X... and make sure the lists are searchable... before I buy a car I might want to go to your site... click a box next to 6 wingnut tv / radio shows and do a search to see how many times a certain car company advertises on said shows.

D. Try to tie in printable coupons or discounts / deals straight from your site so that with information in hand... people can make a choice right then and there to purchase X or print a coupon for X so that the info immediate and useful.

E. Think about the possibility of licensing these politisized "advertiser ratings" down the road to other web sites like a good housekeeping seal of approval or such.

If you see this as an opportunity to add transparency to the media landscape... sunshine to the shadows... and not just as a feel-good preaching to the choir thing and then YOU may end up the one in charge of this little guest house on the 4th estate instead of Murdoch and Co.

Good Luck!

Corndogg
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:58 AM
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53. Newshounds
They watch FOX so you don't have to.
http://www.newshounds.us/
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:16 AM
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50. Better yet, perhaps ...
we could promote Sarah Rush 2012 and humiliate their sponsors.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:59 AM
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54. I still haven't let Dunkin Donuts know I'm boycotting because of Rachel Ray/Michelle Malkin thing
(the "terrorist scarf" BS) ... have to write that letter one of these days. I need to let them know how disgusted I am with them ... and that I'll never set foot in their stores again (no matter how good their coffee is).
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Papa Boule Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:07 AM
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55. No.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:07 AM by Papa Boule
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." -- Thomas Paine

We must lead by example. Duplicating the right's efforts to repress debate is not where we need to go.

We don't need to do this any more than we need to turn the tables and use the domestic spying precedent to listen in on them.

By showing respect for their right to express their opinion -- no matter how heinous (short of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater) -- we reprove their ugly efforts to intimidate and deprive others of that right.

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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:17 AM
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56. Done :-)
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 10:37 AM by CitizenPatriot
Hey

Boy, the Boilster just begs to be boycotted, doesn't he?

I've thought a lot about the free speech part of this as well as the fairness of it. I am usually loathe to interfere in the process; however, there are times when people have to take a stand.

Each person determines their boundary.

Mine was crossed when he called for Obama's head to roll, played the Barck the Magic Negro song, and said he wanted our President to fail.

It seems to me that other programs which are not fit for the ears of children are on at night, and usually a subscriber service. We don't hear Bill Maher being played in the afternoon on the pubic airwaves.

Now, Bill doesn't offend me, but he does offend many people. They don't think it's decent to have him on network TV- he's gotta be on cable. Fine. Why is Rush any different?

Sure, he's entitled to free speech, and we are entitled to some level of decency on the public airwaves.

I find racism, bigotry and vaguely treasonous calls for the failure of the country to be indecent.

I was really disappointed in the reaction of most of the sponsors -- though kudos go to Geico.

Many of them feel this is merely someone I don't like, so too bad. They've missed the point.

Imus? How did that work? What were the standards? Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction?

THOSE things are indecent but hate speech and vaguely treasonous talk is cool? What lessons does our tolerance of this rhetoric teach our children? How do we say, this man, Rush, who is now the defacto head of the Republican party of this nation, can say these horrid things...but you can't? How do you explain that to a child?

The idea that we have to be fair and balanced is actually the dangerous rabbit hole, as it has been exploited to imply false equivalencies such as the comparison of CNN to Fox news above. As long as we allow these kinds of ideas to remain unchallenged, we will be run by the worst of our country and not the best (note: I realize the poster was simply giving an example and was not defending such a position -- but it happens to be an argument you hear a lot from the far right).

It can be proven and has been proven empirically that Fox news is a bad source of information - a spreader of deliberate MISinformatrion.

Leaving that kind of rhetoric unchallenged and unanswered is poisonous to this nation IMO.

I agree with the local sponsors point an upthread poster made. And as I said in the earlier thread, my goal was never to get him taken off the air, but rather to expose the point of view that he was a fringe person whose call for our President to fail was indecent and that we WERE paying attention. If this had happened when Bush was in office, the right would have covered the media with outrage. We must not let our tolerance and acceptance for those with whom we disagree lull us into not speaking up when the boundary has been crossed.

I expect more responsible choices from the companies I patronize. I don't want to fund any company who is helping to fund someone who wants this country to fail. It's really quite simple.

Those of you who agree, can also write to the FCC.

fccinfo@fcc.gov

Edited to add this link to the prior thread on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:21 AM
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57. K&R You bet I would
In a heartbeat
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:24 AM
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58. Yes - Rush espouses the failure of our Commander in Chief - I can't support & must work against that
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:58 AM
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75. he also said "OBAMA'S HEAD NEEDS TO ROLL" sept 10, second hour
x
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:32 AM
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63. Yup
The last two I actually knew about, "Ruth Cris steak house" (we had one in our area) and Snapple were easy to boycott. Won't drink Snapple to this day. I haven't kept up on who gives that money to that junkie pedophile to support his (waste of) air time, so maybe I'll should them up myself. If a list was provided, a big thank you.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:42 AM
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65. I do boycott the few i know about
Overstock, Geico, Lumber Liquidators, etc...

Is someone going to post a comprehensive list?
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:48 AM
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66. I have been thinking this for awhile. It is about time pressure was put on sponsors of Rush and Fox!
Public pressure campaigns always do some good, especially if future sponsors think do i want this kind of trouble.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:07 AM
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68. Do we want that loon off the air?
I voted yes,and I already sent the letters. After reading Rich's editorial in the Sunday Times http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/opinion/01rich.html and the New York Times on Nativism http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/opinion/01sun1.html?r... I am sort of having second thoughts. Having Rush as the defacto head of the Republican Party for awhile might be pretty good. It does one of two things. One possibility is that by having that nitwit wielding that much power in a weakened Republican party it completely marginalizes the Republicans to the point where, as Rich wrote, in 2012, the Republicans are looking at Alf Landon numbers. A second possibility is that the Republicans start returning to some semblance of normality ( I say some semblance even as I choke on it, because, personally even a moderate Republican is very far from where I am) as the loons gather off in their own little compound and the sane ones view Rush and his ilk as the crazy dysfunctional relatives that they really are, the normal ( if misguided) ones stop inviting them to the family reunions every four years ( Gee, Rush we're sure we invited you to the Convention. What's that? Sean and Bill didn't get an invite either. Dobson too? Can't imagine what happened. Yeah. It must be the post office's fault. Damned government. Well, gotta run).

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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:37 AM
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70. no but we can't continue to ignore the talk radio monopoly
the GOP coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition got us into this mess and it's doing the groundwork for all GOP obstruction.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:00 PM
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76. I couldn't agree more with your point.
And it was a problem that goes back to at least 1976 or so. Ever since Richard Vigurie first developed the strategy involving direct mail and used it to raise money for right wing causes and then later again with Talk Radio and finally with alliances with Clear Channel and Faux, the right-wing has always hammered the Democratic Party on that kind of repetitive, getting the message out outreach and has been far more niche market aware. The shift, though, is amazing. Just as the Dems were caught flat-footed in the past, this time it was the Republicans. Starting with Dean and in this past election with Obama blew the Republicans out the door with internet strategies. President Obama is concerned about his Blackberry; John McCain doesn't do e-mail.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:00 PM
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77. self-delete dupe.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 12:02 PM by tomg
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:55 AM
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74. No, for two reasons. I'm not personally willing to boycott a company or
an individual for speech, because I support free expression more strongly than most specific positions. I prefer to use boycotts to oppose actual actions by the entity being boycotted, Secondly, I don't like the idea of punishing a company for a reasonable business decision - a quest for customers to boost sales (which keeps people employed and makes profits for shareholders). I generally don't make business decisions based on political opinion (I'll shop at a Republican owned store if they have the best service, watch a rw entertainer if they provide a product I want, etc.)

I wouldn't support any effort to keep Limbaugh off the air (except for the off switch on my radio), because as repulsive as he is he has a right to spout what he does and his listeners have a right to consume it...
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:06 PM
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79. i see the objective as breaking up the monopoly that has made democracy
and bipartisanship practically impossible the last 20 years and is the single most dominant reason we're in this disaster.

let him and the other liars have their shows but a democracy cannot survive, as we may be seeing, the domination of our AM public airwaves by one party, using the coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition and political intimidation it allows, to lie us into global warming, wars, and economic disaster.
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Blue Dog Dominion Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:04 PM
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78. I wouldn't know. I always change the station if a commercial comes on.
I do recall the last time I was listening to commericial radio that the commericals were usually get rich quick schemes aimed at morons.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 05:53 PM
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80. a 100% yes
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bjdogg Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:34 PM
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81. Don't forget the stations
The sponsors are only half the problem. It is at least as important to boycott (loudly) the stations that carry Limbaugh. There is at least one major am station in each major market that carries him. Those media companies need to be held accountable for their actions.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:41 PM
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82. Welcome to DU bjdogg!
:hi:
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:09 PM
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83. I wish we could get into the inside of Arbitron...
then we'd win!

If we could show a massive switch-off between 12pm and 3pm ET on those stations that take him at that time (or the appropriate tape-delay time for those stations that take him later) then those stations will take notice, or rather their advertisers will, because they will want the book data from Arbitron too

It's no use boycotting an entire broadcast group, because Clear Channel, CBS Radio, Citadel, Cox, Emmis, Entercom - they all seem to have at least one station that airs him. (the one exception I noted was Salem Communications - but they're either Christian or very right wing talk, O'Leilly, Weiner, Insanity, etc) If you have decent local radio left, listen to them... and your NPR station too (and don't forget to donate). Your Progressive Talk station might actually be owned by one of the majors, so you'll have to boycott them too. Now might be a good time to subscribe to Sirius/XM - radios can be found on Ebay cheap enough - I recommend XM over Sirius right now for progressive programming though that could change.

You can boycott advertisers, you can tell them why too.

How about protesting individual stations, or better yet, a station that he's actually broadcasting from? I know this is hard cos he does broadcast from "undisclosed locations" but there were times he would tour various stations and broadcast from their facilities.

Mark.
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mjharmon Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:35 PM
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84. Scottrade does NOT advertise with Rush Limbaugh
I have an account with Scottrade so I contacted them regarding their sponsorship of Rush Limbaugh and received a response within one hour. Let's make sure to verify our information before organizations who have "seen the light" are collateral damage.

My email to Scottrade
To: support@scottrade.com
Subject: Rush Limbaugh?

Good day, can you confirm whether or not Scottrade is still a
sponsor/advertiser on the Rush Limbaugh show? It recently came to my
attention that Scottrade has been a sponsor of his hateful and
unpatriotic show the past and I am very concerned.

By sponsoring his show, you signify that Scottrade hopes the new
leadership in the United States fails. If your support of Rush stands, I
will need to take my business to an organization that does not support
bigotry, racism, and petty politics.

Thank you for your time, please let me know where Scottrade stands on
sponsoring Rush Limbaugh so I may make my decision.

Scottrade's Response

Scottrade is not an advertiser on Rush Limbaughs program and has not
advertised on the program in more than six years. There are several Web
sites that list us an advertiser, but that is inaccurate and outdated
information. Please let us know where you found this information so that
we attempt to get it corrected.

Shawn Viau
National Service Center
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