Any believers in the law of attraction or synchronicity here?

[county worker]

I am a great believer in the law of attraction and synchronicity. I have so many good experiences using the law of attraction and synchrohicity in my life that it would take all day to relate them.

Which leads me to think that if we all wanted a good economy with full employment all we would have to have to do collectively is ask for it and believe it is coming.

Now those who feel victimized by the right during the last eight years see nothing but doom and gloom in their lives and that's just what they are attracting to themselves.

So as a public service announcement I present the following URLs

http://www.thesecret.tv/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

To those who feel I am full of shit, that's OK by me. I don't have to live your life you do.

[Fovea]

1. Chant the spell, take the aspirin

As a Wiccan priest of forty some years. I do not endorse faith based solutions.

Magick is a tool in your shop, like prayer. But we are given the ability to solve most of our own problems.
And the expectation from our creators is that we use those abilities and tools to perfect creation.

So far we are failing wretchedly. More sweat is needed. Not more smoke.
Much harm comes from inaction. However, nothing is harmed by faith.

[Mari333]

2. yes. n/t

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[MsTryska]

4. People might clown on you,

but I create my reality every day.

I wish for things, I dream of things, most importantly, i do the things that will get me to the goals I wish to acheive.

I do have to admit I feel lucky, as the most hare-brained fantasies, often quite randomly become reality for me. Not quite sure how that happens, but it does.

[county worker]

5. good to hear from someone else with experiences like mine thanks

[MsTryska]

9. no worries.

i can't attribute it to the Secret or anything liek that, as I've never read it. Just how my life has always been. Sometimes for worse, sometimes for better. Either way, I'm thankful.

[Ron Green]

6. Do the right things, work hard, and detach from the outcome . . .

. . . and I think good things will come your way.

[EnviroBat]

7. I've seen people make themselves insane from this stuff.

I believe there is nothing wrong with the power of positive thinking, but to take it to extremes can be dangerous for people with a fragile mentality to begin with.

There's also the aspect of "blaming the victim" with this junk. It's like saying that people with cancer wanted cancer because they attracted it into their life through their thoughts. To this I say bullshit. We are humans, and we all experience negative thoughts and emotions. According to this "Secret" BS, we should all be mindless robots living in a world of puppies, rainbows, and gumdrop sunshine. So every time I experience a negative thought or emotion, I should drive myself to the verge of Schizophrenia by immediately trying to think positive, lest I attract something negative into my life. Bullshit. They are merely attempting to correlate every experience in your life with your thoughts of experience as if it is manifested by those thoughts. I find it a very arrogant way of thinking that we are capable of controlling anything the universe holds in store for us, for we truly aren't.

My Holistic Coach always said it best. "Think of yourself as liken to a cork floating down a river..." Once you learn to let go of trying to control the future, and let go of the past. You'll be a much happier person living in the now.

So, no. I don't believe in "law of attraction". Seems odd to call something a law when it's never been proven in the first place. When they can start calling it by it's true name "The Theory of Attraction", then maybe I'll pay more attention to it.

[PowerToThePeople]

8. Faith based economics? n/t

[On the Road]

10. Your Theory is Undeniable

...if we all wanted a good economy with full employment all we would have to have to do collectively is ask for it and believe it is coming.

If everyone in an economy has confidence in the future and acts accordingly, businesses will invest, consumers will spend, and prosperity will follow. GLS Shackle wrote extensively about expectations and economic performance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._L._S._Shackle
http://cepa.newschool.edu/het/profiles/shackle.htm

More ominously, so did George Gilder in Wealth & Poverty, although less knowledgably.

The trick is to create those expectations. Regardless of your wealth or income, economic fear has seeped into all parts of society. Who knows if Obama will be able to change the zeitgeist? But he's probably the best person we could have in that role.

[Odin2005]

11. 100% utter BS.

[Bill McBlueState]

12. you should define your terms

Are the law of attraction and synchronicity two different things, or are they two names for the same thing?

[county worker]

13. Different things

Below are wikipedia definitions.

My thinking is this: When using the law of attraction by asking for and believing that you will get what you ask for, you cannot see how things could possibly be arranged so that you get what you ask for. But through synchronicity events come together to make it happen.

Here is a personal example. We use to live in the boonies. My wife was getting tired of living there and wanted us to move to the city. Both of our jobs could have ended at any time because the employers we worked for were having financial difficulties and were laying people off. We felt that if we didn't get new jobs we could both be unemployed at the same time and lose everything we had. She was asked by her old boss to come back to work and so she got her old job back in the place where we previously lived and wanted to move back to. For me it meant quitting the job I had and finding a new one in the city we wanted to move to and moving there myself. I had no idea how that was going to happen because jobs were getting scare but I asked for and believed I would get a good position there. My wife had already moved and was living with her mother.

I sent resumes to jobs I qualified for and got an interview with the auditor of the county. I was not hired by him. A couple of months later I got a phone call from the manager of another department in the county and interviewing with her, I got hired. What happened is that a position exactly like I applied for with the auditor opened up in her department. She got my resume from the auditor and called me. I did not apply to her, she called me.

The law of attraction was my asking for and receiving the job. The synchronicity was the job opening up in the other department and the department head getting my resume and calling me. Also I beleive synchronicity was involved in my wife getting her old job back.

I now make $12,000 more that I did on my previous job. Our lives have improved immensely. My wife's position in the her company improved too and now together we make more money that we ever have since we've been together.

Events like that have been happening to me for more that 25 years.

Definitions:

Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events which are causally unrelated occurring together in a supposedly meaningful manner. In order to count as synchronicity, the events should be unlikely to occur together by chance.

The phrase Law of Attraction, although used widely by New Thought writers, has a variety of definitions. Turn-of-the-century references conceptualized the law of attraction as relating to physical structure and to how matter develops. <1> A more modern consensus among New Thought thinkers is that the Law of Attraction says people's thoughts (both conscious and unconscious) dictate the reality of their lives, whether or not they're aware of it. Essentially "if you really want something and truly believe it's possible, you'll get it", but putting a lot of attention and thought onto something you don't want means you'll probably get that too.

[W_HAMILTON]

14. What are they all about?

I read a little bit of the wikipedia article you listed, but since you made a post about it, I figured you would want to talk about it anyway :) What are some of the examples you are referring to?

It seems like it is...what do you call it...positive self-realization or something? I don't know what the correct term is.

[county worker]

15. see my post #13

[county worker]

16. For me, I started believing in it about 25 years ago that I can recall.

I got an idea from AA about a god box. One of the steps in AA involves turning problems over to your higher power. The god box is a box that is closed up on all sides. A slot is cut in the top and when you want to turn a problem or want something from your higher power you write it on a piece of paper and put it in the god box. It is a symbol of your turning over a problem or wish.

I have been doing that for years and usually always getting what I asked for. Even with out the god box it has worked for me. I started to read about the law of attraction and positive thinking and that's what I like to attribute it to.

Just a week ago I heard "The Secret" talked about on KPFK radio. I looked up their website and they talk about what I had be believing in for 25 years.

One time my wife and I were driving to Lake Tahoe. I saw a semi truck with "Where ever you go there you are" written on the air foiler of the truck. I didn't pay much attention to it but later when we got to the lake we went to a book store to pick up some books to read while we camped at the lake. I like new age books so I went to that section. There was a book titled "Where ever you go there you are!" It is about mindfulness meditation. That book has made a great impression on me and my life. I think it was syncronicity that brought it to me.