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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:05 PM
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Mike, you must see this.



PBS: NSA could have prevented 9/11 hijackings
Filed by Muriel Kane
rawstory.com

The super-secretive National Security Agency has been quietly monitoring, decrypting, and interpreting foreign communications for decades, starting long before it came under criticism as a result of recent revelations about the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping program. Now a forthcoming PBS documentary asks whether the NSA could have prevented 9/11 if it had been more willing to share its data with other agencies.

Author James Bamford looked into the performance of the NSA in his 2008 book, The Shadow Factory, and found that it had been closely monitoring the 9/11 hijackers as they moved freely around the United States and communicated with Osama bin Laden's operations center in Yemen. The NSA had even tapped bin Laden's satellite phone, starting in 1996.

"The NSA never alerted any other agency that the terrorists were in the United States and moving across the country towards Washington," Bamford told PBS.

PBS also found that "the 9/11 Commission never looked closely into NSA's role in the broad intelligence breakdown behind the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. If they had, they would have understood the full extent to which the agency had major pieces of the puzzle but never put them together or disclosed their entire body of knowledge to the CIA and the FBI."

In a review of Bamford's book, former senator and 9/11 Commission member Bob Kerrey wrote, "As the 9/11 Commission later established, U.S. intelligence officials knew that al-Qaeda had held a planning meeting in Malaysia, found out the names of two recruits who had been present -- Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi -- and suspected that one and maybe both of them had flown to Los Angeles. Bamford reveals that the NSA had been eavesdropping for months on their calls to Yemen, yet the agency 'never made the effort' to trace where the calls originated. 'At any time, had the FBI been notified, they could have found Hazmi in a matter of seconds.'"

Former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer told PBS, "None of this information that we're speaking about this evening's in the 9/11 Commission report. They simply ignored all of it."

Not only was then-Director Michael Hayden never held accountable for the NSA's alleged failure, but he went on to oversee the Bush administration's vast expansion of domestic surveillance. In 2006, he was appointed as director of the CIA.

When asked whether the NSA's warrantless eavesdropping violated FISA law, Hayden insisted, "I have an order whose lawfulness has been attested to by the attorney general, an order whose lawfulness has been attested to by NSA lawyers who do this for a living. No, we're not violating the law. ... I'm asserting that NSA is doing its job."

NSA's power to eavesdrop on ordinary Americans has vastly increased since 2001, and the government's secret watch list now includes over a half a million names. PBS raises serious questions about whether important clues are still being missed simply as a result of the sheer volume of data being collected.

The Spy Factory will be shown over most PBS stations on February 3, 2009 at 8 pm.


(To see the video preview, go here)
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/PBS_NSA_tracked_911_hijac...


- MDM


:hug: :loveya: :grouphug: :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:05 PM
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1. Hi cal04 and my fellow truthseekers!
:hi: :grouphug:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:07 PM
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7. hi smokey nj You're 1st
:hug: 's to Edie and the NJBoyz

:hug: :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:11 PM
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18. Hey cal04!
:hi: :hug:
How are you and the puppies doing tonight? Please give them big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ boyz! How sloppy was it in your neck of the woods today? My feet were soaked before I got to the train. Did you get a snow day?
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:14 PM
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21. No snow day, we're as tough as Chicago
when I went out at 6:30 this morning there wasn't that much snow but the roads weren't cleaned yet so it was slow driving to work
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:06 PM
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2. Hi cal04 & Truthseekers!
:hi: :toast: :fistbump:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:06 PM
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4. Hi spiderpig
:fistbump:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:07 PM
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6. Hi spiderpig!
:hi: :hug:
How are you, Mr. spiderpig and the fuzzies doing tonight? Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs for everyone from me, Edie and the NJ Boyz!
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:09 PM
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14. Hi smokey & crew!
:hi: :hug:
My sister in Ohio says they're having an awful blizzard. Are you expecting to get hit?
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:13 PM
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19. Oh God, I hope not! I haven't seen anything in the extended forcasts and I hope it stays that way.
Starting Friday, I have a twice a day cat assignment and I have to drive to it (one of my sisters is letting me use her car).
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:08 PM
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9. hi spiderpig
:hug: :hi:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:35 PM
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51. I'm sorry spiderpig, you'll always be catnapper to me...
just hope that I'll remember your name change. :bounce: And Mz Nov, and alyce douglas has changed....too much to remember, so little time, lol.

Hoping that you're well. :hi: :hug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:35 PM
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126. You can still call me catnapper. I liked the name too.
Skinner just made us an offer I couldn't refuse!:evil:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:06 PM
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3. Greetings From Winter Wonderland Kentucky
Hi cal04. :hi: Hello Everyone. :hi:

:grouphug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:08 PM
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10. Hi L_D! I was just looking at pix of ice in KY on this link
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:08 PM
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11. hi Liberal_Dog
:hug: :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:09 PM
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13. Hi Liberal_Dog!
:hi: :hug:
Did you do a lot of slippin' and slidin' today? Our snow changed to rain, so I was walking around in slush all day. It was like our trip to Montreal, but with dogs.
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:11 PM
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17. Hi smokey nj
:fistbump:

I stayed indoors today. Fortunately the power did not go out here.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:19 PM
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23. That's good. I'm glad we didn't have ice, I'd probably be nursing a broken leg right now.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:39 PM
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58. Hey Liberal_Dog!
Hoping that all is well with you. Mr. lefty was supposed to be in Paintsville, KY this week. Is it iced in? :hi: :hug: :fistbump:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:07 PM
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5. Hi cal04, smokey, spider, Liberal and everybody!

:hi: :hug: :grouphug:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:08 PM
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8. Hi MzNov
:fistbump:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:08 PM
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12. hi MzNov
:hug: :hi:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:36 PM
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53. Hi cal04!

:hi: :hug:

Hope all is well with you. :toast:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:10 PM
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15. Hi MzNov!
:hi: :hug:
How are you and the fuzz crew doing tonight? Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ Boyz!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:24 PM
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30. Hi smokey nj !

:hi: :hug:

We're doing OK. How are you and the NJ fuzz crew? Lots of scratches and :hug:s from the CA cuzzes! :loveya: Hi Edie and Boyz!

The fence is getting fixed. YaaaaaaY :bounce:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:25 PM
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34. We're all doing ok, thanks!
Edie and the boyz thank their cuzzes for the scratches and :hug:s! :woohoo: I'm so glad your landlord is finally getting around to it! Yay for the kitties having outdoor time!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:30 PM
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39. They are getting pale

:rofl:

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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:32 PM
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46. Awwwwwwwwwww!
Hi Sesame! :hi: :loveya:
Sesame looks like she had one too many Cosmos in that picture! :rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:35 PM
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50. I know I think I woke her up from her afternoon nap in the sun.

I think she really misses that! I had to throw away that particular cat tree, it was getting all moldy from the rain etc. In this new place I have a very small patio area so I will put one of my smaller kitty condos out there for her. I hope the rat dogs don't scare them since they yap at every moving thing. I hate them.

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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:39 PM
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57. Most rat dogs are very, very annoying. I'm glad I don't have to walk any of them.
I do like Yorkies though. My niece and her boyfriend have a Yorkie, Missy and she's just the sweetest little thing! Matthew loves her too and he likes to crawl around chasing her. Missy's very good and patient with him.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:40 PM
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59. Yorkies are great, I really like them too.

chuwawas are just annoyances, the little yapping assholes.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:52 PM
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76. Sesame and the gang could probably kick the crap out of those little yappy things!
:rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:58 PM
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83. you should have seen Sesame go after that big cat who used to come
into my other yard! It was hilarious. She's really serious about getting intruders out of her yard. Unfortunately, big cat just rolled his eyes and said you and who else Nermal?

Scarlett and Simon were growling at the rat dogs when they were pee'ing on my plants. They would make little furry snausages out of them!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:01 PM
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87. Good for Scarlett and Simon!
I don't think Chihuahuas should even be considered dogs, they're more like rodents.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:03 PM
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90. I agree!

:toast: :pals:

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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:11 PM
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16. Hi MzNov - um, should we tell the others about our CA weather?
:hide:

:hi: :hug: :toast:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:13 PM
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20. That depends, do you want to be beaten with a big stick?
:rofl:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:19 PM
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22. Only if you're wearing black leather...
:rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:25 PM
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I've been trying to avoid broadcasting the CA weather lately.


I feel bad for you guys. I really do. :evilgrin:

We'll get ours soon enough. It's really cold at night tho. in the 30's!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:29 PM
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38. It's actually not that cold here right now, that's what made today not so bad.
It was in the upper 30s today. The problem was the slush puddles that formed on street corners, there's no way to avoid them when you're trying to cross the street. I really need to get a pair of good shoes for the snow. I wore sneakers today.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:33 PM
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47. how about those big lime green or other neat color rubber boots?

I got some a few years ago when it rained so much and I had to slosh thru the yard. Wore them to work too :rofl:

I remember all of that slush and ice, hopefully will get to enjoy it again soon. gaaack.

:toast:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:35 PM
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52. Those sound perfect for me, were they comfy?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:38 PM
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55. yes, you can just wear some socks
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 08:38 PM by MzNov
and happily slosh your way all over town. I stepped in every puddle I could find. I'm not very mature. :rofl:

http://www.footgalaxy.com/B000XLX2BU/M/B000XLX2BU.htm

I have lime green ones. :-)
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:43 PM
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66. Thanks for the link, MzNov, they're adorable! I think I will order myself a pair!
When I was in the 1st grade, my cousin and I would go to my sister's house for lunch. One day it was raining really hard and we were soaked when we got to her house. She called my mother at work and told her she was keeping us home in the afternoon so we wouldn't get sick. From then on, whenever it rained, even if it was just a drizzle, my cousin and I stepped in ever puddle we could hoping she wouldn't make us go back to school. :rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:45 PM
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68. there is just something about puddles...

especially in sneakers. :rofl:

You will love them, I promise! I can't wait till you get them and report back.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:07 PM
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95. I just placed the order!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #95
97. congrats! can't wait till you get them.

fun and practical. :bounce:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:11 PM
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102. By ordering them, I probably guaranteed that the last snow storm we have will
happen the day before they get here. :rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #102
104. .... :-)

that's usually how it goes.....
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #38
60. A nice pair of Wellies? If they're good enough for the Queen...
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:42 PM
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63. I love those!

my next pair will be the patterned variety
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:48 PM
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72. oh those are cool looking.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:53 PM
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77. Those are cool! But if I got them would I have to wear frilly hats, white gloves and wave like the
Queen?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #77
80. you could probably skip the frilly hat

:rofl:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:03 PM
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91. Can you imagine me walking the dogs in my grubby clothes wearing a Queen hat?
:rofl:
I already look like a basket case when I walk the pooches, but I think THAT would get the guys with the butterfly nets chasing me!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:06 PM
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94. get somebody to take a picture first!
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 09:06 PM by MzNov
:rofl: I want a pic!

check out these babies! wow!

http://stores.channeladvisor.com/makemechic/items/item....
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:07 PM
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96. Those are gorgeous!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:09 PM
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98. I just might have to have those next pay day.

they are so me.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:09 PM
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100. oh, they are out of stock. :-(
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:10 PM
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101. I almost cancelled my order until I saw that.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:13 PM
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103. check out the lady bugs
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:16 PM
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107. Those are so cute!
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #91
114. Meatballs would protect you.
I'm home now, enjoying a glass of wine with Mr. pig. :toast:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:26 PM
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116. next time I see you guys, I'm telling him what you called him

!!!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:27 PM
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117. Have a glass for me!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. Hey spiderpig

isn't it fabulous? Are we ever going to get any more rain tho? It's scarey.

:hi: :hug:

How are the fuzzywuzzies?

:hug:s from the Fremont gang. My fence is being replaced today. Will be done tomorrow. Then I can get the cat net up and let the meatloaves go outside!

:bounce:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. Guess we'll have to find ways to make water rationing more fun.
Personally, I'll volunteer to shower with George Clooney.

Yay on the fence! Is little Sesame adapting better?

I haven't seen my speedbumps since this morning. Still at work.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:27 PM
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36. Sesame doing OK. Pumpkin easing her way back to the LV Rm
she likes to perch on the cable tv box. It's warm up there!

Raisin has a new nail trimmer lady, I found her this week. She's fabulous!!! No bleeding paws for Our Gang ever again.

You showering with Clooney, I'll take Johnny Depp. :embarassed:

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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:21 PM
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27. Smog?? Widfires?? Earthquakes???
Yeah. Tell us all about it!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:22 PM
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29. I'll take fog for $50 please Liberal_Dog.

:fistbump:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. The glassy-winged sharpshooters (recent pest) are feeling left out of your list!
They're the bugs that were blighting the vineyards - a true catastrophe for MzNov and moi! :scared:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:49 PM
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73. I wondered why my wine tasted funny.....

:toast:
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:19 PM
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24. Hello Truthseekers!!! Limbaugh/Palin '12
A force you can reckon with! :crazy: :silly: :silly: :rofl: :crazy:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:20 PM
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25. Hi MikeNearMcChord!
:hi: :hug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:22 PM
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28. A match made in Hades...hi MikeNearMcChord!
:hi: :toast: :fistbump:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:24 PM
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31. hi MikeNearMcChord
:hug: :hi:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:25 PM
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33. hey ralps and crook!!!
you know what I hate republicans they really need to be kicked to the curb. oops just a little rant.


How is everyone tonite? :hi: :hug:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:26 PM
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35. Hi bdamomma
:fistbump:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:37 PM
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54. hi liberal dog!!
:fistbump:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:30 PM
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40. hi bdamomma
:hug: :hi:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:39 PM
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56. hi cal04!!!
how are you doin? :hi: :hug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:30 PM
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42. Evenin' momma!
Are you all hunkered down and warm with Chloe? :hi: :hug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:43 PM
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64. evening spiderpig!!!
chloe is hunkered down on the couch. Are you doing ok? :hi: :hug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:29 PM
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118. I'm OKer now that I'm home with the kitties and Mr. pig.
:toast:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #33
43. Hi bdamomma!
:hi: :hug:
How are you and my gorgeous fuzzy pal Chloe doing tonight? Please give her big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ boyz!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:45 PM
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69. Hi smokey!!!
chloe is on the couch sleeping away,curled up. How is edie and nj boyz, keep warm smokey!! :hug: :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:09 PM
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99. Edie and the boyz are doing great, thanks!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:41 PM
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61. you're way too easy on the rat bastards bdamomma

:hi: :hug:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:54 PM
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79.  Hi MzNov I was just toning it down, I had such a headache this afternoon
about what they were saying about Holder and not prosecuting bushco,which turned into a BS story.

and the repigs every single one of them voting against the stimulus bill, what arrogant and ignorant jerks. I do not trust them at all, Obama needs to get on with his plan, because the repigs just think about their rich friends and damn the needs of the American people. :hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:01 PM
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85. and the Dems just let it all pass, nothing has changed. I hate them all.

but I do think Obama will give the Senators a try, then at some point and to some degree, beat them at their own little petty asshole games. Wishful thinking argh.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:30 PM
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41. Good evening cal04, Truthseekers!!
Hoping that everyone is warm and well! :hi: :hug:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:31 PM
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44. hi tnlefty
:hug: :hi:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:47 PM
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71. Hey cal04!!
Hoping that you are well, and warm, and missing the ice. :hug: :hug:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:21 PM
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112. hey tnlefty
all is well here, hoping that all is well there
no ice for us, thank goodness. Just a mess of snow

:hug:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:31 PM
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45. Hi tnlefty
:fistbump:

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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:33 PM
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48. Hi tnlefty!
:hi: :hug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:51 PM
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75. Hey smokey nj!! I'm almost afraid to ask if you got snow/ice...
I despise ice storms, snow is bad enough here, but ice is awful. :hi: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:04 PM
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92. We got snow and then it rained so we had slush on the ground.
I think my feet have finally dried though.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #41
49. Hi tnlefty! Been a long time since we chatted.
You've been checking out before I get home. :hi: :hug: :toast: :bounce:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:45 PM
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70. Ahem, (in my best Simpson's movie voice) spiderpig, spiderpig, does
whatever a spider pig does. :bounce: Here, have a glass of Barefoot Pinot Grigio on me. :toast:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #70
123. Why thank you for the serenade and the suggestion, tnlefty!
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 09:36 PM by spiderpig
Don't mind if I do! :toast: :hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #41
65. Hi tnlefty!

:hi: :hug:

all is well here.

How are things at your end of the swamp? :toast:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:59 PM
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84. Hey MzNov!!
I think that I got your new name correct, lol! We're fine here, although it's getting colder on the heels of 53 earlier. No ice here as opposed to other parts of the state and neighboring states, but it rained today and we'll dip back below freezing overnight. :hi: :hug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #41
82. hi tnlefty!!!
:hi: :hug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:02 PM
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88. Hey alyce, bdamomma!
These name changes are gonna kill me, lol!!

Hoping that you're well. :hi: :hug: Oh, if I seem to overlook you, gouge me...it's the name change. :toast:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #88
125. that's ok, you will get used to it.
you can call me by either!!!
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:41 PM
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62. @%&$ "The Press"!!!!!!
:hi: cal04
:hi: Everyone

"The Press" as currently constituted is a BLIGHT on democracy and the Country. ASSHOLES!!!!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #62
67. hi gumby
:hug: :hi:
press, we have a press, I thought they were just a bunch of monkeys in suits
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #62
74. Hi gumby!
:hi: :hug:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:54 PM
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78. Hi!
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 09:01 PM by Maat
Beloved Daughter (12), as well as Dad and I, are hanging in there and doing fine, as well as Demon Dexter (we love to knock things off the counter, and knock over plastic glasses of water, because of the neat boom it makes), Coco, Snowball and Dot (all of these kitties are tres pampered).

I hope everyone is doing well.

Ah, I love me some 'Malloy' therapy.

P.S. We are suffering out here in Southern California also - HeeHee - it was a glorious 72 degrees today, with beautiful, blue skies.

:evilgrin:

Oops, I wrote that before I saw what other California Truthseekers said. HeeHee.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:02 PM
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89. hi Maat
:hug: :hi:

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:33 PM
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124. Hi, Cal04!
:hug: :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:06 PM
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93. Hi Maat!
:hi: :hug:

Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs for Dexter, Coco, Snowball, Dot, and Suger the Mouse (whose name I remember now!) from me, Edie and the NJ boyz!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:33 PM
Original message
Thanks for the ear scratches and tummy rubs!
Hugs and kisses to Edie and the NJ Boyz, and their humans!

:hug: :hi:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #78
106. Hi Maat!

:hi: :hug:

:toast:

Yes, this CA weather is terrible and I hope it rains and floods soon. :evilgrin:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:32 PM
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120. Me, too!
:evilgrin:

:hug: :hi:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:55 PM
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81. I just want to move to Belize
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:01 PM
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86. ...................
:hug:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:15 PM
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105. Hi TruthSeekers
:hi:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:16 PM
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108. hi proud patriot
:hug: :hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:17 PM
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109. Hi proud patriot!
:hi: :hug:
I forgot to ask, how was the get together?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:18 PM
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110. Hi proud patriot !

:hi: :hug:

catnap.... I mean spiderpig said your event was really great. I hope to get to your next one!

:bounce:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:36 PM
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129. hi proud patriot!!!
:hi: :hug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:19 PM
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111. I missed that the piece of human waste, John Yoo, is teaching
at Berkeley. Filthy, less than human, *&^^%$$%%%&*(((&&&^^%%$$$, shouldn't be teaching anything, anywhere, AFAIC. :puke:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:21 PM
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113. yes, at Berkeley! How things have changed. Every once in a while
you would see protestors against him, but no one cares any more..... it's really sad
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:24 PM
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115. ..no offense to porcine farm residents

:rofl:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:31 PM
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119. Good night truthseekers, have a great one tomorrow!
:grouphug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:33 PM
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122. nite smokey girl!!
keep warm and keep it lit.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:35 PM
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127. good night smokey nj
have a great day tomorrow

:hug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:32 PM
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121. Keep it lit Truthseekers!!
I'm off to watch the last of the Olberman replay! Take care everyone. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:36 PM
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128. good night tnlefty
have a great day tomorrow

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:38 PM
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130. nite tnlefty!
have a good one tomorrow. :hug:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:46 PM
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131. rec # 6. But seriously........What's your point?? nm
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:47 PM
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132. Hi cal04! Hi Everyone! Crook & I are doing good, How are you all doing?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:48 PM
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133. Hi ralps
:fistbump:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:51 PM
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134. Hi Liberal_Dog!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:52 PM
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135. hi ralps
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 09:52 PM by cal04
:hug: 's to crook
how's the weather in Wisconsin

:hug: :hi:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:05 PM
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138. It's about 15 degrees outside! Brrrrrrrrrr but at least it isn't snowing!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :scared:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:07 PM
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140. Goodnight, Ralps!
It's only 8 PM here; I think I'll take a nice bath.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:09 PM
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141. stay warm
we're supposed to get snow again on Friday. I don't mind the snow, but the roads are horrendous

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:58 PM
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136. nite you guys have a good day tomorrow, keep it lit!!
and keep warm.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:00 PM
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137. good night bdamomma
:hug:
have a great day tomorrow
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:05 PM
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139. Good Night bdamomma, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:11 PM
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142. Good night, Truthseekers!
Keep it lit!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:12 PM
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143. good night Maat
have a great day tomorrow

:hug:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:54 PM
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147. You, too!
:hug:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:25 PM
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144. another freeper bites the dust
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 10:26 PM by cal04
what an idiot
what brain?
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:48 PM
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145. I don't think KPHX has Mike on anymore. Looks like NovaM
moved to KNUV 1190AM.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:53 PM
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146. hi sofedupwithbush
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:54 PM
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148. Hi sofedupwithbush, Yes it did
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:57 PM
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149. good night everyone
have a great day tomorrow

:hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:57 PM
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150. Good Night Everyone, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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