Is Edwards going to try to push for a new IWR? (Iran War Resolution?)

[ecstatic]

He's no longer in the Senate so he can't personally sponsor it this time, like he did with the first IWR that he is now apologizing for...

Um... what was that saying?? Fool me once... shame on...umm err... me? you?

This is beyond the pale--he is doing *'s dirty work YET AGAIN.

--- A Truly disgusted former supporter

[Little Wing]

1. Okay

Explain to an idiot like me how pushing for this is doing *'s dirty work

[iconoclastic cat]

2. Links, evidence, or just hearsay and complaining? nt

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Which Version Do You Want?

Sane version: Edwards: 'Iran must know world won't back down'

Batshit crazy version: Bilderberger, Prominent Homosexual, John Edwards: ‘Iran must know world won’t back down’

[PATRICK]

17. The Rawstory version

is certainly bad enough. The ME is moving to MAD which would checkmate Israel's sole trump card. Lebanon shows the vulnerability of any traditional military solution, the futility of aggression in the dominatly Muslim region. Instead of singling out Iran this should be seen as a regional problem. Edwardss is playing too much to the very position that makes Bush aggression possible or the suckering entrapment of future presidents a vivid danger. Which means that mildly "bettering" our executive shows not enough foresight, comprehensiveness or, to put it mildly, personal lessons learned. Unfortunately I think most candidates are right where he is without staking out themselves in the middle of the trap.

If the Israelis HAD believed these "reasonable" measures they wouldn't be poised with Bushco on the edge of the abyss now. As a pullback to inaedquate policies based on "trust" some better president can restart doing things better it is certainly not heartening. It does nothing to moderate the panic and deliberate propaganda moving Israel to a done deal. Talking about ANY grouping of alliances ort actors or complex plans proves on its face how unlikely and inadequate they must be. A global solution with guarantees to religious, national and ethnic groups needs to be brought to bear.

War is NOT an option, merely a failure or an insane exploitation the world cannot permit if the world itself is to survive. Nor is there a need much less an imminent one to even consider such an option, the mere threat of which, in mankind's tragic history, impels even both unwilling parties into the mess.

As usual, we can only be sure Kucinich is closer the truth.

[MrSlayer]

3. I find his stance on Iran to be very disturbing.

But he can't do much about it as he has no influence in the Congress.

[senseandsensibility]

22. More disturbing than his HOUSE?

:sarcasm: If true, this stance on Iran is what we should be screaming about.

[ClassWarrior]

4. Link? Or just a random smear?

NGU.

[PeaceProgProsp]

5. Did you dream this last night, or did something actually happen

to make you believe this.

If you provide quotes and links, I'm sure someone would be willing to help you understand it.

[Clark2008]

24. The links were provided above.

Also - it's been on DU for days - much longer than the stupid house threads.

[tritsofme]

7. Yes because the situation in Iran is not a problem

That a future president will have to deal with.

I'm not a really big fan of Edwards, but I can't find anything irresponsible in what he has said.

[sufrommich]

8. Bush says Iran is the devil,

therefore Iran is an angel.Simplistic thinking rules this issue.:crazy:

[ClassWarrior]

9. So "meaningful political and economic sanctions" is "*'s dirty work"...

...and we'd rather have another country with nuclear weapons instead of that?

Okay, just getting this all straight.

:eyes:

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

10. No answer?

:eyes:

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

11. Yeah, I thought not.

NGU.

[ecstatic]

12. I'm back... and to answer your question... Edwards is beating the war drum again

So yes, that is doing *'s dirty work for him. By adding his voice to the mix, he lends credibility to the fearmongers.

[ClassWarrior]

13. Since when is calling for "meaningful political and economic sanctions"...

..."beating the war drum??"

NGU.

[Buck Rabbit]

14. What does this statement have to do about sanctions?:

"As to the American people, this is a difficult question. The vast majority of people are concerned about what is going on in Iraq. This will make the American people reticent toward going for Iran. But I think the American people are smart if they are told the truth, and if they trust their president. So Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran."

With his history with the IWR followed by this statement and the rest of his speech emphasizing "ALL" options, I hear the drums pretty loudly.



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{edited for slash not backslash
note second edit, removed sentence that said he said sanctions wernet enough, he actually said UN resolution wasnt enough. my bad hope i caught that quick enough.}

[FrenchieCat]

15. What does this mean?

"So Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran."

:wtf:

[The Count]

21. See? he's not a trial lawyer, he's an educator!

:sarcasm:

[Faryn Balyncd]

18. "So Americans can be educated to come along with 'what needs to be done' with Iran." - John Edwards

If we want tough, principled leaders who won't sell us down the river and into a wider mideast war, just to score political points, perhaps we need to ditch the slick talkers and go with the REAL DEAL -----



GORE / CLARK 2008

[ecstatic]

28. Sorry to be so ignorant, Mr. Edwards... but I see the value in peace

If I had the education that Mr. Edwards had then I am sure would see that war is the best solution. :sarcasm:

[mopinko]

16. the first candidate who can discuss these issues without

buying into the msm/propoganda frame gets my money, my time and my vote. i agree with you. accepting their frames supports them. we need someone who is smart enough to just go around that.
(btw, that candidate looks to me like al gore.)

[The Count]

19. Never stopped. First time around W had his speech on his website

This only covers some of it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2934244
Glad someone comes back to what matters!
It's why I say he scares me more than Hillary does!

[BlackVelvet04]

20. I find this particularly disturbing....

"Although Edwards has criticized the war in Iraq, and has urged bringing the troops home, the former senator firmly declared that "all options must remain on the table," in regards to dealing with Iran, whose nuclear ambition "threatens the security of Israel and the entire world."

[FrenchieCat]

27. "Peace Candidate" John Edwards should meet "Hawk Candidate" John Edwards....

Cause apparently the Left hand of John Edwards is not aware of what the Right hand of John Edwards is doing.

The fact that many choose to ignore this issue and continue to make a big deal out of the house issue shows that one non issue is obscuring a larger and more important issue!

Homage to Herzliya
The Lobby wants war with Iran

"US presidential hopefuls Mitt Romney, John Edwards and John McCain, along with Newt Gingrich, were in Israel, seemingly competing to see who can be most strident in defense of the Jewish state during personal or video appearances at the conference here, just north of Tel Aviv.

"The four politicians called for ways to prevent Iran's government from acquiring nuclear weapons. While stressing the strong US-Israel ties, the presidential hopefuls all agreed that the US has to ratchet up sanctions on Iran and leave the possibility of a military attack ‘on the table'."

Romney may have won the hyperbole contest, but the big surprise was Edwards, who came in second with his declaration that preventing Iran from getting nukes is "is the greatest challenge of our generation." On the same day he ran an ad in Roll Call calling on Congress to oppose the "surge" in Iraq, he was telling the Herzliya conference that "All options are on the table to ensure that Iran will never get a nuclear weapon."

"At a time when most Democrats in the United States are calling for less military involvement abroad," notes the Jersusalem Post, "Edwards, of South Carolina, told the Seventh Annual Herzliya Conference on Monday that his country must do everything that it can to stop Iran from possessing nuclear weapons."

When John Edwards, who poses as a peace candidate, declares that we will go to war with Iran before we'll let them break Israel's nuclear monopoly in the Middle East, that should tell us something about how the power of the Lobby has distorted our foreign policy and deformed the American political process. In paying homage to Herzliya, Edwards and his fellow candidates are betraying and subverting American interests.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=10399

[Clark2008]

23. Thank you.

This issue is infinitely more important than where John Edwards lives.

:applause:

Oh - and K&R.

[Clark2008]

25. Kicking again.

Because the STUPID, INSIPID "HOUSE" arguments are once again toppling this thread when this thread is infinitely MORE IMPORTANT.

I don't want to hear other DUers complain about the mindless drivel on the news if they can't comment to this post whilst commenting endlessly to the other insipid postings.

[Clark2008]

26. Will keep kicking.

Sorry if I'm annoying, THAL.

[ecstatic]

29. LOL. thanks

Sorry for the harsh language in the OP. I was so disgusted with him last night! I am starting to think a Clark/Gore ticket is best.

[Clark2008]

30. Those are my two faves...

But, then, I'm one of those "disgusting, bigoted Southerners who certain people on DU think drives around in a pick up truck with a Confederate Flag on it" - so what do I know?

:rofl:

(P.S. I don't know anyone who has a Confederate Flag on their vehicle and I've lived in the South all my life. I also don't have a bigoted bone in my body, so those stereotypes really hurt me when people fly them out on this board).