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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:20 AM
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NYT: "This is William Kristol’s last column......"
Op-Ed Columnist
Will Obama Save Liberalism?
By WILLIAM KRISTOL
Published: January 25, 2009

All good things must come to an end. Jan. 20, 2009, marked the end of a conservative era.

Since Ronald Reagan’s election in 1980, conservatives of various sorts, and conservatisms of various stripes, have generally been in the ascendancy. And a good thing, too! Conservatives have been right more often than not — and more often than liberals — about most of the important issues of the day: about Communism and jihadism, crime and welfare, education and the family. Conservative policies have on the whole worked — insofar as any set of policies can be said to “work” in the real world. Conservatives of the Reagan-Bush-Gingrich-Bush years have a fair amount to be proud of.

They also have some regrets. They’ll have time to ponder those as liberals now take their chance to govern.

Lest conservatives be too proud, it’s worth recalling that conservatism’s rise was decisively enabled by liberalism’s weakness. That weakness was manifested by liberalism’s limp reaction to the challenge from the New Left in the 1960s, became more broadly evident during the 1970s, and culminated in the fecklessness of the Carter administration at the end of that decade.

In 1978, the Harvard political philosopher Harvey Mansfield diagnosed the malady: “From having been the aggressive doctrine of vigorous, spirited men, liberalism has become hardly more than a trembling in the presence of illiberalism. ... Who today is called a liberal for strength and confidence in defense of liberty?”

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blah, blah, blah, blah blah, (kpete)

This is William Kristol’s last column.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/26/opinion/26kristol.html?_r=1&hp
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:21 AM
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1. the 6 sweetest words I have read all day! n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:36 AM
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6. Gee, it's not a Friday. How can this be "take out the trash day"?
However it came, it's great news!

The less we hear from this divisive, bobble-headed bastard the better. Thanks Mr. PNAC. And good riddance to you, too!

Unfortunately, while he may be gone (from our view, anyway), he's probably not forgotten. I read elsewhere here that he's gonna have a once-a-month column in the Washington Post. Wonder what rock he's crawling back under and what kind of no-goodnik stuff he's going to be up to when he thinks most of us aren't watching?

We HAVE to keep track of this bastard. We HAVE to know what he's up to. Because he's tasted power. His mad master plan almost went all the way through. His team just picked a greedy, arrogant, world class idiot as its quarterback, which is why it's back on the bench now after their "star" frickin' wrecked the playing field, the practice field, the locker room, and the team's headquarters and business office. But a guy like bill kristol won't give up his grand dream of Great American Empire and Global Economic and Military Dominion. Probably has a pecker an inch-and-a-half long. Otherwise, why would he be so hung up on power, use of force, all these big guns and war toys and world dominance? Hell, all he's missing now is the black leather and metal studs and a whip or two and a pair of six-inch black leather stilettos. Maybe that's why people like him weren't adverse to torture of their enemies. Misplaced sadism brought about the curse of having to live your life as an anemic little weenie. I bet when he was a kid, he spent all his time looking for the biggest playground bully to sidle up to, and try to "activate" to cover for his own legions of shortcomings. Makes me think of pat buchanan - Mr. Tough-stuff. Hell, when he gets going, his voice rises higher than a castrati. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "The Sopranos."

BASTARD. I wish this was kristol's last column - ANYWHERE.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:52 AM
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9. KKKristol co-wrote the PNAC document
he'll be back--even though we dropped a house on him.

weenie indeed
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:00 AM
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14. He's still listed as Chairman of PNAC at their site. nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 01:55 PM
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16. Yep, I know. I've been railing against him and his lame-ass ideas for what seems like
an eternity.

Just sick to death of this asshole and the shit he's been able to push and to perpetrate on this nation - and the world.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:22 AM
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2. Good riddance.
:thumbsup:
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:25 AM
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3. Full of shit to the very end. Consistent.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"- Emerson
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:34 AM
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4. "Conservatives have been right more often than not" ... Name 3.
Just 3.


I'll wait.




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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:35 AM
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5. What good things?
:eyes:
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:44 AM
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8. Well, you have to understand
That a good thing to a republican is different than our definition. Generally, if it involves making the "lower" classes suffer while the rich benefit, it's a good thing. So, yes, in that vein, they have done "good" things.

TlalocW
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:53 AM
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10. This thing coming to an end is all good n/t
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Terry in Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:42 AM
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7. Damn hippies!
> the challenge from the New Left in the 1960s

There it is -- a major subtext in the Conservative palaver of the late 20th century, goes something like this: "all that sex, drugs and rock 'n roll ruined Amerika, and we'd better straighten up..."

Must've been something pretty potent that happened in those scant few years in the sixties to get so many "nice" people running so scared for so long.

Don't let the door hit ya, Bill!

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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:57 AM
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12. He's been stewing about us hippies since the 60's!
Hey Bill, we're still around! And we're going to outlast you!

Ha ha :hippie:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:53 AM
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11. Well, I, for one, will miss 'Ol Billy's
prediction powers. See, whatever he said would happen, the exact opposite always happened. So, you could always count on him to "predict" things. Like Palin was a perfect choice and would help McSame to a great and overpowering victory. Or that Obama would crash and burn in the primaries and McSame would then be able to beat HRC handily in the general election. Etc., etc., and on it went.

Oh, well. Something tells me he ain't gonna keep his ten-sandwiches-short-of-a-full-picnic-basket maw shut for too long.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:26 PM
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18. You're advocating the murder of William Kristol?
Hyperbole is hyperbole, I understand that, but your last sentence is far beyond the moral pale.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:02 AM
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15. If conservatives were always right, they'd still be office. Hello?????? nt
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:03 PM
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17. Good riddance. n/t
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