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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:27 PM
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Show of hands .... who still opposes prosecuting the motherfuckers?
Whether for pure political expedience or some other reason, if you oppose prosecuting these criminals who we just swept out of DC, state your name and reason.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:31 PM
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1. Who are you to demand that of people?
People have a right to their opinions and to their privacy. If they wish to make their views known they can do so. I support an investigation and charges where warranted. I don't support some kind of witch hunt here at DU for members who may or may not agree with me and neither should you.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:36 PM
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9. Oh Jesus Fucking Christ!
Where is the demand? He has just as much right to ask the question as you do to refuse to answer.

GAWD I am so fucking tired of outrage over nothing!!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:43 PM
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16. Just what I thought .......
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:05 PM
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25. Why did you change your name?
I LIKE Husb2sparkly
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:22 PM
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30. I had it dry cleaned and thet did some sort of chemical burn on it
I needed the new suit.

:)
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:44 PM
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17. Well just don't answer the question or click on the thread!
Good god.

You're not under oath.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:23 PM
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31. pretty touchy, aren't you?
no one compelled you to share your views.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:31 PM
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2. Not I, most certainly.
I just wanted a good seat.

:popcorn:
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:32 PM
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3. luvspeas opposes....
Because that moron Pelosi should have done it while they were all fiddling while Rome burned to the ground. Doing it now will create a three-ring circus and waste all sorts of time and energy we need to un-do the mess they caused in the first place. I know I might not be right or popular saying this-hell even I feel bad saying this, but I think it's true.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:36 PM
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11. You're not alone in being frustrated at Pelosi.
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 08:36 PM by Jackpine Radical
However, I think the criminal investigations belong to the Justice Department, and the old DOJ was complicit in the crimes. This is a job for Holder, and it should proceed in workmanlike, low-key fashion, culminating in grand juries, indictments, and trials. Those proceedings are not and never were the business of Congress, so in that sense, Pelosi is irrelevant to the whole thing.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:38 PM
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13. Exactly
This requires no action on the part of Obama or Pelosi or anyone. Low key is key. I think people threw Congress and this other stuff about how complicated and time consuming it is, and how we need to take care of other business first, just to smoke screen. Then others got all paranoid.
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:47 PM
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18. luvspeas ....I noticed your low number of post
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 08:51 PM by sweetladybug
You appear to be more angry at Pelosi than all of the illegal crap that Bush and his crime family were involved with. I think they all should go to jail and be Bubba's bitches for the rest of their lives
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:54 PM
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21. excuse me, but...
my number of posts have nothing to do with my level of anger or otherwise over anything. I find your hypothesis to be insulting and without merit. are you accusing me of being a lurking freeper?
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:33 PM
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4. Did I miss something? Who here on DU is advocating such a thing?
:shrug:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:34 PM
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5. The Village opposes investigations
AND whatever they may lead to.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:34 PM
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6. I am sitting on my hands
Round them up and let the world court have a shot at them while we clean up the mess they left behind.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:35 PM
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7. If we don't prosecute the offenders...
We are doomed to more offenders down the road... emboldened and empowered offenders, who grew strong and cocky watching the Chimperor get away with murder of innocents and embezzlement of our treasury.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:35 PM
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8. hands in pockets n/t
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:36 PM
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10. Oh, fuck no! I won't lift my hand to that.
Prosecute the war criminals! To the Hague!!! Hell, I'd settle for the guillotine.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:37 PM
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12. Hello, Stinky.
Welcome to DU. :evilgrin:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:42 PM
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15. ......
:spray:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:38 PM
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14. I'd be surprised if cowards willing to let criminals walk reply to your bait.
Also, fuck them for being cowards who are willing to let criminals walk.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. so you think it's all or nothing, now or never..
black and white, or fuck you, you coward?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 08:50 PM
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19.  I am certain that any
.. prosecution initiated immediately would be limited in scope, and that a lot of evidence or testimony would be considered classified. I'm not into appointing a special prosecutor being appointed to look into torture, and having the end result be a couple of bad apples taking the fall, and that's the end of that. I would prefer lots of whistle-blowers coming out, hearing their stories, and seeing where it goes. I want a much broader picture of all the laws that have been broken, and I'd like to hear about them from the people who are in a position to talk straight. More than anything, I want to know the truth. I think the world should prosecute the Bush Administration for War Crimes.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:02 PM
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22. How is that not allowed for in the OP?
Or is this another outrage for outrage's sake kinda thing?
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:03 PM
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23. Not me not ever
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:04 PM
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24. Outrage? Is my opinion outrageous?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:15 PM
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27. Not if you stop to think that a prosecution could take years
You seem to be compressing it into a giant leap from "Gee, I think they broke the law" to "We go to trial next week."

That's not how it works.

So you see, your concern was allowed for - embraced - in the OP ..... yet you show outrage. Hence my original reply to you.

See?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:19 PM
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29. It looks like you were just calling out DUers who may disagree with you on this
. . . stillcool offered an opinion on the subject. I confused about where you see outrage in that response :shrug:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:29 PM
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34. I don't get where I showed 'outrage'
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:14 PM
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26. problem is
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 09:15 PM by bigtree
When we do find out what these folks actually did, we'll more than likely find they broke existing laws. Heck, we can round up a few now if someone would call a grand jury together. If we don't prosecute, using a special prosecutor or whatever, then it makes no sense to just look and see what they got away with. What will they do then, make more laws that can be ignored with the same impunity?

You can only do this with the WH and the majority. We always squander that moment.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:58 PM
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36. Yeah..I understand that.....
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 10:00 PM by stillcool
but I don't think we have to wait very long. If, within the next couple of months, nothing else is revealed then there is no choice. But..if one thing after another comes down the pike, I think it will build to a crescendo and it won't even be a choice any longer.
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nickw Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:17 PM
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28. what about next time?
If we don't take these crimes seriously, we're asking future presidents to do all this again.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:24 PM
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32. This guy does!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:25 PM
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33. Who ever did, purity-monger?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:33 PM
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35. GAWD I love irony.
I get all tingly an' shit.
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