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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:18 PM
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A lot of conservatives I know really like Pink Floyd
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 09:20 PM by Roon
roger waters parents were communists.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:19 PM
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1. Ooooops
tried to do a spell check and ended up posting....oh well, what do you all think of that?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:20 PM
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2. The band or the guy on Andy Griffith?
NGU.


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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:21 PM
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3. They had that on one of their bootlegs
Floyd with a pink face! lol
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:23 PM
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6. I think I first saw it on a rock station billboard.
B-)

NGU.


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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:26 PM
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11. Now that I think about it
A classic rock station did the same thing in these parts.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:22 PM
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4. they don't see any irony in "welcome to the machine"
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:24 PM
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7. No they don't
They just groove on the music. It's weird, haven't they read the lyrics?
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:35 PM
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19. Few people read the lyrics.
In this day in age, or any other. That takes thinking, a genuinely difficult task.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:23 PM
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5. A lot of conservatives from the 60's were probably liberal.
They just went conservative in their older years. Idiots.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:25 PM
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9. That makes sense
:thumbsup:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:51 PM
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22. A lotta acid going around at those Floyd concerts in the '60s and '70s.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:55 PM
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23. Oooooh!!
No doubt. Like the dead shows in the 80's! Plenty around, I would have loved to have done that and seen floyd.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:30 PM
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39. You're probably right. Some conservatives have my Pink Floyd
1994 tour DVD. They used to be liberals and now are starting to have reservations about having left. They borrowed my DVD to watch on their big screen TV. Maybe the DVD is turning them back.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:44 AM
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61. Actually as my folkes tells me.....
...a lot of people just went through the 60's to get laid and get high.


Remember, Nixon was reelected at a time when 18 year olds were voting in their first election. There was every reason to expect a change of admin. But the fact is there are a lot of people who had "Two 50's and went straight on into the 70's"

A lot of non-political people just didn't have any effect on politics and still retained a like for some of the culture.

Ya' know these are the people that Frank Zappa wrote about.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:24 PM
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8. my wife's parents are Communists
card carrying members of the party...

I don't think the party affiliation of one's parents is always that important.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:28 PM
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13. What?
People are going to mistake you for a conservative?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:33 PM
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17. I get mistaken for one all the time
I'm a clean cut white male in a conservative profession.

But, I meant that just because one has parents that are communist does not necessarily make the child one as well. History is full of children that differed from their parents.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:35 PM
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20. No doubt
Great post! :thumbsup:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:26 PM
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10. They can't have paid attention to the lyrics on "The Final Cut"
eg:

Get your filthy hands off my desert

Brezhnev took Afghanistan
begin took Beirut
Galtieri took the union jack
and Maggie over lunch one day
took a cruiser with all hands
apparently to make him give it back


The Fletcher memorial home

Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere
and build them a home a little place of their own
the Fletcher memorial
home for incurable tyrants and kings

And they can appear to themselves every day
on closed circuit T.V.
To make sure they're still real
It's the only connection they feel
"ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Reagan and Haig
Mr. begin and friends Mrs. Thatcher and paisley
Mr. Brezhnev and party
the ghost of McCarthy
the memories of Nixon
and now adding colour a group of anonymous Latin-
American meat packing glitterati"
...

http://www.pinkfloydonline.com/lyrics/tfc.html
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:00 PM
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29. Oh man. The Final Cut
and Roger Waters' solo album Amused To Death are both scathingly anti-war (at least, that's how I interpret it). :shrug: So, naturally, I think they're brilliant. :evilgrin:

Waters himself is no fan of Bush, though, that's for sure.

"Are these the people that we should bomb?
Are we so sure they mean us harm?
Is this our pleasure, punishment or crime?
Is this a mountain that we really want to climb?
The road is hard, hard and long
Put down that two by four
This man would never turn you from his door
Oh George! Oh George!
That Texas education must have fucked you up when you were very small"

http://www.roger-waters.com/lyricsbeirut.html

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:27 PM
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12. The Pink Floyd hate republicans
Syd told me so. :D :smoke:



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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:31 PM
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16. Ima dolly rocker
eom
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:17 PM
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36. Shine on you crazy diamond.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:29 PM
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14. A lot of them like Christ, and he was quite the moonbat. n/t
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:31 PM
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15. Hey you, Whitehouse,
Ha ha charade you are.
You house proud town mouse,
Ha ha charade you are
You're trying to keep our feelings off the street.
You're nearly a real treat,
All tight lips and cold feet
And do you feel abused?
.....! .....! .....! .....!
You gotta stem the evil tide,
And keep it all on the inside.
Mary you're nearly a treat,
Mary you're nearly a treat
But you're really a cry.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:22 PM
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46. That's about Mary Whitehouse
Britain's self-appointed censor of the airwaves beginning in the '60s.

Monty Python also mocked her in the first bit in Episode 32, "Tory Housewives' Clean-Up Campaign."

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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:30 AM
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63. Ah, jeez
:blush:

And, I was a huge fan way back in high school.

Thanks for the learnin.'

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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:44 PM
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64. Un-blush thyself
I thought the same thing when it came out until somebody learned me. :hi:

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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:34 PM
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18. Heck, I like Amboy Dukes
One of the best guitar riffs in rock!
Okay I'm old, so shoot me!
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:37 PM
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21. I'm sure his music is wonderful!
n/t
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:59 PM
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53. I kinda dug "journey to the center of the mind" too...
But Ted Nugent was the lead for the Amboy Dukes..
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:04 AM
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58. That was my point.
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 01:07 AM by ben_meyers
He also did the rippin guitar riff.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:56 PM
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24. This has been true for decades. Pink Floyd is "safe" music.
I never quite understood the frat-boy attraction to PF.

Kinda like "Hey, I'm cool and I like hippie chicks".

I guess that is one of the reasons I never cared for post-Syd Floyd.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:56 PM
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25. Then they're clueless
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 10:13 PM by MN ChimpH8R
:rofl: :wtf:

Roger Waters is about as hard left as anyone can be w/o actually being a Marxist.

Exhibit A

Each Small Candle

Not the torturer will scare me
Nor the body's final fall
Nor the barrels of death's rifles
Nor the shadows on the wall
Nor the night when to the ground
The last dim star of pain, is held
But the blind indifference
Of a merciless unfeeling world

Lying in the burnt out shell
Of some Albanian farm
An old babushka
Holds a crying baby in her arms
A soldier from the other side
A man of heart and pride
Breaks ranks, lays down his rifle
And kneels by her side

He binds her wounds
He gives her food
And calms the crying child
She gives him absolution then
Across the great divide
He picks his way back through the broken
China of her life
And there at the kerb
The samaritan Serb turns..
Turns and waves.. goodbye

And each small candle
Lights a corner of the dark...
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:00 PM
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28. I know!!
It drives me nuts!!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:58 PM
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26. The best concert I ever went to was Pink Floyd.
It was in Carter Finley Stadium in Raleigh in a steady rain. I was on the 4th row. It blew me away.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:59 PM
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27. What tour?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:01 PM
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30. I'll have to research it.
Early 90's.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:06 PM
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32. It was the 1988 tour (Momentary Lapse of Reason World Tour)
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 10:11 PM by mmonk
May 4th, 1988.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:24 PM
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48. I have that video
Taped somewhere on Long Island.

Truly outstanding concert. :thumbsup:

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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:05 PM
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31. Most people don't listen to Roger Water's lyrics...
which is too bad because he is in my opinion the greatest songwriter of all time. If the Republicans really listened to what he was saying you know they would hate him.

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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:20 PM
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37. I agree
He's a freakin' genius...definitely in my top three, along with Bob Dylan and Pete Townshend. :) Love his work.
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scrinmaster Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:10 PM
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33. A lot of people period like Pink Floyd.
Why shouldn't conservatives?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:16 PM
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34. basically, if you're conservative, you have to listen to liberal musicians
because conservative "rock" sucks ass.

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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:24 PM
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47. Basically, if you have any taste in art of any sort whatsoever, you have to
enjoy art produced by liberal artists, because conservativism and art are fundamental opposites.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:17 PM
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35. I had thier first vinyl album.
Released August 7th , 1967. The Piper at the Gate of Dawn, Pow R Toc, Excellent! Sorry just vinyl then.(Giving away my age here.)
Also Re-Pubic-Rats, that like the Grateful Dead, just kill me. The Deads lyrics are obvious. It's hard to understand how dense Re-Pubic-Rats can really be.

Bill Gates is an avowed Atheist. Maybe wing nut theocratic Re-Pubic-Rats should stop using that evil computer.:dem:
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:20 PM
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38. Dogs, Pigs, Sheep....
Of course conservatives are too stupid to get any of it.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:34 PM
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40. the song Dogs is basically a tutorial on how to be a Conservative

You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.


And after a while, you can work on points for style
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake
A certain look in the eye, and an easy smile
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to
So that when they turn their backs on you
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder
You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older
And in the end you'll pack up, fly down south
Hide your head in the sand
Just another sad old man
All alone and dying of cancer.



And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone

And it's too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone
Dragged down by the stone.



I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused
Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise
If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this maze?

Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyone's expendable and no-one has a real friend
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And everythings done under the sun
And you believe at heart, everyone's a killer.


Who was born in a house full of pain
Who was trained not to spit in the fan
Who was told what to do by the man
Who was broken by trained personnel
Who was fitted with collar and chain
Who was given a pat on the back
Who was breaking away from the pack
Who was only a stranger at home
Who was ground down in the end
Who was found dead on the phone
Who was dragged down by the stone.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:28 PM
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50. This sums up neocons quite nicely:
What do you get for pretending the danger's not real?
Meek and obedient, you follow the leader down well-trodden corridors
into the valley of steel


And this is what will happen to the Wregime:

Bleating and babbling, we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity
into a dream


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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:36 PM
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52. Sheep, IMO, is the best on the album, and one of Pink Floyd's best
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:17 AM
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60. An ode to the ever increasing surveillance into our lives:
"Run Like Hell"

Run run run run run run run run Run,
You better make your face up in Your favourite disguise
With your button down lips and your Roller blind eyes
With your empty smile
And your hungry heart
Feel the bile rising from your guilty past
With your nerves in tatters when the cockleshell shatters
And the hammers batter down the door
You'd better run!
Run run run run run run run run
Run, YEAH!
You better run all day and run all night
And keep your dirty feelings deep inside
And if you're taking your Girlfriend out tonight
You'd better park the car well out of sight
Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to mother in a cardboard box
You better run!
Run run run run run run run run
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:36 PM
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41. Splash damage from "Classic Rock" adulation.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:56 PM
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42. The Wall was a criticism of authority and empty fame
Both concepts adored by the right.

The best concert I ever went to was in '94 - The Division Bell Tour in Toronto.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:03 PM
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43. "Are there any queers in the theater tonight?"

"Get them up against the wall!"

Perhaps they took that too literally? :shrug:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:14 PM
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45. It seems to me
that that part of the song pretty much sums up the conservative platform (at least, the more extreme wing of it).

"Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall.
There's one in the spotlight, now he don't look right to me
Get him up against the wall.
And that one looks Jewish, and that one's a coon
Who let all this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smokin' a joint, and another with spots
If I had my way...I'd have all of you shot!"

Yep, sounds pretty accurate to me...? :shrug:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:26 PM
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49. yeah, I always thought they missed the sneering sarcasim in the second In The Flesh
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:07 PM
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44. "Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb?"
"Oooooooh, babe, uhhhh, yeah, with tricky uncle Dick at the healm, yeah, most definitely they'll drop the bomb."
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:28 PM
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51. The Did Too Much LSD
They dropped too much LSD while listening to "Dark Side", then had brain damage and became conservatives. :hippie:
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:01 AM
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54. On the turning away
On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we wont understand
Dont accept that whats happening
Is just a case of others suffering
Or youll find that youre joining in
The turning away

Its a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that were all alone
In the dream of the proud

On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerized as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night

No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
Its not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that therell be
No more turning away?
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:05 AM
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55. The dogs of war
Dogs of war and men of hate
With no cause, we don't discriminate
Discovery is to be disowned
Our currency is flesh and bone
Hell opened up and put on sale
Gather 'round and haggle
For hard cash, we will lie and deceive
Even our masters don't know the webs we weave

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world

Invisible transfers, long distance calls,
Hollow laughter in marble halls
Steps have been taken, a silent uproar
Has unleashed the dogs of war
You can't stop what has begun
Signed, sealed, they deliver oblivion
We all have a dark side, to say the least
And dealing in death is the nature of the beast

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world

The dogs of war don't negotiate
The dogs of war won't capitulate,
They will take and you will give,
And you must die so that they may live
You can knock at any door,
But wherever you go, you know they've been there before
Well winners can lose and things can get strained
But whatever you change, you know the dogs remain.

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:07 AM
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56. Politics and musical tastes are not necessarily related
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 12:08 AM by Katzenkavalier
I personally listen to anything that is pleasing to my ear, even if the message doesn't match my core beliefs.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:03 AM
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57. They obviously never listened to the lyrics then- Roger Waters resoundingly blasted Bush
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 01:03 AM by JCMach1
in a concert a few months back here in the UAE!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:09 AM
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59. Then they are as dense as the nearest black hole.
Just have them listen to "The Wall".
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:43 AM
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62. I'm an American liberal/socialist who truly enjoys Richard Wagner. . .
with eyes and mind wide-open, too -- no illusions. Strange world we inhabit, doncha know? Few people can be successfully pigeonholed.
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