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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:12 PM
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Poll question: Do you accept the view that all politicians sometimes Lie?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:13 PM
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1. Clearly Obama has betrayed us.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:33 PM
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13. Speak for yourself, he hasn't betrayed me....n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:39 PM
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24. Heh indeedy.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:52 PM
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16. On FISA, DC gun ban, embargo on Cuba, and Off-shore drilling he sure has. nt
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:53 PM
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18. Off-shore drilling was approved by Congress...
How was that his fault? And other things, how do we know what he will do once he has power to make the choices?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:56 PM
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19. He changed his mind and came out and supported it after saying he didn't. nt
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:59 PM
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21. During the election he voted for it when it became politically opportune for him
Nothing new there, and again, he shares the burden of doing so with all 538 members of Congress (not to mention Bush)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:14 PM
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2. SOMETIMES!?!?!?!?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:15 PM
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3. I think lying is a human trait
We don't like to admit it, but we all lie about something for a variety of reasons. :shrug:
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:16 PM
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4. I would say some politicians occasionally tell the truth (n/t)
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:19 PM
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8. I should have had your answer listed as well
I think it is very sad that a majority of Americans just accept the fact that their elected officials are not truthful, and it really doesn't matter what political Party they belong to.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:17 PM
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5. You're obviously setting up a point, and I suspect it's going to be something
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 07:17 PM by Marr
with a nuanced answer. These sorts of black/white preconditions are usually preludes to something like that.

So what's the actual question?
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:27 PM
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11. No not really
I guess what I really should have asked is do you think politicians are more deceitful that the average person and if so do you think it is the person or the job, or is it just part and parcel? Do you believe the profession attracts that sort of person or does it create that sort of person?
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:57 PM
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20. Then I apologize.
I was too suspicious.

Personally, I don't think political office necessarily *attracts* more deceitful people, but I do think that people who manage to navigate our electoral/funding process (let alone make a career of politics) tend to be more deceitful, yes.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:17 PM
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6. It's not just politicians. It's everybody.
Human beings lie, to everyone, especially themselves.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:18 PM
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7. I doubt all do. I believe most is an accurate term.
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katmandu2007 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:20 PM
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9. Of course
Its the classic definition of politician!
However, I still have confidence in Pres Obama and a few congressmen and women to try to do well by
America.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:24 PM
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10. Other, I don't believe that Dennis Kucinich lies at all, but otherwise
I believe all other politicians lie at one time or the other.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:29 PM
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12. He was the first person I thought of when I said probably not all lie.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:39 PM
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14. They all lie or at least deliberately mislead people
and slant the truth as well as exaggerate the truth. It's the nature of the business. I don't vote based on what a politicians says. My vote is based on the politicians previous actions as an elected official and whether or not I think they are more likely to affect public policy that will benefit myself, family and my community.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:51 PM
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15. Absolutely. They ALL lie. FDR lied-a LOT. JFK lied. Nixon. Obama. nt
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:52 PM
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17. I don't disagree that most politicians lie
But how many knowingly lie is the more important question. To be ill-informed is one thing, to deliberately lie to persuade the public is entirely another.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:03 PM
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22. Other: you can't please all of the people all of the time
'Lying' in a political context can range from outright falsehood to over-optimistic expectations. To some extent, it's in the eye of the beholder.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:08 PM
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23. Politician + Lie = Water + Wet
Honest + Politician = Ex + Politician

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