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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:28 AM
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Poll question: The greatest threat to the United States is:
We face many threats, some are greater than others. In my mind the greatest threat we face is:

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:29 AM
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1. Money runs the rest.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:30 AM
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2. Our ongoing refusal to fully adopt and embrace the Metric System
:nuke:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:32 AM
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5. The religious right will be the religious right no matter if there is $ involved or not
crazy people do not react to pennys.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:18 AM
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24. HA!
the US embracing the metric system is a pipe dream.

we're waaaaaayyyy to stubborn, and set in old and nonsensical ways.

nice answer though. !!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:31 AM
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3. Very good choices on the list. A mixed brew of most of them
would be a good answer.

I'd throw in the complacency of our citizenry, as opposed to the informed and enlightened citizenry envisioned by Madison and Jefferson.

More Lincolns and fewer Nixons would be a useful starting point for high-profile public officials. What Barack Obama did after college in Chicago would be another model for less-high-profile folks.

I think we get to an informed citizenry faster by asking more of our school students than we currently do.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:33 AM
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7. I thought of that one but couldn't find a good way to say in a couple of words
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:37 AM
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10. Hi, ThomWV. I wonder if that is why we as progressives are so
instantaneously annoyed by people like Lieberman and Evan Bayh and Ben Nelson, etc. -- because we see our citizenship in more urgent terms and are long-dedicated to the common improvement for all, and their actions so often reinforce the push against us.

And it may also be why we are quick and true in championing those who represent that common purpose. When Ted Kennedy, for example, blasts the Bush administration on health care and minimum wage on the floor of the Senate, we progressives collectively nod our heads around the village fire.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:10 AM
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19. That is a mighty good way to put it
Your choice of words is singularly beautiful and hopefully widely appreciated.

I like to go back to basics in my thought process. If I can find the first and then hold it in my mind it often adds clarity to what follows. So I ask myself what is Government and where does it get legitimacy and power? Once I have the answer I hold it up to everything else to see if muster is met.

The first answer I've come up with is that Government is simply people come together for common purpose. I hold that in my mind when I see the right rail against it. Which do they despise, common purpose or people coming together? The answer to the second comes from the first. The only power Government can have is that which we give it and as such we are master and it is slave - not the other way around.

Those two questions and answers are the sieve all of my political opinion have to pass.
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:31 AM
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4. besides "other" and "moo", aren't they all the same? nt
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:32 AM
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6. Without doubt
its own citizens.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:35 AM
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8. Spineless DLC fake Democrats enabling all of the above
We expect Repukes to enable that shit, but things only got really bad when NEITHER party was opposing it.
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:35 AM
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9. The Republican Party. n/t
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:41 AM
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11. I'd say other.
In the long term, global warming might be it. I think the growth of the national debt is also going to become a very serious problem at some point. (It's a problem already, but one with a slow burning fuse.)
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:43 AM
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12. can we have an all of the above?
You've listed the big ones, and it's the way those are set up is what's killing the middle class.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:53 AM
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13. duh?
apathetic, ignorant citizens
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:55 AM
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14. The United States of America
The flag, the republic, especially what it stands for, definitely as one nation, under whatever god it is that we're living under(and not just the bible one), the lack of diversity by having to be indivisible, and with the liberty and justice for all which has never been the case from day one.

That we wish to sustain such an organized effort is the reason all those choices exist, in my mind.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:58 AM
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15. Total ignorance.
If we don't educate our children better than our average adults were educated, there is just no hope of fixing anything else.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:01 AM
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16. You didn't list it
Private mercenary armies is the correct answer by the way.

They would kill any of us for money without blinking an eye.

Don
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ShadesOfGrey Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:02 AM
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17. Other: Corporate Influence on Government

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:09 AM
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18. Amen to that! nt
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:11 AM
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20. yes
but that also goes under numero uno.//.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:17 AM
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23. True statement, but just so you know,
TJ didn't say that. I used to use it myself and was somewhat distressed to find this out. It reflects his thinking and is true, but it is not an accurate quote.


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ShadesOfGrey Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:26 AM
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Oops! I'll have to update my quote document then.
Do you know who to attribute it to?

:blush:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:59 PM
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30. Can't find it now, but if IIRC I read a reference to a magazine article from the 1930s. n/t
It does accurately reflect his distrust and extensive knowledge of the European banking families and there are many documented quotes on this issue from him warning of the disaster they would wreak if allowed to operate here.
:kick:


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:14 PM
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35. That's called Fascism. BushInc calls it New World Order.
.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:12 AM
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21. 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are the same thing. 5 heads of the same bloated tick. n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:15 AM
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22. Other. Finite energy resources and oil depletion.
Whether you want to believe it or not, the Exponential Function WILL be applied to the Law of Thermodynamics.

In other words, there will come a day, rather soon, when there is no longer enough petroleum resources to power growth.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:29 PM
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36. That and global warming
together are by far the biggest threat, IMO.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:18 AM
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25. Other: Apathetic citizenry
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:26 AM
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26. I said "other" also because "all of the above" wasn't available
I think we're under threat from all of them, only in varying and fluid degrees at any particular moment.
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:27 AM
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27. other
the biggest threat to the USA is the "Us vs Them" mentality that permeated just about every aspect of our society.
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:28 AM
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28. Moo
Using the newtonian paradigm of the universe to contruct conceptual models of reality rather than using the paradigms of chaotic systems and quantum mechanics.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:39 PM
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37. If you weight 160 pounds and never go faster than 100 mph Newton fits just right
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 03:39 PM by ThomWV
My own personal life does not require quantum mechanics, I'm far too large and slow for it. Newton is good enough for me.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:30 AM
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29. The M IC
They are the reason for all these wars. They employ many, too, and those Americans are going to go along. They seem to have been successful in convincing America that their "product" is needed.

That's one set of jobs nobody mentions - haven't heard of them being outsourced yet, either. One thing we do manufacture is military hardware - that gives us an interest in stirring up wars.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:04 PM
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31. The MIC is controls both the Religious Right and the Corporate fascists.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:06 PM
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32. All seven of the deadly sins.....n/t
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:07 PM
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33. other- ignorant and uneducated citizens
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:07 PM
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34. dupe
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 03:08 PM by Incitatus
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