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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 11:59 PM
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We may never cross paths but
we can show a little bit of hometown. With all the turmoil of the last few weeks maybe showing where we come from will ease some of the divisiveness. Two shot minimum to keep from killing computers. Mods, while it looks like a photo thread I felt GD would get more hits, thus give more people a chance at showing their hometown America.


Now


Then
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:12 AM
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1. Your pictures are just outstanding! Truly beautiful...
Thank you for this idea...

Here's a couple from my town...

The Manhattan Beach Pier:



A view of the San Gabriel Mtns. and downtown Los Angeles:

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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:17 AM
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2. Thanks Peggy!
Your uploads didn't work, I've been having problems with photobucket all night.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:04 PM
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50. Sorry you can't see them...
I hope you can fix your problems with PB and then have a look...

These are a couple of my best, I believe...

:hi:
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:38 AM
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20. That first shot is beautiful
The way you aligned the center of the structure with the "god rays" ... Really nice.


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:05 PM
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52. Thank you, my dear Artiechoke!
I hoped it would turn out...Had to hold the camera very still and hope...

I got lucky!

:hi:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:36 AM
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28. Your Pic of Manhattan Beach Pier. . .
. . .reminds me a LOT of Belmont Pier in Long Beach. There's a great restaurant/brew pub (Belmont Brewing Company) right there by the pier and just north of the olympic swimming pool there.

Your picture brought back some fond memorites.

Thanks Peggy.
GAC
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:07 PM
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53. Thank you, my dear ProfessorGAC!
I am glad to be the provider of good memories!

:hi:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:23 PM
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45. My daughter's wedding was in Manhattan Beach.
It was beautiful.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:08 PM
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54. My dear Blue!
How very cool...this is a pretty little town...

:hi:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:26 AM
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3. Nice pics
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 12:27 AM by Horse with no Name
FIELDS OF FLOWERS
THE RED RIVER
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:27 AM
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4. Apparently you can't link to facebook photos?
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 12:28 AM by soleft
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:33 AM
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6. I normally use
photobucket but it's down. It seems that FlickR is the only one working.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:32 AM
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5. Main Street, Old Ellicott City (MD)


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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:35 AM
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8. nice shots
I really like the second one. The way the image seems to curve around works well.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 03:02 AM
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23. Stinky the Clown lives in Ellicott City!?
I was just there this summer. Did the ghost tour the summer before.

Love the big rocks and the pizza place (can't remember the name.)

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:32 PM
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60. He does, indeed ..... he an' da missus.
The Old City is very cool.

Pizza place ..... not sure which one you mean. Actually, the best pizza in town is at our house! :)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:44 PM
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62. Don't remember the name, it may not specifically be a pizza place. It's on the main street on the
left as you head up the hill.


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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:43 AM
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65. Look at the top picture ......
.... about in the middle .... there's a two story brick building with three store fronts in it. The right-most store front (as you view the picture) has two American flags and a dark green/sagey sort of awning thingus on it. That is a restaurant. Actually, that has been a whole series of restaurants. Each of them was pretty good. NONE of them lasted. I have no idea why.

Well ...... no normal reason why .......

Ellicott City has suffered a series of floods and fires over the years. On the downhill side of that picture is a tall, whitish stone bank building (until last year, still an active bank). On the uphill side is a light brick building with gray trim. Between the two is the place I think you ate; it is part of a run of (relatively) new construction lower height brick buildings. They're new because the originals burned to the ground in 1984. The fire started ...... in the building where that restaurant was ...... in the fryer ..... of an old restaurant! You mentioned a ghost tour. Yeah, they still do it. I don't know why that place isn't on the tour. It is said to be haunted. Or at least cursed.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/movies/bal-ellicottjan06,0,7808412.htmlstory

Here's a picture of the 84 fire. The spot where the restaurant is now is the rightmost of the two white clapboard buildings with the flames coming out of the roof. The light brick building I mentioned, above, is on the right of this picture and it was relatively unscathed by the fire. The fire started in the back of the rightmost burning building, ran along the backs of the row of buildings, destroyed the downhill brick buildings, and **then** ran back uphill and destroyed the building in which it started! Think about that. NO fire does that ...... does it? :)

I'm glad you enjoyed the pizza! :scared:



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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:27 AM
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66. That's it, I'm sure. They were closed for the day last summer so I didn't get to eat there.
I've heard much about the floods from over the years and I think they mentioned the fire during the tour. I remember one building, a granite/marble thing on the south side of the street that apparently had been a mortuary ?? because it had some morbid stonework on it. (If I'm remembering right.)

I will probably be in Baltimore the weekend before the inauguration, but I'll be pretty busy. I'm sure I'll be in Baltimore for a good time this summer visiting my friends who live in Catonsville and Fells Point. They're the ones who first took me for breakfast in Ellicott City (at that place down by the river as you enter town.)

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:41 AM
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67. That would be Phoenix Emporium
We're having out of town company for the inauguration. They like visit the Old City, too.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:51 AM
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24. Best antique shops anywhere.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:34 AM
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7. Michael is a great photographer...
in the mold of the great Ansel Adams.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:37 AM
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9. awwwww heck no!
I do use a camera just like his though :) Takes about 30 minutes to get one shot off. I have one of those old 4x5 speed graphics like the press used to use, I've always wondered how they got the sports shots they got back then.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:50 AM
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11. Maybe that is why I see the similarities?
:-) But your photos are truly great to look at.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:54 AM
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13. Thank you very much
I've been lucky mostly. I still look for that "perfect" street shot or that "wow" sports shot.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:16 AM
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15. You're quite welcome.
Sometimes I think being "lucky" is just being in the right spot at the very right moment. :-)
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:41 AM
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21. Nice work, Michael
I want your Speed Graphic!

:toast:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:42 AM
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10. Do you sell signed prints of your photos?
If you do, I would love to buy the first one - 8.5 x 11 or 13 x 19.

They both are wonderful, but that first one is incredible.

:thumbsup:

:hi:
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:51 AM
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12. Thanks ! I sometimes
sell my palouse (eastern Washington) stuff. I was commissioned to do some work for the local hospital recently and sold those. My NCAA stuff gets weird, the rules say I can sell sports photos but the schools say no. To keep it safe I don't sell those. If you want that first one I'll print it for you, I have a 13X19 roll printer. It looks like a black and white but it's really a color shot.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:00 AM
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14. I would love that print
and would be honored if you would sign it.

Please pmail me cost and how you want to handle this.

I just love that shot and I know where I want to hang it in my house. :hi:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:18 AM
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16. You are so lucky!
:-)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:21 AM
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17. I know it, that is an incredible photo
:bounce: I have just the place for it.

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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:09 PM
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42. That's a color shot??
How on earth did you get that? It's wonderful.

What kind of equipment do you use?
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:37 AM
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18. Nice idea for a thread...
<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Sorry the file is so large...I haven't learned to resize yet...

This one was shot about 25 miles from my house at a vacant farm in Barnstead NH and is titled "Sentinel of the Seasons"
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:27 AM
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19. That one is definitely suitable for framing.
Wonderful! :hi:
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:42 AM
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22. Thanks....
My original plan when I saw the proofs of my first shoot was to go back at 3 month intervals and restage each shot to reflect the change of seasons...hence the name...but life intervened and "Autumn" is the only season ever filmed. I always thought the series could have been stunning.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:57 AM
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25. Morning K&R....
C'mon guys, how about some hometown pride?
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:03 AM
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26. Chicago, Lalapalooza
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:10 AM
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27. Our old State Capitol building ...
where Lincoln served, and where I saw Obama introduce Biden.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:38 AM
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29. Been There. Seen That!
That's a cool old building!

Hey was your Lollapalooza pic from this year?

I went to the first one but it wasn't on the beach it was at Tweeter Center (or whatever it used to be called).
GAC
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:22 PM
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31. Ya, this year.
I went for Rage Against the Machine. But it was so much fun I will go every year.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:27 PM
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32. You From Chicago?
Or Chicagoland? I'm from the far southern reaches of it. Get much farther south than me and you won't get the Trib or Suntimes delivered to the hosue. But, all our TV and radio stations are from chicago, so we're not THAT far away.

About 60 miles from downtown.
GAC
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:01 PM
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30. South Shore, LI NY
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:33 PM
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33. Gorgeous...
I was raised on the North Shore of the Sound and those dunes and the drifting snow evoke so many memories of the bleak winters there. Ain't nothin' more worthy of a roll of film than an empty beach...here's one of mine:

<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Old Orchard Beach Maine"></a>

Again,thanks Anna.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:50 PM
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34. My hometown...
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 01:07 PM by notsodumbhillbilly




(I wasn't the photographer)
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MorganaSeawalker Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:11 PM
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35. Boulder Creek, California
This is from my front porch.


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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:23 PM
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36. Albuquerque...


But soon to be Durango, CO:


(These are not my photos--I wish!)
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:01 PM
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40. An Albq guy here...love Durango, and is the Strater a beautiful old Hotel or what?
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 06:02 PM by abq e streeter
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:07 PM
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41. The Strater is great...
I've never stayed there but it's one of the best landmarks in Durango. I'll be moving there in two weeks--can't wait!

Nice to meet you! :toast:
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:16 PM
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47. Welcome to Durango...bring a shovel!
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:27 PM
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37. Okay-Memphis
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 02:27 PM by itsjustme
Here is the Mississippi River from downtown Memphis


These are all the colorful paddleboats lined up at Patriot lake in Shelby Farms, our 4,000 acre urban park.





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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:55 PM
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38. Bout An Hour Ago:
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:04 PM
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51. Thank you for the picture of your two beautiful boys n/t
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:43 PM
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39. Wonderful, wonderful
shots everyone! Lets keep them coming, isn't there like 400,000 DUers? We're a few short :)
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:10 PM
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43. where I live, MI

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:21 PM
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44. Very nice, MichaelHarris
Here are two shots of my hometown, Anchorage, Alaska.

Winter


Summer
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:45 PM
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56. now
that's a beautiful hometown and wonderful shots!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:56 PM
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46. Newcastle, NSW
Horseshoe dog beach and Newcastle from Nobbys Headland.


--------

Frequent backyard visitors...

Rainbow lorikeet


---------

Pesky Galah


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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:48 PM
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57. Nice lorikeet and galah.
Here we call the latter rose-breasted cockatoos.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:19 PM
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48. morning light
Morning Light




Biloxi Back Bay
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:24 PM
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49. Michael- your new pics are downright idyllic
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 07:26 PM by depakid
especially when contrasted with your fundyville shots:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4215728

:scared:
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:44 PM
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55. awww man
I forgot about fundie hell and I'm going back next week!
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:58 PM
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58. Falls Park
Pendleton, IN

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:01 PM
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59. WV
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:40 PM
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61. Sweet Home Tampa Florida
Sunset over Tampa Bay



Sailing



Friendly pelicans



Downtown
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:45 PM
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63. the neighborhood lake we walk around
the lake in suburban Maryland



A local resident out for a walk.


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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:01 AM
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64. I found this
now see if it posts ?v=0
Jackson Heights, Queens
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:38 AM
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68. Upper Peninsula, Michigan.
The road I live on:

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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:03 PM
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69. Needs more cowbell (or lighthouses)
Not strictly my hometown,but if I've woken up at home and drove there for breakfast (which I have), then close enough...
<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Portland Head Light"></a>
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